Milo

The defections topic is getting stale. So how does this affect the team?

Ari said in the preseason that he was a potential 100pt scorer. He ended up the lowest scoring of all the forwards who played more than half the games. My personal opinion is that he was underachieving, undersized, and he allegiance was divided. With that said, there's also plenty of forward talent, with more on it's way. He just wasn't worth the roster spot.

What do you think?

since the defections post is moving here, this is posted in both.The only bad thing he did was play baseball!

To dismiss a solid 2 way player like this for playing a sport in his off season is moronic by schafer. But maybe in Schafer's eyes playing baseball is a lot worse than rape.

DILLIGAF
But maybe in Schafer's eyes playing baseball is a lot worse than rape.

uh...

maybe he did something that we don't know about, and will never know about.

DILLIGAF
since the defections post is moving here, this is posted in both.The only bad thing he did was play baseball!

To dismiss a solid 2 way player like this for playing a sport in his off season is moronic by schafer. But maybe in Schafer's eyes playing baseball is a lot worse than rape.

I don't think we have any idea what happenned and to speculate like this is ridiculous. Maybe it was Milo's idea? Who knows?

Dpperk29
maybe he did something that we don't know about, and will never know about.

Or maybe it was by mutual agreement. Whatever the reasons are for his leaving the team, neither Milo nor the hockey program is under any obligation to inform the public about those reasons.

We should be careful in our speculations such that reputation of Cornell and its students are not damaged by unsubstantiated claims.

well it couldn't be academic or discipline related or he would be ineligible for the baseball team.

DILLIGAF
since the defections post is moving here, this is posted in both.The only bad thing he did was play baseball!

To dismiss a solid 2 way player like this for playing a sport in his off season is moronic by schafer. But maybe in Schafer's eyes playing baseball is a lot worse than rape.

Just curious: how do you know any of this? Are you an insider in the hockey program?

... and fans are under no obligation to stop speculating about what happened to a promsing player. If he is in fact gone for sure from the hockey team, quite possibly:

- he wasn't as good as his previous year's point totals suggested
- Milo and Schafer had a personality clash resolved in the coach's favor
- Milo decided he liked baseball more

DILLIGAF
well it couldn't be academic or discipline related or he would be ineligible for the baseball team.

It certainly could be he just changed his mind about playing both sports. Maybe he just decided he liked baseball better. It worked out OK for Tom Glavine.

Josh '99

DILLIGAF
well it couldn't be academic or discipline related or he would be ineligible for the baseball team.

It certainly could be he just changed his mind about playing both sports. Maybe he just decided he liked baseball better. It worked out OK for Tom Glavine.

And Kirk McCaskill, but UVM sucks.

DILLIGAF
well it couldn't be ... discipline related or he would be ineligible for the baseball team.

This isn't necessarily true. If there was insubordination or other team-related discipline, the baseball coach would have no obligation to back up Schafer's punishment. Obviously I have no insider knowledge at all as to the reasons for the split.

And the seemingly gratuitous implication that there was a rape (by Milo? a teammate? a past player? student-athletes generally? who the hell knows) or that the coaching staff doesn't care is pretty gross.

Listen, people, there's a group that it's acceptable to make false accusations against, and they're called Clarkson players.

French Rage
Listen, people, there's a group that it's acceptable to make false accusations against, and they're called Clarkson players.

Nickerson ran over my dog...P/M me for details.

sah67

French Rage
Listen, people, there's a group that it's acceptable to make false accusations against, and they're called Clarkson players.

Nickerson ran over my dog...P/M me for details.

I almost ran into Nickerson the other day...

... so I backed up and tried again.

French Rage
Listen, people, there's a group that it's acceptable to make false accusations against, and they're called Clarkson players.

And a proper place for it:
Redemption Center

marty

French Rage
Listen, people, there's a group that it's acceptable to make false accusations against, and they're called Clarkson players.

And a proper place for it:
Redemption Center

No worries Marty, Cornell fans speak more shit about their own players than I ever would, even as a rival.
Cheers!
Drew

Drew

marty

French Rage
Listen, people, there's a group that it's acceptable to make false accusations against, and they're called Clarkson players.

And a proper place for it:
Redemption Center

No worries Marty, Cornell fans speak more shit about their own players than I ever would as a rival.
Cheers!
Drew

He's got a point.

The rape issue in no way involved Milo, it was prior to his arrival, but the involved student athletes were not disciplined and are still playing.

