Dream-Crushing, Soul-Devouring Juggernaut Shirts

So, it's clear we all really like the Dream-Crushing, Soul-Devouring Juggernaut aspect of the team. And we all like wearing Cornell gear. Brian Sullivan has given us the ok to run with this as a shirt design provided we give him one. The design is linked below: make comments, edit it and post your version. I plan on wearing one of these shirts at the Frozen Four, and hope to see many others in them, too.

PSP will be producing the shirts. The design has been finalized, they will be sold at the Cornell Store and online. Attached are the front and back of the shirt. Happy shopping, and I can't wait to see everyone wearing these shirts with pride in Albany and Detroit. LET'S GO RED!

Have at it: Dream-Crushing, Soul-Devouring Shirts Now Available

OMG! I LOVE THE DESIGN!! ITS ALMOST LIKE I MADE IT!!! hahah... very excited about these shirts... while i don't like giving Mr. Sullivan much credit, i suppose he deserves it just this once

I think we need some teeth/fangs on the big C of the Cornell. Unfortunately, I'm not really a graphics person so I can see it in my head but not sure if I can really put it into image form.

Awesome!!! I will get three, because I know two friends who will each want one.

I'm trying to find an evil looking cartoonish bear to add to the back, making the C a little smaller and putting the demon bear between the Cornell Hockey and the quote.

another design Munchkin and I have worked toward with a few suggestions...

Can always go with the Bear C logo... Also not wild about the "hockey" on front AND back... But, overall I love it. I will be getting one once the design is finalized.

Edit: Shouldn't we add the comma? No sense ignoring grammar. We are Ivy after all

sitting back looking at it, i don't think we need the "Cornell Hockey" on the back

I'm sincerely honored that I've been able to coin something with some staying power! So long as I get a copy of the shirt at some point, I say go nuts with the design. So long as you don't twist the words too much - and find some way of attributing USCHO, if not myself - that's all I care about. I really look forward to (hopefully) seeing some of these in Albany or, with any luck, Detroit!

This one brings in a little demon bear and removes hockey from the back.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/2010 11:10PM by munchkin.

hockeychick470
sitting back looking at it, i don't think we need the "Cornell Hockey" on the back

Might that be copyright/trademark infringement? Just a thought ... "Big Red Hockey" is not, to the best of my knowledge, a defensibly unique phrase.

hockeychick470
another design Munchkin and I have worked toward with a few suggestions...

the bear in this design is pretty sweet. what about just ditching the squiggly C and the Cornell Hockey and just blowing that bear up a little bigger

munchkin


This one brings in a little demon bear and removes hockey from the back.

Is the bear holding a dagger?

Flyers1037

munchkin


This one brings in a little demon bear and removes hockey from the back.

Is the bear holding a dagger?

Yes, the bear is holding a dagger.

I like the bear from design #2 and the "C" from #1.

Done and done. See what you think about this. The demon bear is bigger, and the C is removed entirely. I also added the comma to make it grammatically correct.
Evil Dream-Crushing, Soul Devouring Juggernaut Bear

Rita- the issue with using the bear from #2 and the "C" from #1 is that the C is too wide and there is not enough space inside it for the bear

I would like to see the first bear with the hockey stick inside a "C" sized like that picture but with the font of other design.

Regardless of which exact version you choose, I like the "C" with a bear inside.

I think I agree with Rita, but I wasn't sure if we were talking about the same ones. If that is the case, then your answer would apply to me as well. Is there a similarly-sized "C" without the wavy font that would work?

I do like the hockey bear much better.

agreed on the hockey bear

hockey bear without "C"
hockey bear with "C"

thoughts?

I like the Hockey bear w/o the C, but would will get either one.

This combines the aspects requested: the hockey bear inside a C.
Bear in a C

hockeychick470
hockey bear without "C"
hockey bear with "C"

thoughts?

What about something more along the lines of the bear leaning on the C logo (or some other location) rather than being inside the C? As is, I like it without the C but like the concept of having the C in there somewhere.

hugel

hockeychick470
hockey bear without "C"
hockey bear with "C"

thoughts?

What about something more along the lines of the bear leaning on the C logo (or some other location) rather than being inside the C? As is, I like it without the C but like the concept of having the C in there somewhere.

Are we allowed to use official Cornell logos on something that's not licensed? That's why we've been using alternatives to the Bear in the C or the bear leaning on the C

The "C" makes the bear pretty small. If it isn't going to fit well, I guess I like the bear without the "C".

