Andy Noel

[littleredfan]

i LOVE shefter, urban politics was great...i saw him tooling around in his volvo the other day, and had a nice discussion with him about the merits of french vs. italian bread at wegmans

[Beeeej]

I think the guy who ran the Lanes and taught bowling classes my first few years at Cornell was named Sam Partigiani (I'm sure about the "Sam" part), and he was also fantastic.  He was funny, loved the students, and really cared about what he was doing.  I managed to get up to a pretty consistent 210 my second semester of bowling before - as apparently others have done before and since - I blew out my knee.

Beeeej

[judy]

you got a t-shirt for zinck's night???

[Al DeFlorio]

I've never heard of so many blown-out knees caused by bowling.  These guys must teach a very strange technique.   ::nut::

[jtwcornell91]

judy '01 wrote:

you got a t-shirt for zinck's night???

Well, there were two in the Organizers' Survival Kit they sent us; I already had a number of articles of Cornell clothing I could wear, so we decided to hold a drawing and give them out as door prizes.

[bigggreddd77]

Adam,

Bottom line is that things cost money.  You're going to be charged in some way no matter what...  Wether its an extra charge that as part of the student activity fee for EVERYONE regardless of wether they use the gym or not...or just charging the people that use it.  Any costs for internet or gym will be paid by the students regardless.  The only difference is wether mommy and daddy blindly pick up the charge if its included in your tuition/activity fees which you wouldn't notice or complain about...or if it gets billed separately.  You're seeming to forget about that little $30,000+ bill that you get charged every year...  Whew...maybe we should go to Hahvahd where everything is FREEEEE  


MORAL OF THE STORY:

NOTHING IS FREE!!!!

[bigggreddd77]

Memories of LOUIES???  Say it ain't soooooo!!!

Has the movement of freshmen to North transitioned the Cornell memories from Bob (who unfortunately has retired from what I understand) and Hot Truck to that other grease truck?

[Adam \'01]

Louie's is the FAR superior red-n-white truck.  

I respect Bob at the Hot Truck as a legend and his sandwiches were 'decent,' but I'm afraid that the hype is more than the substance.  Bob retired during the early winter of my last year on the Hill....the new guy (Mike, I think?) lacks any personality at all.  Much like his sandwiches.  The Hot Truck is living off reputation, not reality.

On the other hand, Randy and Ron (Randy is the day guy and Ron is the night guy...they're brothers) at Louie's are great.  They knew us by name, knew our stories, and on top of it all made a damn good sandwich.  I was talking to a friend of mine the other day who now, years later, still gets "Tully Withdrawl."  Myself, I was partial to the Buff or the Monster.

So has the transition of frosh to north changed allegiances?  Well, someone in a later class than me is probably better positioned to answer that.  But I can tell you that in my upperclassman years we made an almost nightly trip from way down on Gun Hill all the way up to Louie's on north.


Certainly this will provoke some discussion.   :-)   Might as well, there's still 7 hours until they drop the puck at Lynah!  LGR!!

[cmoberg]

Ah, lunch time and the talk of hot trucks brings back the memory of the West Campus Truck (Johnny's Big Red) Is the electrical hookup still there?? Nothing quite like a  TMBC at 1 in the morning.  I lived in U-Hall 5 my freshman year (75) and I was an RA in McFaddin in 77.

Never really got into the Louies lunch thing on N. Campus (lived in High Rise 5 in 76)

Chris

[Ben Doyle 03]

Jason, I think you are missing Adam's point. . .I think he's talking about the little expenses that SHOULD be included in a $30k+ education. . .in fact you have made his argument for him. Nothing is free. . .but there is no reason to send home nit-picking bills, just lump it into the big one and that way students just don't have to worry about it.


p.s. you should leave your problems with your mommy and daddy out of your argument. it makes you sound bitter. . .

[Brian Deerr '04]

Lowell Frank '99, '03 wrote:

If anybody would like to contribute to Cornell in a positive way, feel free to donate money to either of the Big Red Bands (Marching or Pep).  They're entirely student-run, and if you ask nicely, maybe you can purchase a friendly wake-up call for our esteemed AD.  It's been done before...  :-)

Are you proposing a "give us money and we'll stop playing Macho Man" fundraiser, Lowell?

[Ben Doyle 03]

I tried that last year. . .it didn't work!

[Josh '99]

Brian Deerr '04 wrote:

Are you proposing a "give us money and we'll stop playing Macho Man" fundraiser, Lowell?

Brian, I will personally give YOU real U.S. money if you sabotage the next performance of Macho Man.  :-D

[bigggreddd77]

I do see the point of not being charged in separate bills...  But you keep saying 'should be included' in a 30K + education...I still don't understand your concept of 'included in'.  Also...from what I remember...when you sign up for gym/internet/etc...you can have them CornellCard it anyway, which just goes on as part of your bursar bill

But basically Cornell decided it would charge people for the specific services that they use, instead of charging everyone for services that they may not use.  If it wasn't complaining about the billing...then people would be complaining about the activity fee being so high because of the charge they are paying for a gym or dorm internet service they don't use.

And Ben...when you graduate and have a full time job...if there are any left next May...and live life off of a bursar bill...then you can tell me how to deal with any problems that I may or may not have...

[jtwcornell91]

big red apple wrote:

I am not subscribing to the CornellPass because there are other options.  And I am not happy that they started charging without asking Age or the others here if we would have funded an alternate program, but . . .

Let me just say for the nth time on n different threads: what makes everyone here think that they are entitled to something for nothing?

We're not entitled to free webcasts, but by the same token Cornell's not entitled to our donations.  Universities want to instill spirit and loyalty in their alumni, but they can't have it both ways.  Either we're members of the extended family or we're consumers to be dealt with according to a business model.