Unsubstantiated criminal claims about unnamed people from an anonymous source. We're a real message board at last.

Rita
We should be careful in our speculations such that reputation of Cornell and its students are not damaged by unsubstantiated claims.

Not to mention that there's an online forum for this: USCHO.

RatushnyFan

Rita
We should be careful in our speculations such that reputation of Cornell and its students are not damaged by unsubstantiated claims.

Not to mention that there's an online forum for this: USCHO.

Our rapists will make us a perrenial powerhouse!

French Rage

RatushnyFan

Rita
We should be careful in our speculations such that reputation of Cornell and its students are not damaged by unsubstantiated claims.

Not to mention that there's an online forum for this: USCHO.

Our rapists will make us a perrenial powerhouse!

"I'll take 'the rapists' for twenty" wins per season.

Josh '99

French Rage

RatushnyFan

Rita
We should be careful in our speculations such that reputation of Cornell and its students are not damaged by unsubstantiated claims.

Not to mention that there's an online forum for this: USCHO.

Our rapists will make us a perrenial powerhouse!

"I'll take 'the rapists' for twenty" wins per season.

"I was both an analyst and a therapist. I was the first anal-rapist."

"It wasn't really the pronounciation that bothered me."

Guess he knows hot to hit: [cornellbigred.cstv.com]

[cornellbigred.cstv.com]

Just a thought on this Milo off the team situation...any chance that he really would have liked to play both but Schafer saw that he is a really good baseball player and kicked him off the hockey team so that he had to focus on the sport he (may) have a career in? Even though he is pretty short to play baseball. Just a thought

johnny923
Just a thought on this Milo off the team situation...any chance that he really would have liked to play both but Schafer saw that he is a really good baseball player and kicked him off the hockey team so that he had to focus on the sport he (may) have a career in? Even though he is pretty short to play baseball. Just a thought

Possible...but doubtful. More liklely Milo (his parents?) thought it better to preserve his body for any baseball career.

It's also very possible that he just didn't fit in personality-wise. Like Mike Stachurski a few years back, a tough, hard-nosed d-man who just couldn't blend with the team culture and personalities.

At least that's what he told me.....

johnny923
Just a thought on this Milo off the team situation...any chance that he really would have liked to play both but Schafer saw that he is a really good baseball player and kicked him off the hockey team so that he had to focus on the sport he (may) have a career in? Even though he is pretty short to play baseball. Just a thought

Seems extremely unlikely. Why would Schafer take it upon himself to decide that a player (that he recruited) is better suited for another sport and then force him to go play it? The only way that makes sense to me is if the kid really can't play hockey but no one is accusing Milo of being a bad hockey player.

Townie

It's also very possible that he just didn't fit in personality-wise. Like Mike Stachurski a few years back, a tough, hard-nosed d-man who just couldn't blend with the team culture and personalities.

At least that's what he told me.....

Although the personality thing is true, Stachurski flat out just wasn't good enough. For some reason, the coaches brought him in after never seeing him play.

calgARI '07

Townie

It's also very possible that he just didn't fit in personality-wise. Like Mike Stachurski a few years back, a tough, hard-nosed d-man who just couldn't blend with the team culture and personalities.

At least that's what he told me.....

Although the personality thing is true, Stachurski flat out just wasn't good enough. For some reason, the coaches brought him in after never seeing him play.

Did he transfer somewhere else to play or settle for the academic life at Cornell?

ugarte
Did he transfer somewhere else to play or settle for the academic life at Cornell?

Stayed at Cornell, played club hockey, and will be graduating this weekend I think.

calgARI '07

ugarte
Did he transfer somewhere else to play or settle for the academic life at Cornell?

Stayed at Cornell, played club hockey, and will be graduating this weekend I think.

He also was the head coach of the women's club team this year, so I'm not sure how actively he was playing on the men's club team.

sah67

calgARI '07

ugarte
Did he transfer somewhere else to play or settle for the academic life at Cornell?

Stayed at Cornell, played club hockey, and will be graduating this weekend I think.

He also was the head coach of the women's club team this year, so I'm not sure how actively he was playing on the men's club team.

Last I spoke to him (several years ago), the men's club was doing well and in contention for a title or championship of some sort.

Justin Milo is playing in a 4-on-4 league this summer. [www.mn4on4hockey.com] It's a strange mix of pros and amateurs.