If the "C" can be sized inbetween these last two examples, I think it frames the bear nicely.

if we could make a the typical bear hanging out the "C" with a hockey stick in his hand and kind of rabid looking, that'd be kind of cool, but thats outside anything i could do.... anyone good at designing?

munchkin

hugel

hockeychick470
hockey bear without "C"
hockey bear with "C"

thoughts?

What about something more along the lines of the bear leaning on the C logo (or some other location) rather than being inside the C? As is, I like it without the C but like the concept of having the C in there somewhere.

Are we allowed to use official Cornell logos on something that's not licensed? That's why we've been using alternatives to the Bear in the C or the bear leaning on the C

I meant reposition the hockey bear in the previous examples. I have no idea about using official things but I'm gonna guess no.

I also definitely think a block letter C looks the best but it just doesn't seem to be working with that hockey bear in the middle of it

cth95
The "C" makes the bear pretty small. If it isn't going to fit well, I guess I like the bear without the "C".

If the "C" can be sized inbetween these last two examples, I think it frames the bear nicely.

Definitely stick with a block C, though I haven't found something that works well in customink for that... Maybe an art version of a C that's a wider letter.

Also, did anyone see that clipart in customink of the bear face and the claw coming out at you? that would work well for a devouring bear...

OK, the quote. It's not actually the quote, which was:

"The Big Red are the dream-crushers, they play in games that end streaks and crush passion. They are the soul-devouring juggernauts of the league, because they are so systematically thorough in every aspect of the game that they will completely suck every ounce of energy out of your lineup. It's not a flaw or a criticism — it's a very, very powerful attribute, and nobody does it like Cornell."

• Do we have to have "Brian Sullivan, USCHO" on it? It's a great turn of phrase, but posterity won't care who penned it. (He's already getting a free shirt out of the deal, which is surely more than USCHO pays him.)
• Putting it in quotes when it's such a modified quote bugs my interior editor.
• Juggernauts? I would prefer the singular.

I would go with "[The/A] Dream-Crushing, Soul-Devouring Juggernaut," four lines, all centered, no quotation marks.

What's more:

• Dagger-wielding bear is infinitely better than the other bear. Isn't the point, after all, that we are the team that kills hope? How does a steroidal bear with a stick convey this? He conveys that we like ugly, 90s-style team logos.
• Putting the bear in a C gets too messy and makes the bear too small. One graphic per side, and big enough to figure out what it is.

Otherwise, I hope, hope, to have good reason to wear this in Detroit.

munchkin
Done and done. See what you think about this. The demon bear is bigger, and the C is removed entirely. I also added the comma to make it grammatically correct.
Evil Dream-Crushing, Soul Devouring Juggernaut Bear

Looks like we've moved past this one, but it's definitely my favorite. From a distance it looks like the bear is destroying Tokyo.

Is it a quote? I'm not about to make this a legal matter of course - I am, as they say, just honored to be here - but the phrase was undeniably my creation. For the record, USCHO does pay me. Not much, of course, but I am compensated for my work ... and yes, my paycheck is worth more than a t-shirt. It would cover at least two, I think.

For whatever it may ultimately be worth, I'd prefer/request some sort of attribution to the phrase, whether it be myself or USCHO. I don't care if it's in 0.2-size font that flakes off at the first sign of humidity; it's a matter of principle and it's about what's right.

munchkin

Flyers1037

munchkin


This one brings in a little demon bear and removes hockey from the back.

Is the bear holding a dagger?

Yes, the bear is holding a dagger.

Because, you know, just because we devour souls, doesn't mean we don't cut them up into bite-sized pieces first.

So this takes away the hockey stick from the bear and makes it just a bear head, but it's a bear that looks maniacal. It also incorporates some of Skersk's ideas.

And another iteration

I still like the hockey bear. It looks meaner and less Japanese cartoonish to me.

If we use a "C", I agree with flyers1037 that we should use a block "C".

cth95
I still like the hockey bear. It looks meaner and less Japanese cartoonish to me.

If we use a "C", I agree with flyers1037 that we should use a block "C".

definitely agree with all of this

This is a totally different one, graphics on the front, writing on the back. Hockey bear can be substituted, he fits in this C.

Bear on Front

I actually like having only the graphics on the back, but I would keep the original front.

