Faithful T-shirts

Started by RazzBaronZ, October 31, 2005, 10:53:50 PM

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Beeeej

If they've trademarked or otherwise demonstrated ownership of the terms "Lynah Rink" or "Lynah Faithful," of course they "can get mad" - and if they let one instance go, they'd make it that much harder to enforce every other intellectual property ownership right they have.

That having been said, I tend to doubt that they have trademarked those terms.  Anybody know?

Beeeej
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Cop at Lynah

If sales were to occur off campus then the seller would only have to check with the the City of Ithaca as to what their restrictions are.  I know they have been cracking down on "vendors" and making them fill out paperwork - mostly to ensure that all the proper taxes are collected and distributed accordingly.

jtwcornell91

[Q]A-19 Wrote:
cornell and other schools have lots of rules regarding use of trademark, sales on university property. i've found it's best to avoid those issues as best you can; even established CU clubs have trouble getting permission to sell things on cu property and/or getting permission to use any cu logo/trademark.
[/q]

Makes you long for the days when people just showed up in the dorms selling "Penn Sucks" t-shirts under the radar.

jtwcornell91

[Q]ithacat Wrote:
Is it too early to think about Lynah North (or Lynah-on-the-lake)?[/q]

We don't go to Placid any more.
:`(

jtwcornell91

[Q]A-19 Wrote:(and can you believe harvard thinks they own the letter H?)[/q]

After seeing Frozen Four (R) shirts with TM next to the word "DENVER" (no special font, no University of Denver, just the name of a freakin' city), I'll believe universities' attempts to trademark anything.  Then again, what a corporate entity will attempt to do and what's actually backed up legally are two different things.

cornelldavy

[Q]Beeeej Wrote:

That having been said, I tend to doubt that they have trademarked those terms.  Anybody know?

Beeeej[/q]

I'm not going to start digging through my closet right now, but someone could check the "I did my time in the line" shirts to see if there's a trademark sign on "Lynah Faithful" on the front.

RazzBaronZ

Hey guys,

Cop At Lynah,
Thanks for the advice.  No worries about other shirts.  The other shirts I was going to make were not going to be copyrighted, they were acutally black ninja hoodies (don't ask).  The only possible consequence of this can be death threats from the ninjas on campus.  The only possible problem I can see is the use of Lynah, but as A-19 says, it's a community and a name (no slander involved I think).  If anything we probably have some law school kids on here, right?  Oh, and I'm not taking Cornell Card :-) .  

I just filled out a University Property form, and just in case that doesn't work out, I can just have people come to my friend's house on College Ave. (or meet by CTP as Beeeej says) .

Ithacat,
As far as I've read about the iron-on ink I'm using, it's just like any other silk-screened shirt in terms of washing and drying. I've washed mine twice already and it looks the same, but I read online that it can go through 25+ washes just fine (this is from people who have used and reviewed the ink...the quote was "So far mine's gone through 25 washes and still looking the same").  One of my friends had the ink crack, but they put it in their frat dryer for 60 minutes on high, whih I think is overkill.  Just make sure you wash and dry with the ink inside (turn it inside out) and don't overdry it so that it cracks.

And I checked the Lynah Faithful shirt...no trademark or copyrights at all on either side (not even on WVBR!).

-Alex Barash '07

Josh '99

[Q]RazzBaronZ Wrote:
The only possible consequence of this can be death threats from the ninjas on campus.  [/q]You'd better be careful.  As I'm sure you must know, the purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people.

The word "Lynah" does not appear in any registered US trademarks.

If anyone decides to flout trademark law and make another run of the "Harvard Sucks, Brown Swallows" hats (or maybe it'd be "Dartmouth Swallows" at this point), I'd buy one.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

jbeaber1998

Go to any hat embroidery place and they will make the hat for you.  Not that I have done anything like this, mind you....  That would be a trademark violation.  The guy in Quincy Market turned the machine away from the public based on the language....

andyw2100

Thanks for doing this, Alex.

I'll take two of the short-sleeved red T-shirts, with white lettering. One in XL and one in XXXL. (I know the XXXL will cost $2.00 more.)

I can meet you somewhere in Collegetown if that works best for you, or before the next game (long before it starts.)

You can e-mail me at ajw4@cornell.edu to work out the details.

Thanks again.
                    Andy W.

A-ron

I was given a rather dirty look along witha stern "no way" when I asked the hat embroiderer in my mall for a harvard sucks hat...I didn't know that Harvard grads end up working at the mall.
http://www.funnyaaron.com">www.funnyaaron.com

nr53

maybe they were the one person to not graduate with honors...
'07

RazzBaronZ

If people just happen to make their own shirts or hats like I'm doing, we might have a few things with Sucks on them floating around (with no sales, so I doubt anyone would be held liable).  The ink I use can be applied straight to any surface (except nylon) with a paintbrush and then ironed on, which is even easier and more ghetto than the way I do it.  It's "SpeedBall fabric ink;" I found mine online, and it should be at AC Moore as well.

I don't how I'm distributing shirts until I hear from Cornell with its University Property form.  If anything's not OK'd, I will have to find a way outside of campus.  I don't really know how much IPD will care about sales of stuff in Ithaca, and I'll figure everything out once I hear back from Cornell and find out policies.

By the way, I just found out about the ink cracking on my friend's shirt today because you guys asked.  It's minor, but after some research online, I think I've figured out why it happens: I pre-washed the other shirts on which I'd been making prints.  Apparently not pre-washing makes the shirts shrink enough to crack the ink.  Still, when you guys do get the shirts it's best to wash them with the ink inwards (inside-out).  I'll try a few more shirts to make sure it isn't anything else (some people said applying ink too thick also makes it crack) before I make your shirts.

One more (semi-important) thing.  I just realized that the template I made for the Large shirts will probably be too small for the XXXL shirts (it'll look small).  I'll probably have to make another template (and that takes a little time, especially with tests in the way).  I'll try my hardest to make a larger version of both the front and back of the shirt for the larger shirts but it might take a bit longer, as I have to make 2 separate templates for the back, one for hockey sticks and one for the words, rather than the single one I'm currently using.  In summary: I might need a few extra days for anything over L or possibly XL if it still looks good.

-Alex Barash '07

sen '08

Do the hoodies have "Faithful 2005" on the back?

RazzBaronZ

Making a hoodie is the same as making anything else.  If anyone wants it custom (i.e. no print on the back, or switching the back and the front), I can definitely do that.  It's all handmade so I can make the text higher, lower, more to the side, leave out words, or anything else you can think of that would use the same templates.

I'm also considering putting something on the sleeves of long-sleeve shirts and possibly hoodies because I like when shirts have that.  Any ideas for the sleeve(s)?

-Alex