Milo has been added to Lincoln's protected roster, according to USHR.

ithacat
Milo has been added to Lincoln's protected roster, according to USHR.

What does that mean?

A Lincoln message board had mentioned that he was at camp getting ready for the tournament he's playing in up in Minnesota. Seems odd that they would use a roster spot if there wasn't a chance he might return to the USHL. Maybe he's just keeping his options open in case he truly can't return to the team.

ithacat
A Lincoln message board had mentioned that he was at camp getting ready for the tournament he's playing in up in Minnesota. Seems odd that they would use a roster spot if there wasn't a chance he might return to the USHL. Maybe he's just keeping his options open in case he truly can't return to the team.

What would this do to his baseball career?

Milo will also be playing in an International Jewish Tournament in Israel this summer. Other members of Team USA include Dov Grumet-Morris and Nathan Davis. Also, David Adler is on the roster. Dylan Reese was supposed to play but he had to drop out. The GM's of Team USA are Dave Taylor and Neil Smith.

ursusminor
Justin Milo is playing in a 4-on-4 league this summer. [www.mn4on4hockey.com] It's a strange mix of pros and amateurs.

He didn't play in either of the first two league games last week. [www.mn4on4hockey.com] It is possible that he played but didn't score a goal or have an assist, but rather unlikely considering the high scores. (The team with the three RPI players scored 32 goals in 2 games.)

calgARI '07
Milo will also be playing in an International Jewish Tournament in Israel this summer. Other members of Team USA include Dov Grumet-Morris and Nathan Davis. Also, David Adler is on the roster. Dylan Reese was supposed to play but he had to drop out. The GM's of Team USA are Dave Taylor and Neil Smith.

that wasn't part of my birthright trip!

USHL teams had to cut their rostrs to 25 by July 1st. Milo is one of the 25 protected by the Stars. Rosters are finalized at 23 by the end of September.

[www.ushl.com]

calgARI '07
Milo will also be playing in an International Jewish Tournament in Israel this summer. Other members of Team USA include Dov Grumet-Morris and Nathan Davis. Also, David Adler is on the roster. Dylan Reese was supposed to play but he had to drop out. The GM's of Team USA are Dave Taylor and Neil Smith.

Dov scored a goal [www.jpost.com] Recent RPI grad Oren Eizenman was named best forward.

ursusminor

calgARI '07
Milo will also be playing in an International Jewish Tournament in Israel this summer. Other members of Team USA include Dov Grumet-Morris and Nathan Davis. Also, David Adler is on the roster. Dylan Reese was supposed to play but he had to drop out. The GM's of Team USA are Dave Taylor and Neil Smith.

Dov scored a goal [www.jpost.com] Recent RPI grad Oren Eizenman was named best forward.

That's pretty weird that it mentions the goal so casually. I would think there would have been a lot more said about a goal scored by a netminder. Particularly since it was such a close game.

I read somewhere that Hyphen was playing forward in the game.

I bet the catholic tourney would be much better hockey.

wewantmore
I bet the catholic tourney would be much better hockey.

Although the Jewish hockey fan tournament would be bigger.

wewantmore
I bet the catholic tourney would be much better hockey.

Does the Vatican have a rink?

ursusminor
I read somewhere that Hyphen was playing forward in the game.

That's good strategy by the coach, since Hyphen is a shitty goalie.

It has a rink, the Pope and the preists don't play though, they lend a hand (if you know what I mean) with the youth instructional program.

DILLIGAF
It has a rink, the Pope and the preists don't play though, they lend a hand (if you know what I mean) with the youth instructional program.

Actually I heard that they save a ton on refrigeration, since they can all skate on water.

Jeff Hopkins '82

DILLIGAF
It has a rink, the Pope and the preists don't play though, they lend a hand (if you know what I mean) with the youth instructional program.

Actually I heard that they save a ton on refrigeration, since they can all skate on water.

Actually, The Great One is the only Catholic All-Stars player to ever skate on water. Man that guy was good...

Wow, I didn't see this one coming...

Former Lincoln player Justin Milo will play baseball at Vermont this year, after considering a return to the Stars. Kyle Follmer has also been considering college options, but appears headed back to Lincoln for another season.

[journalstar.com]

Makes me think Milo isn't done playing college hockey.