He wants his attribution; he gets his attribution! (And, yeah, the big "the" is cool.)

Demon Bear! Demon Bear! Demon Bear!

cth95
I actually like having only the graphics on the back, but I would keep the original front.

I was just experimenting. Although at some point, Hockeychick470 and I might decide on a final version and present to all of you as "The One".

The one that's here uses the same front (although I changed the font to match the back font). Has the Hockey bear in a C, and uses Skersk's tweaking of the phrase. It still attributes Brian because 1) He came up with it, and 2) He's a friend and I think he should get the credit even if he is getting a shirt out of the deal.

Last one for tonight.

munchkin
Has the Hockey bear in a C, and uses Skersk's tweaking of the phrase.

Scersk, as in Scott; not Skersk, as in sketchy, however appropriate that might be.

Scersk '97

munchkin
Has the Hockey bear in a C, and uses Skersk's tweaking of the phrase.

Scersk, as in Scott; not Skersk, as in sketchy, however appropriate that might be.

Apologies, and I know it's Scott, I was sitting next to you last night in the bar for a while.

munchkin

cth95
I actually like having only the graphics on the back, but I would keep the original front.

I was just experimenting. Although at some point, Hockeychick470 and I might decide on a final version and present to all of you as "The One".

The one that's here uses the same front (although I changed the font to match the back font). Has the Hockey bear in a C, and uses Skersk's tweaking of the phrase. It still attributes Brian because 1) He came up with it, and 2) He's a friend and I think he should get the credit even if he is getting a shirt out of the deal.

Last one for tonight.

That looks cool. I'd buy it.

By the way, thanks for putting your time and effort into this.

munchkin

Scersk '97

munchkin
Has the Hockey bear in a C, and uses Skersk's tweaking of the phrase.

Scersk, as in Scott; not Skersk, as in sketchy, however appropriate that might be.

Apologies, and I know it's Scott, I was sitting next to you last night in the bar for a while.

And you know I know you know! It was nice meeting you.

Pretty good design. Critiques: The front side looks like a generic tshirt you can pick up at the Cornell store or Bear Necessities in Collegetown. The bear on the back really looks more like a tiger. I know it's hard to find good graphics, but keep trying!

just so everyone knows, we think we're more or less going to go with the last shirt, although we're going to talk to the people were they're gonna be printed and see if they can distort one a "C" in a font more similar to the rest of the shirt to accommodate the bear in the middle of it

imafrshmn
Pretty good design. Critiques: The front side looks like a generic tshirt you can pick up at the Cornell store or Bear Necessities in Collegetown. The bear on the back really looks more like a tiger. I know it's hard to find good graphics, but keep trying!

I'm working on a ferocious bear design via photoshop right now. It's based off a real bear picture but I'm merely using it as a model so we don't have to worry about copyright. I'll upload it as soon as I'm done.

imafrshmn
Pretty good design. Critiques: The front side looks like a generic tshirt you can pick up at the Cornell store or Bear Necessities in Collegetown. The bear on the back really looks more like a tiger. I know it's hard to find good graphics, but keep trying!

That's why I'd had the Demon Bear in there before, even though he doesn't hold a hockey stick, he's clearly a bear and is soul-devouring. There are hockey playing bear graphics out there, but the bears look too sweet and cuddly.

ajh258

imafrshmn
Pretty good design. Critiques: The front side looks like a generic tshirt you can pick up at the Cornell store or Bear Necessities in Collegetown. The bear on the back really looks more like a tiger. I know it's hard to find good graphics, but keep trying!

I'm working on a ferocious bear design via photoshop right now. It's based off a real bear picture but I'm merely using it as a model so we don't have to worry about copyright. I'll upload it as soon as I'm done.

YOU ARE AWESOME!

I concur.

This is the bear i'm working off of. This might take a while because I'm working with a crappy mouse on my laptop but I'll get it done.

sweet

So is this at a point where we can order it? Also the first one says we have to order 6, will the minimum order amount stay?

So we won't be ordering through CustomInk; that's just for designing. I'll be putting together the order, and I'll either use PSP and have someone in Ithaca pick up the shirts, or use a place local to me in Boston. Shirts will need to be prepaid through paypal since I can't front that much. Once we have the final design picked, I'll post more details. If someone who has a higher credit limit than I wants to front the costs, they are more than welcome to step forward and do so, I would still organize the spreadsheet of people and sizes.

