Cornell 4 MSU 2 post game-1 thread

[Jacob '06]

In reference to Barlow's misconduct, and the earlier argument, this is all in regards to a rule change this year. The referees don't have more discretion in this penalty, they actually have less. Any hitting from behind penalty this year that involves hitting someone into the boards is now automatically a 5 minute major and a 10 minute misconduct, with the referee able to call a game disqualification if it is severe. That being said, the argument on the first call was probably about the fact that the hit has to be into the boards for that to apply. If you hit someone from behind in open ice, the ref can still call a 2, 5, or dq at his discretion. I am assuming that was what Feola was showing Comley in the rule book.

[Cisco]

I think Jacob is correct about the consultation of the rule book. I've never seen that happen in a game, but a key piece of evidence, after the ref read the book for a few minutes, he signaled "2" with his hand as he skated over to the MSU ignorant ref.

He was signaling that the penalty was goign to stay at 2 for hitting from behind, which as Jacob correcly points out, is a much more rare penalty than the almost automatic 5+game.

[bigred06]

A reason why it was so empty at the beginning of the game was traffic for the townies. I sat in traffic for 15 minutes just from the entrence to the clock tower to Lynah rink.

[redhair34]

[Q]bigred06 Wrote:

 A reason why it was so empty at the beginning of the game was traffic for the townies. I sat in traffic for 15 minutes just from the entrence to the clock tower to Lynah rink.[/q]

Two words: Parent's Weekend (oh wait I think they call it "First Year Family Weekend"--make it 4 words)

[redhair34]

[Q]Drew042 Wrote:

 Great game last night; the crowd was as good as I have seen it in quite some time.  A few notes from where I was sitting in Section O (I know, I suck ):

*Barlow's penalty was at most a 2 min. minor; not sure if it was a make up call or not, but the timing was brutal.
*As per Freshman I was most impressed by Mugford and Barlow (before his early exit).  The play where Mugford outhustled 4 MSU players in the 3rd was quite impressive.  Barlow seems to have the makings of a larger Scott as he can skate well and seems to create situations for shots to be produced.  Seminoff took a fair number of penalties, but I think he will develop into a solid player as the year progesses.
*McKee was his usual self; esp. in the third with several outstanding saves.
*Overall I was impressed for the 1st game of the season.  They skated well; they started the rush well; O'Byrne only had 2 miscues with the puck that I noticed (and he even scored a goal).
*I thought the best players on the ice last night were McKee, Moulson; Miller for MSU was as advertised.  I thought that Sawada was especially a non-factor and he needs to step up his game now that Shane has left for greener pastures.  

See everyone tonight!!  LGR!!![/q]

I was also pretty disappointed with Sawada.  I don't think I saw him hit anyone in green in the second half of the game.  Although it's unlikely, perhaps Schafer asked him to tone it down a bit because of the tight officiating?  Regardless, I'm looking for him to back bounce and return to his normal hard hitting self tonight.  

As everyone has already said--unbelievable game.  I really saw the game turn about half way through the first period.  All of a sudden we started hitting guys and everything turned around.  I've heard Schafer say before that we are an average hockey team unless we play physical.  He hasn't been mentioned at all, but I thought Cam Abbott was the best player on the ice.  Although he may not have generated as many scoring opportunities as he did in the US under 18 game, his effort and scrappyness during 5x5 and especially on the PK seemed to fuel the team; you could really see the team feeding off his energy.  He was a constant nuisance for MSU backchecking and especially forechecking all night long and outworked every MSU player he was up against.  This was a prototypical Cornell grind it out work your ass off kind of game, and I thought it was Cam who lead the charge.

[calgARI '07]

Defensemen struggled a bit in front of their net, leaving guys open, and that led to both MSU goals.  It isn't exactly unheard of in the first game of the season, even for Cornell.  Carefoot really stood out to me in a positive way.  Chris Abbott and Pegoraro logged a ton of ice time and probably will in every game the team plays this season.  Seminoff really struggled in his first game and got very little ice time in the third period.  Was impressed with the other freshmen though.  A positive in Barlow not playing tonight is that we'll get a chance to see Kindret play.  Barlow has big time potential - sort of a cross between an Abbott and Vesce.
A lot of solid performances.  I was not at all impressed with Vicari and I think he was the difference in the game.  Otherwise I thought it was pretty even which is a positive for Cornell considering it was their first game.  

[redhair34]

Barlow got a DQ ?!?!?!  I thought it was just a game misconduct?

[RichH]

[Q]redhair34 Wrote:

 Barlow got a DQ ?!?!?!  I thought it was just a game misconduct?[/q]

It was indeed a Game Misconduct, not a DQ.  Barlow is eligible to play tonight.

http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0506/boxes/mcormsu1.o28
[Q] COR-10 Evan Barlow (10-Game Misconduct)[/Q]

[calgARI '07]

[Q]redhair34 Wrote:

 Barlow got a DQ ?!?!?!  I thought it was just a game misconduct?[/q]

I thought a DQ.  Maybe I heard wrong.

[calgARI '07]

And for everyone ripping on Section B for last week can be at ease because they and every other student section was unbelievable last night, moreso than any early reguar season game in memory.

[Will]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 And for everyone ripping on Section B for last week can be at ease because they and every other student section was unbelievable last night, moreso than any early reguar season game in memory.[/q]

It might be because last night was the first time I have seen the student sections from the other side of the rink, but I have to agree.  You guys were loud and made your presence known.  Great job.  Keep it up.

[redhair34]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 And for everyone ripping on Section B for last week can be at ease because they and every other student section was unbelievable last night, moreso than any early reguar season game in memory.[/q]

Agreed.  I thought the crowd was just a notch or so below the crowd at the second Clarkson playoff game last year.  I think the main noise difference between the two games was the townie side not matching their noise level from that Clarkson game.  When all of Lynah gets going together on a "let's go red" cheer, the place rocks--literally.

[nr53]

The only thing that slightly bothered me was how quiet everyone got after a MSU goal. In past years there would always be a "Lets go Red" cheer right afterwards to keep the crown noise up. I'm hoping that'll change tonight but if it happens again I may have to start my first cheer...

[calgARI '07]

Also should mention that the second powerplay unit was BRUTAL.  They could not get set up on any of their opportunities.  The first unit struggled their first few attempts but obviously got the hang of it by the O'Byrne goal where Scott, Moulson, and Pokuluk gained a lot more composure with the puck.  
I think it is going to take Sawada a little while to get accustomed to playing with a scoring line.  He did get off a big open ice hit in the first period but that was about it.  I think it's tough for players like Sawada to get into a groove in games when there are a lot of special teams situations, particularly PK where he doesn't play.  He is the kind of player who needs to see a regular shift to get into the flow of things.  

[Beeeej]

Yeah, I'll agree with that one - rather than start "Let's Go Red" it seemed like people just sat back and waited until it was appropriate to chant "Section O Sucks."  On their second goal I tried to get "Let's Go Red" started, and it carried for a few rounds, but that's it.  Your help would be appreciated.

Beeeej