Well, he's certainyl keeping his options open. He's goign to a school with a strong hockey program, should he decide to lace the skates up a year from now (he would have to sit out a year of hockey because he transfered, right?)

ithacat
Former Lincoln player Justin Milo will play baseball at Vermont this year

Vermont is a Division I program. Won't Milo have to sit a year to transfer?

There is nothing on the Vermont website about Milo's arrival.

So is four balls an elephant walk?

evilnaturedrobot
Well, he's certainyl keeping his options open. He's goign to a school with a strong hockey program, should he decide to lace the skates up a year from now (he would have to sit out a year of hockey because he transfered, right?)

I would assume he has to sit a year of baseball too, no?

I'm pretty sure that the only sports that require a year long sit are football, basketball and hockey. Thus, he could play baseball this year and then lace up his skates and play both sports next year.

evilnaturedrobot
I'm pretty sure that the only sports that require a year long sit are football, basketball and hockey. Thus, he could play baseball this year and then lace up his skates and play both sports next year.

Spot on. Glad to see you've stopped drinking (today).

Talk about moving up in leagues. From the EZAC to Hockey East. This is a great move for Milo.

DILLIGAF
Talk about moving up in leagues. From the EZAC to Hockey East. This is a great move for Milo.

But then, I didn't know that Hockey East had a baseball team.

Jim Hyla

DILLIGAF
Talk about moving up in leagues. From the EZAC to Hockey East. This is a great move for Milo.

But then, I didn't know that Hockey East had a baseball team.

Neither does the ECAC (as far as Cornell is concerned). In baseball he is going from the Ivy League to America East.

He obvioulsy didn't leave to play baseball. He left to play baseball and hockey.

The Cornell baseball coach can't be real happy with Mike for screwing Milo over and driving him away. How often do you lose a Freshman All American because of another coach at your school?

DILLIGAF
whine whine whine, coach schafer sucks, whine whine whine

broken record
*clap clap clapclapclap*
broken record
*clap clap clapclapclap*

sorry, i couldn't resist feeding the troll. they're just so darn cute sometimes.

ugarte

evilnaturedrobot
I'm pretty sure that the only sports that require a year long sit are football, basketball and hockey. Thus, he could play baseball this year and then lace up his skates and play both sports next year.

Spot on. Glad to see you've stopped drinking (today).

well, the sun's still out.

DILLIGAF
He obvioulsy didn't leave to play baseball. He left to play baseball and hockey.

The Cornell baseball coach can't be real happy with Mike for screwing Milo over and driving him away. How often do you lose a Freshman All American because of another coach at your school?

Or perhaps the hockey coach can't be real happy with Milo for being a jerk and screwing with the team. But I guess I don't know which of these suppositions is true.

But I do know that YYLLYGAD...FO...L...HTR...DLTDHYOTWO...&...FYVM!

DILLIGAF
He obvioulsy didn't leave to play baseball. He left to play baseball and hockey.

The Cornell baseball coach can't be real happy with Mike for screwing Milo over and driving him away. How often do you lose a Freshman All American because of another coach at your school?

Mmhmm, Schafer should have treated Milo differently at a detriment to his team to help our amazing baseball team. Got it.

to be fair, every indication is that when Milo commited to Cornell he was told that he could play both sports ( I seem to recall that this being mentioned somtime in the 05-o6 year.) If it is true that Schafer changed his mind half way through the year, and there is no evidence of this aside from Dilligaf's highly suspect word, then it's a poor job on Mike's part. It would be completely unfair to Milo to tell him that he could play both sports and then boot him off the team for doing exactly that.

But again, the assumption has been made that Baseball is the reason for Milo's departure and I've yet to hear any comfirmation of this from a reliable source.

evilnaturedrobot
to be fair, every indication is that when Milo commited to Cornell he was told that he could play both sports ( I seem to recall that this being mentioned somtime in the 05-o6 year.) If it is true that Schafer changed his mind half way through the year, and there is no evidence of this aside from Dilligaf's highly suspect word, then it's a poor job on Mike's part. It would be completely unfair to Milo to tell him that he could play both sports and then boot him off the team for doing exactly that.

But again, the assumption has been made that Baseball is the reason for Milo's departure and I've yet to hear any comfirmation of this from a reliable source.

Additionally, this alleged behavior on Shafer's part makes little sense. Talented athletes often play multiple sports. Didn't MJ play baseball and basketball at North Carolina? To have a one-sport policy would eliminate some of the more gifted athletes. Does anyone know of another player who played two sports under Mike?