For the record, I'd vastly prefer if the colors were inverted (red design on grey or white shirt). I've never liked red shirts.

Lauren '06

munchkin
Done and done. See what you think about this. The demon bear is bigger, and the C is removed entirely. I also added the comma to make it grammatically correct.
Evil Dream-Crushing, Soul Devouring Juggernaut Bear

Looks like we've moved past this one, but it's definitely my favorite. From a distance it looks like the bear is destroying Tokyo.

I'm with Lauren. I like the Tokyo-devouring bear.

I really like the bear photograph.

I would prefer to keep the red. There are more than enough gray and white T-shirts out there. If I am wearing Cornell gear, I want it to be red. Besides, it really stands out at a game when almost everyone is in red.

munchkin
So we won't be ordering through CustomInk; that's just for designing. I'll be putting together the order, and I'll either use PSP and have someone in Ithaca pick up the shirts, or use a place local to me in Boston. Shirts will need to be prepaid through paypal since I can't front that much. Once we have the final design picked, I'll post more details. If someone who has a higher credit limit than I wants to front the costs, they are more than welcome to step forward and do so, I would still organize the spreadsheet of people and sizes.

Do we gotta be on campus or can we get them all the way out here in CA?

This is what I have so far. I need to go to bed soon, but it's a star off point.

Note: this is not finished, so if you have suggestions let me know.

ajh258
This is what I have so far. I need to go to bed soon, but it's a star off point.

Note: this is not finished, so if you have suggestions let me know.

Don't know if you were planning on it or not, but retaining some scruffiness would be nice.

imafrshmn

ajh258
This is what I have so far. I need to go to bed soon, but it's a star off point.

Note: this is not finished, so if you have suggestions let me know.

Don't know if you were planning on it or not, but retaining some scruffiness would be nice.

I didn't want to just lasso the bear and then put in red... that's kinda copyright infringement but I'll see what I can do.

possibly something like the attached?

Now THAT'S what I call a bear!

ben03
possibly something like the attached?

That looks good. How about "Beware of" above the bear and then the quote below as you have itwithout the "Big Red" part? If we already have "Big Red Hockey" on the front, I think that would go better.

"Beware of"
"The soul devouring, dream crushing juggernaut" minus the "Big Red" part.

I think this would work with the hockey bear and no "C" in the earlier posts as well.

I have nothing to contribute other than to voice my desire to own one

To answer some of the questions: you do not have to be in Ithaca. Case in point: I'm in Boston, and Hockeychick470 is in Virgina. Once I figure out numbers, shirt costs, etc, and set up the paypal stuff, I'll let you know shipping costs. It'll probably be $4.95 with the USPS flat rate small box, only one shirt would fit in each of those boxes (I think). I'll also figure out if the soft envelopes are cheaper since shirts don't weight very much. This means if you're a Big Red supporter in California, you can get people know that Cornell hockey crushes dreams and devours souls.

The shirts will be red. If we're going to wear these to games, they're going to be red, and I have tons of gray and white shirts from other stuff.

The word Evil is not part of the quote, but I'm in favor of scrapping the C once ajh258 finishes it and putting beware on top of the bear head with the rest of the phrase under it. I'll play with designs once the bear head is done.

That's all for now.

munchkin
So we won't be ordering through CustomInk; that's just for designing. I'll be putting together the order, and I'll either use PSP and have someone in Ithaca pick up the shirts, or use a place local to me in Boston. Shirts will need to be prepaid through paypal since I can't front that much. Once we have the final design picked, I'll post more details. If someone who has a higher credit limit than I wants to front the costs, they are more than welcome to step forward and do so, I would still organize the spreadsheet of people and sizes.

You gals, (why is it that guys can be generic, but it doesn't seem the same for gals? Just kidding, sort of; I don't want to take over this thread, the shirt is too important to do that.) are awesome. If you really need someone to front this, I'll do it. Just let me know, PM me or call work 315-422-0379. But you'll have to wait for me to call back.

ajh258

RPD18-GrizzlyBear.jpg

This is the bear i'm working off of. This might take a while because I'm working with a crappy mouse on my laptop but I'll get it done.

Doesn't this guy go to Brown?

Munchkin -- since you seem to be the leader for this, can you please edit the first post and (1) make sure the link is the latest one and (2) let others know it is the latest / final link? Thanks!

