Cornell - Colgate Post Game Thread

[trainbow]

Any injury report?

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

[quote trainbow]Any injury report?[/quote]

No obvious injuries.  Everybody played who was expected to play.

A few players (Chris Abbot, Gleed, Glover) went off for a couple minutes and got looked at on the bench early in the third period, but all came back and played later in the game.

Re the penalty calls:  I also think they were legit.  My biggest knock was that there were plenty of earlier calls that could have been called (and could have gotten some players hurt), but weren't.  Then they called some borderline calls late in a 1-0 game.  Either let them play or call everything, but don't be erratic.

Here's an interesting one.  Y'know how they do a profile on one of the seniors for each school in the program every year?  Cornell's player this year?  Louis Chabot.  Good for him.  :-)

[billhoward]

[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]...  We certainly outplayed Colgate, but as was the case all season, couldn't finish.[/quote]
Story of our life this season: lots of chances, not many goals to show for them. In comparison, Harvard pounced on every opportunity and got some lucky breaks. The first Harvard goal, the rebound bounces into the very perfect spot for a followup shot (that goes in) ... vs. Bitz (?) missing a wide open net from the right side in the third, and Moulson having an even wider open net in the third and a Colgate defender made a sweeping motion that deflected the shot aside while it was in mid-flight.

[Josh '99]

[quote billhoward][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]...and Moulson having an even wider open net in the third and a Colgate defender made a sweeping motion that deflected the shot aside while it was in mid-flight.[/quote]That was a heck of a play by that Colgate guy.

[atb9]

[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Here's an interesting one.  Y'know how they do a profile on one of the seniors for each school in the program every year?  Cornell's player this year?  Louis Chabot.  Good for him.  :-)[/quote]

Nice factoid.  I'm really happy for him, he has played really well this year when he has been needed and he has looked really focused the times I have seen him practice.  I can't say it was always like that.

I was sitting against the glass with a perfect view of the O'Byrne penalty and that seemed like a really weak call that almost lead to a Colgate goal.  O'Byrne barely touched the front of the Colgate player's right shoulder and the kid fell like a bag of bricks.  But the rest of the calls did seem legit, especially the Seminoff penalty which was a severe mental lapse.

Dartmouth was an embarrassment.  Anyone want to teach them how to back-check?  Cheering "it just doesn't matter" during the entire consolation game will be fun.

[RedAR]

As for a continuous droning cheer, how about "SeasonS over!"

[atb9]

[quote atb9]Cheering "it just doesn't matter" during the entire consolation game will be fun.[/quote]

BTW, Colgate beating Dartmouth in the consolation game helps our NCAA seeding.

[marty]

Actually for a Cornell squad that has moved away from holding and "clutching" we were sure doing a hell of a lot of holding against the boards last night.

There really wasn't much to complain about unless you make the argument that since they let a lot of that type of D go for most of the game that Murphy should be consistent and not call holding or interference at all.

I was impressed with Colgate's ability to get off quality shots and McKee was great in stopping those chances.

LGR!

[RedAR]

This is probably mentioned in the PWR threads, but I believe that if Michigan State, Colgate, Bentley, and Boston College win (as well as Cornell), then we end up #4 overall.

[Tub(a)]

[quote RedAR]This is probably mentioned in the PWR threads, but I believe that if Michigan State, Colgate, Bentley, and Boston College win (as well as Cornell), then we end up #4 overall.[/quote]

Wouldn't that require an SCSU victory as well?

[scoop85]

Adding my impressions:

1.  Very physical but clean game.  I haven't seen Colgate during the current era, but it's true as has been said that they are build along the same lines as the Big Red (just not quite as good as the original model ;-) ).

2.  We get lots of chances, but I've never seen a team consistently miss the net as much as we do.

3.  McKee was solid and confident.  He looked a lot better than last weekend.

4.  Even discounting his goal, Bitz was the strongest player on the ice.  Dominated behind the Colgate goal, and had a number of excellent chances.

5.  Our D (especially Krantz and Seminoff) frequently diddled around with the puck leading to turnovers and Colgate pressure.  Unnerving.  That being said, Krantz led a number of nice rushes.

6.  We arrived at the arena with Harvard already leading 4-0.  Hard to believe it only got worse from there.

7.  Colgate seemed to pass up pretty good shots on the power play, looking for the perfect pass.  Our penalty kill was great in any event, and Colgate was clearly frustrated.

8.  Even though we had a nice power play goal, the power play simply does not move the puck very quickly, leading to a disproportionate number of blocked shots.  Bitz' goal was during a rare opportunity right in the slot.

[andyw2100]

[quote RedAR]This is probably mentioned in the PWR threads, but I believe that if Michigan State, Colgate, Bentley, and Boston College win (as well as Cornell), then we end up #4 overall.[/quote]

According to the info in the PWR threads, it takes all the games you mentioned, and then some. Also, there was one post that showed Bentley having to win, and another that showed Bentley having to lose in order for us to gain the 4th seed overall, so perhaps the HC-Bentley game isn't of consequence?

I guess we just need to win, and then let the chips fall where they may.
                        Andy W.

[Rich S]

[quote atb9][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]

I was sitting against the glass with a perfect view of the O'Byrne penalty and that seemed like a really weak call that almost lead to a Colgate goal.  O'Byrne barely touched the front of the Colgate player's right shoulder and the kid fell like a bag of bricks.  But the rest of the calls did seem legit, especially the Seminoff penalty which was a severe mental lapse.

Dartmouth was an embarrassment.  Anyone want to teach them how to back-check?  Cheering "it just doesn't matter" during the entire consolation game will be fun.[/quote]

Following the logic usually espoused here, Byrne must be a "goon."  After all, he took a major penalty and got tossed last week for a hit on Dodge.  Any opposing player who gets a major for a similar infraction is a "goon", so...?::rolleyes::

Sure, you could say that silly chant through the entire game.  You'd do a good job looking and sounding foolish.  Better you should save your energy for chants during the final game, I should think.

[DisplacedCornellian]

[quote Rich S]

Following the logic usually espoused here, Byrne must be a "goon."  After all, he took a major penalty and got tossed last week for a hit on Dodge.  Any opposing player who gets a major for a similar infraction is a "goon", so...?::rolleyes::

Sure, you could say that silly chant through the entire game.  You'd do a good job looking and sounding foolish.  Better you should save your energy for chants during the final game, I should think.[/quote]

Season's over  *clap**clap*  *clap**clap**clap* Season's over *clap**clap*  *clap**clap**clap* ::nut::

[schoaff]

[quote Rich S]
Following the logic usually espoused here, Byrne must be a "goon."  After all, he took a major penalty and got tossed last week for a hit on Dodge.  Any opposing player who gets a major for a similar infraction is a "goon", so...?::rolleyes:: [/quote]

Nope. All Cornell players are saints who never commit a penalty but are sometimes oppressed by referees who may be devious and unethical but are more likely simply fooled by the miscreants who play for the opposition. On occasion a Cornell player may slightly bend a rule but only to sacrifice themselves for the greater good; for instance when they can save a puppy from a burning house by gently cross checking an opponent into the boards.

Opposition players are goons of with low ethical standards who on rare occasion may earn grudging respect from the faithful if they somehow manage against all odds to suppress their base evil instincts.

It's simply a fundamental law upon which the firmament of the universe rests. It's futile to oppose it.

Now one of the great question of hockey theology is whether matriculating at Cornell makes a player a saint, or do all saints invariably matriculate at Cornell.