Of course, if playing the two sports caused serious conflict, that would be another story. To my mind, there's a big difference between a coach saying, "No, you cannot play baseball and still be on this team" and one saying, "No, you cannot miss the ECAC playoffs to go to that Florida baseball tournament and remain on this team."

Milo removed from the 2008 Cornell baseball team roster.

Swampy
Does anyone know of another player who played two sports under Mike?

Damian Rocke.

Swampy
Didn't MJ play baseball and basketball at North Carolina?

No.

ugarte

Swampy
Didn't MJ play baseball and basketball at North Carolina?

No.

What part of Jordan's minor league "career" led you to think he'd played baseball since little league?

KeithK
What part of Jordan's minor league "career" led you to think he'd played baseball since little league?[/quote

That is just mean!

Swampy
Didn't MJ play baseball and basketball at North Carolina?

Totally random, but I once heard an inspirational speaker (Albert Long) who lettered in 4 sports at UNC: Track, Baseball, Basketball, and Football. Of course, he graduated in 1955, but that's still pretty crazy.

DILLIGAF

KeithK
What part of Jordan's minor league "career" led you to think he'd played baseball since little league?

That is just mean!

The guy couldn't score from second on a double. Sometimes the truth hurts...

Well, Harry Orr did play hockey and lacrosse under Harkness. The results weren't too shabby.

Maybe the solution would have been for Mike to take over coaching baseball in addition to hockey.

I teach skiing part-time with a guy named Joe Bartlett who is in the UNH hall of fame for lettering in three sports. Of course, part of the reason he is in the hall of fame is because he was the last athlete to do this at UNH and it was in the 70's. He played with Dick Umile when hockey first became a varsity sport there. I think he played football and baseball, too, but I can't remember which other sports for sure.

Knowing him, I can see how Joe had the talent to do this. He didn't learn skiing until he was in his 40's, yet he is very good. He also perenially vies for the club championship at a couple of local courses.

Swampy
Maybe the solution would have been for Mike to take over coaching baseball in addition to hockey.

Sure if the result wanted was a high level of dysfunction and under-achievement Mike is definitely the answer.

dysfunction and under-achievement being defined as: multiple conferance championships, several NCAA appearances, and generally being the most successful ECAC team over the last 7 years?

evilnaturedrobot
dysfunction and under-achievement being defined as: multiple conferance championships, several NCAA appearances, and generally being the most successful ECAC team over the last 7 years?

To be fair, with the talent he has had, Schafer should have an 2 NCAA titles, a Stanley Cup and the Congressional Medal of Freedom.

Presidential Medal of Freedom.

evilnaturedrobot
dysfunction and under-achievement being defined as: multiple conferance championships, several NCAA appearances, and generally being the most successful ECAC team over the last 7 years?

Looked it up to help you out:

dysfunction and under-achievement: n.pl. 1. DILLIGAF. (See also, Hahvahd in the NCAA tournament.)

DILLIGAF

Swampy
Maybe the solution would have been for Mike to take over coaching baseball in addition to hockey.

Sure if the result wanted was a high level of dysfunction and under-achievement Mike is definitely the answer.

Just because Mike turned you down when you asked him to the prom is no reason for such nastiness. We've been through this before with transgendered nuns, no less. Your problems can be handled with some long talks

The Answer

or if you are the underachiever that I believe you can try some of these

Get Happy

Sorry but I can't help with specific "Happy" recommendations.

UVm Elephant Walk Dept.
Sophomore Justin Milo (Eden Prairie, Minn.) has announced his decision to transfer to the University of Vermont from Cornell and will play baseball and men’s hockey for the Catamounts. Milo (pronounced MY-low) will have three seasons of eligibility remaining for baseball beginning with the 2008 season. He also will have three years of eligibility remaining for hockey starting with 2008-09 season after sitting out the 2007-08 season per NCAA rules.

[www.uvm.edu]

Chris '03

UVm Elephant Walk Dept.
Sophomore Justin Milo (Eden Prairie, Minn.) has announced his decision to transfer to the University of Vermont from Cornell and will play baseball and men’s hockey for the Catamounts. Milo (pronounced MY-low) will have three seasons of eligibility remaining for baseball beginning with the 2008 season. He also will have three years of eligibility remaining for hockey starting with 2008-09 season after sitting out the 2007-08 season per NCAA rules.