Most Recent

This is with the bear that ajh258 has been working on. Right now, with just the lines, it's ok on the shirt, but (s)he says it's not done, so we'll wait to see what the final version looks like.

The very top message in the thread will also contain the most recent design, I changed the link up there, and will edit it as necessary.

There is now an order form in the top message as well. Fill it out, and I'll let you know how much you owe once that is determined.

I did some more digging last night and found a better bear.

As long as we don't make more than 500,000 prints, I think we can use the bear royalty-free.

I'm attaching the image and here is the altered design on CustomInk

Btw, I'm a "he"

ajh258
I did some more digging last night and found a better bear.

As long as we don't make more than 500,000 prints, I think we can use the bear royalty-free.

I'm attaching the image and here is the altered design on CustomInk

Btw, I'm a "he"

I like this bear better. This kind of feels like an eye exam: Bear #1 or Bear #2? C #1 or C #2? . Thanks to the creative design team for putting this together and making it happen. You all Rock!

Munchkin.....love your enthusiasm. Been having lots of discussions about quote all through the weekend, but not an eLynah guy till now. We should talk.....Jeff at PSP Two new ECAC Champs logos will be coming out through the Cornell Store and online from them starting tomorrow.

Rita

ajh258
I did some more digging last night and found a better bear.

As long as we don't make more than 500,000 prints, I think we can use the bear royalty-free.

I'm attaching the image and here is the altered design on CustomInk

Btw, I'm a "he"

I like this bear better. This kind of feels like an eye exam: Bear #1 or Bear #2? C #1 or C #2? . Thanks to the creative design team for putting this together and making it happen. You all Rock!

I don't. Dagger-wielding bear was best, but face-on "new" bear is also great. Pretty fierce, I would say. Almost the kind of logo that, say, Athletics should go with instead of Huggy Bear. Steroidal bears = suck.

Just be clear, I like design "openmouth."

munchkin

Are we allowed to use official Cornell logos on something that's not licensed? That's why we've been using alternatives to the Bear in the C or the bear leaning on the C

Here is a link to Cornell's policy for the use of Cornell's name, logos, trademarks and insignias.

ben03
possibly something like the attached?

I like the bear photo too but it may be difficult to do on a shirt.

Ok, so we'll be using the Cornell Bear hugging the C holding a hockey stick. I've been talking to PSP since they print a lot of merchandise for the Cornell store, and they will be making this, rather than me putting together an order. Apparently the hockey players families saw this and were also interested right away.

The shirt design will be the Big Red Hockey on the front and on the back BEWARE OF with the bear under that and THE DREAM-CRUSHING, SOUL-DEVOURING JUGGERNAUT under Huggy Bear with hockey stick.

I used to work for a company that designed typefaces and I think it is very difficult to patent/copyright a letterform. That being said I think the back should be simple. A big very nasty, nightmarish bear and the quote. Big is better than wordy.

Scrivens quote by the way is superior but belongs in the locker room. Kind of like DiMaggio's quote.

First and most importantly I really want to thank Munchkin and Hockeychick for running with this, and everyone else who is now involved. This is just one of those things that makes ELynah and Cornell Hockey fans so great.

The only comment I'll make on the design is that I think the addition of "Beware Of" above the quote really weakens things. For starters, without that you've got one statement that starts on the front, and is finished on the back: "Big Red Hockey: The dream-crushing, soul-devouring..." (I'm not suggesting adding the colon--just saying it reads that way, as one statement. Adding the "Beware of" stops it from being one statement, which I think weakens the message.

Also, although as someone else pointed out, not a true quote, the words "dream-crushing..." were all part of what was written. "Beware of" wasn't. It also seems kind of cheesy.

I don't know if I am expressing myself well, but I like the designs much better without the "Beaware of." That being said, I'll be buying several no matter what the designers decide. Thanks again, very very much, for undertaking this project!

FWIW, I care very much who originally said what and to that end would like to keep things closer to the original by nixing the "beware" and going with

"...the dream-crushers,

<BEAR>

...the soul-devouring juggernauts
of the league." -Brian Sullivan, USCHO

ajh258
I did some more digging last night and found a better bear.

As long as we don't make more than 500,000 prints, I think we can use the bear royalty-free.

I'm attaching the image and here is the altered design on CustomInk

Btw, I'm a "he"

awesome.

The Rancor

ajh258
I did some more digging last night and found a better bear.