[www.uvm.edu]

Off he goes, like sheep to the slaughter.... errr...elephant walk.

Ben Rocky '04

Chris '03

UVm Elephant Walk Dept.
Sophomore Justin Milo (Eden Prairie, Minn.) has announced his decision to transfer to the University of Vermont from Cornell and will play baseball and men’s hockey for the Catamounts. Milo (pronounced MY-low) will have three seasons of eligibility remaining for baseball beginning with the 2008 season. He also will have three years of eligibility remaining for hockey starting with 2008-09 season after sitting out the 2007-08 season per NCAA rules.

[www.uvm.edu]

Off he goes, like sheep to the slaughter.... errr...elephant walk.

So he gets three whole seasons to finish 5th in Hockey East?

French Rage

Ben Rocky '04

Chris '03

UVm Elephant Walk Dept.
Sophomore Justin Milo (Eden Prairie, Minn.) has announced his decision to transfer to the University of Vermont from Cornell and will play baseball and men’s hockey for the Catamounts. Milo (pronounced MY-low) will have three seasons of eligibility remaining for baseball beginning with the 2008 season. He also will have three years of eligibility remaining for hockey starting with 2008-09 season after sitting out the 2007-08 season per NCAA rules.

[www.uvm.edu]

Off he goes, like sheep to the slaughter.... errr...elephant walk.

So he gets three whole seasons to finish 5th in Hockey East?

Well, look...I wish him luck and will root for his continued (individual) success. He obviously knows what he wants to do, has demonstrated skill at these things, and wasn't afforded the opportunity to be able to continue to do so at Cornell. Good for him for seeking out a place that he can persue all of his goals.

IIRC, Kirk McCaskill was an All-American hockey player at UVM, and then went on for a lengthy Major League Baseball career.

Maybe Justin just didn't like donuts....

Milo's sticks are still in the locker room...

ebilmes
Milo's sticks are still in the locker room...

Well the school buys the sticks, so that isn't very surprising.

5th in Hockey East will generally get you to the NCAAs and have you ranked in the top 20 in the country.

DILLIGAF
5th in Hockey East will generally get you to the NCAAs and have you ranked in the top 20 in the country.

If by "generally" you mean it only happened last year and never before (of course, it only makes sense to go back to 2003), then yes. Meanwhile, Cornell has done that 4 of the last 6 years. So yeah, I can see how being 5th in Hockey East is so much better than here.

(And of course if you read the USCHO forums the only reason Hockey East got 5 teams last year was the vast eastern conspiracy.

Hey, remember the last time Vermont was in the NCAA? It was TEN YEARS AGO. The most notable thing they've done since Martin St. Louis and Eric Perrin and Tim Thomas left was to have a season canceled for hazing. So let's not go making assumptions about them just yet.

Article in today's Burlington Free Press about the Milo transfer.

[www.burlingtonfreepress.com]

Justin Milo makes one thing clear: He says he harbors no ill will toward Cornell University and Big Red hockey coach Mike Schafer.

"Cornell is a great place, but it kind of didn't work out on the hockey standpoint," said Milo...

Schafer stated, "He's a great kid. I can say he's a really good hockey player but from my standing, things didn't work out at Cornell. We hope they do work out at Vermont."

On the surface, it seems a lot more amicable than the Romano departure. Then again, if you kick a kid off the team, how disappointed can you be when he transfers?

ebilmes
On the surface, it seems a lot more amicable than the Romano departure. Then again, if you kick a kid off the team, how disappointed can you be when he transfers?

The article implies Schafer helped sell Sneddon on Milo. That might be journalistic poetic license, or it might mean Schafer and Milo had an unbridgable difference on baseball, but Mike still liked the kid well enough to help him move on.

The only question in my mind is, if this was all about being a two-sport athlete, why wasn't it resolved prior to his admission? It sounds pretty cut and dried to me. "Coach, if I come here, can I still play baseball?" "No." "OK, then, thanks but I'll take a different route." Pretty straightforward.

Trotsky
The only question in my mind is, if this was all about being a two-sport athlete, why wasn't it resolved prior to his admission? It sounds pretty cut and dried to me. "Coach, if I come here, can I still play baseball?" "No." "OK, then, thanks but I'll take a different route." Pretty straightforward.

Everything I've heard (from reliable sources) indicates it was about him not fitting in with the team from a personality standpoint.