As long as we don't make more than 500,000 prints, I think we can use the bear royalty-free.

I'm attaching the image and here is the altered design on CustomInk

Btw, I'm a "he"

awesome.

I would get rid of the "Beware of", but otherwise I think this looks awesome. I'm in for at least 4.

My vote is for the simple, stark quote, no illustration, no extra words. The quote is perfect, the rest is clutter (IMHO of course).

I agree with Trotsky

I'll be talking to Jeff later today when he sends me the proof, it'll be going into production tomorrow or Wednesday morning at the latest. I can easily nix the Beware Of when he and I go over the final design.

Thank you for all the input, and I can't wait to see everyone walking around wearing these shirts in Albany and Detroit. Brian is pretty excited about it, too.

Let's Go Red!

Trotsky
My vote is for the simple, stark quote, no illustration, no extra words. The quote is perfect, the rest is clutter (IMHO of course).

Agree.

my 2 cents

[www.customink.com]

ooops try this one

[www.customink.com]

thanks for putting this all together. me and a few buddies are definitely going to be ordering once everything is finalized

The reason we're using the Cornell huggy bear holding a hockey stick is that it will be sold at the Cornell store and will be part of the store's e-mail blast to 40,000 registered alums. Since it's being marketed by Cornell and sold by them, they want us to use the official logo. Jeff said that the school doesn't like people using other bears. Don't worry, all, you will be able to order them within the next few days.

If PSP, the campus store, etc., are going to be making a profit off these I would hope that they either a) sell them to the eLynah community at cost, or at a big discount, or b) compensate Munchkin, Hockeychick, etc., for the time and effort they put in.

I realize that those of you who put in the effort were almost certainly doing so out of the goodness of your hearts, for the benefit of the eLynah community. But if the eLynah community is not going to benefit (in the form of reduced pricing) then you (the people who put in the effort) should.

Does that make sense?

andyw2100
If PSP, the campus store, etc., are going to be making a profit off these I would hope that they either a) sell them to the eLynah community at cost, or at a big discount, or b) compensate Munchkin, Hockeychick, etc., for the time and effort they put in.

I realize that those of you who put in the effort were almost certainly doing so out of the goodness of your hearts, for the benefit of the eLynah community. But if the eLynah community is not going to benefit (in the form of reduced pricing) then you (the people who put in the effort) should.

Does that make sense?

Amen!

andyw2100
If PSP, the campus store, etc., are going to be making a profit off these I would hope that they either a) sell them to the eLynah community at cost, or at a big discount, or b) compensate Munchkin, Hockeychick, etc., for the time and effort they put in.

I realize that those of you who put in the effort were almost certainly doing so out of the goodness of your hearts, for the benefit of the eLynah community. But if the eLynah community is not going to benefit (in the form of reduced pricing) then you (the people who put in the effort) should.

Does that make sense?

It does make sense. I'd rather see all of you get a discount so I'll ask if something can be worked out, like a special link posted on eLynah that gets reduced pricing relative to the campus store. And you're right, this was done entirely out of love for Cornell and the hockey program.

We have a shirt design!

that looks excellent

I'm buying, and I don't normally.

Excellent!

munchkin
We have a shirt design!

Great work.

munchkin
We have a shirt design!

This latest design looks pretty nice, actually. Don't know if the issue is still open for feedback, but, not to take anything away from Brian (and he did himself say that it would be okay for the attribution to be small), but I would make the attribution line smaller.

munchkin
To answer some of the questions: you do not have to be in Ithaca. Case in point: I'm in Boston, and Hockeychick470 is in Virgina. Once I figure out numbers, shirt costs, etc, and set up the paypal stuff, I'll let you know shipping costs. It'll probably be $4.95 with the USPS flat rate small box, only one shirt would fit in each of those boxes (I think). I'll also figure out if the soft envelopes are cheaper since shirts don't weight very much. This means if you're a Big Red supporter in California, you can get people know that Cornell hockey crushes dreams and devours souls.

The shirts will be red. If we're going to wear these to games, they're going to be red, and I have tons of gray and white shirts from other stuff.

The word Evil is not part of the quote, but I'm in favor of scrapping the C once ajh258 finishes it and putting beware on top of the bear head with the rest of the phrase under it. I'll play with designs once the bear head is done.

That's all for now.

Awesome, thank you! This is beyond awesome!