[OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton

[Al DeFlorio]

Here:  http://www.syracuse.com/localcolleges/poststandard/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1114331781155070.xml&coll=1

Trenton Times web site has a headline ("Cornell romps Princeton") but the article is about P's women's lax team's loss to Dartmouth.

[ben03]

So with only a few weeks left in the lacrosse season here's what the NCAA's might look like after yesterdays results:

Automatic Qualifiers:*
Cornell (Ivy AQ)
Albany/Stony Brook (America East AQ)
Army/Navy (Patriot AQ)
Denver/Fairfield (Great Western AQ)
Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s (MAAC AQ)
Towson/Delaware (Colonial AQ)

At-large In:
JHU
Duke
UVA
Georgetown

At-large Likely:
Army/Navy
Syracuse
Dartmouth
Maryland
UMass

At-large long-shot fighting for the last spot
Bucknell
Penn State
Denver/Fairfield
Towson/Delaware
Albany/Stony Brook

Seeded something like this:
1. JHU
2. Duke
3. UVA
4. Cornell*

5. Georgetown
6. Navy*
7. Syracuse
8. Army

9. Maryland
10. UMass
11. Dartmouth
12. Towson/Delaware*

13. Albany/Stony Brook*
14. Denver/Fairfield*
15. Bucknell/Penn State et al
16.Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s*

Hillel, Al, Fred please feel free to correct any errors you see as my brain isn't up to speed ... b/c it's sunday morning ::nut::

[Tub(a)]

[Q]ben03 Wrote:

 So with only a few weeks left in the lacrosse season here's what the NCAA's might look like after yesterdays results:

Automatic Qualifiers:*
Cornell (Ivy AQ)
Albany/Stony Brook (America East AQ)
Army/Navy (Patriot AQ)
Denver/Fairfield (Great Western AQ)
Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s (MAAC AQ)
Towson/Delaware (Colonial AQ)

At-large In:
JHU
Duke
UVA
Georgetown

At-large Likely:
Army/Navy
Syracuse
Dartmouth
Maryland
UMass

At-large long-shot fighting for the last spot
Bucknell
Penn State
Denver/Fairfield
Towson/Delaware
Albany/Stony Brook

Seeded something like this:
1. JHU
2. Duke
3. UVA
4. Cornell*

5. Georgetown
6. Navy*
7. Syracuse
8. Army

9. Maryland
10. UMass
11. Dartmouth
12. Towson/Delaware*

13. Albany/Stony Brook*
14. Denver/Fairfield*
15. Bucknell/Penn State et al
16.Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s*

Hillel, Al, Fred please feel free to correct any errors you see as my brain isn't up to speed ... b/c it's sunday morning[/q]

So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?

[ben03]

[Q]Tub(a) Wrote:
So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?[/q]
the eight first round games are played at the higher seeds home site, may 14th and 15th. the following weekend of May 20-21 doubeheaders will be played at @ JHU and Princeton respectively. i'm not exactly sure on the seeding procedures, assuming the committee sticks to a traditional 1-16 bracket (and have shown no reason they wouldn't) ... yes, either JHU, Duke, UVA would in fact be forced to travel north to Princeton assuming of course they make it through the first round. :-)

[peterg]

[Q]ben03 Wrote:

 [Q2]Tub(a) Wrote:
So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?[/Q]
the eight first round games are played at the higher seeds home site, may 14th and 15th. the following weekend of May 20-21 doubeheaders will be played at @ JHU and Princeton respectively. i'm not exactly sure on the seeding procedures, assuming the committee sticks to a traditional 1-16 bracket (and have shown no reason they wouldn't) ... yes, either JHU, Duke, UVA would in fact be forced to travel north to Princeton assuming of course they make it through the first round.[/q]

Seems unlikely that the NCAA will send JHU north when they are a quarterfinal host.  

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]peterg Wrote:

 [Q2]ben03 Wrote:

 [Q2]Tub(a) Wrote:
So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?[/Q]
the eight first round games are played at the higher seeds home site, may 14th and 15th. the following weekend of May 20-21 doubeheaders will be played at @ JHU and Princeton respectively. i'm not exactly sure on the seeding procedures, assuming the committee sticks to a traditional 1-16 bracket (and have shown no reason they wouldn't) ... yes, either JHU, Duke, UVA would in fact be forced to travel north to Princeton assuming of course they make it through the first round.[/Q]
Seems unlikely that the NCAA will send JHU north when they are a quarterfinal host.  [/q]
I'm all but certain Hop would play their QF at Homewood, and I suspect they'll slot Navy there as well.  If Navy should get a #4 seed, I think they'd slot both UVA and Duke for Princeton's QFs.

My recollection is that the committee doesn't "seed" 9-16 according to regular-season performance but selects first-round pairings based on some mix of geography and something like "interesting matchups."  In particular, they don't seem to have any desire to avoid repeats of regular season games (e.g., Cornell-Hobart in the first round last year).  I don't think you'd see an Albany going to Duke or UVA for the first round, or a Towson to UMass or Syracuse.

[billhoward]

Awesome domination by Cornell. It could have been 25-4 or 25-3 (or if some shots went Princeton's way, 17-7). (It probably couldn't have been 25 since Princeton stopped at 19 againt Butler recently and there was a big deal made of the Tierney Humanitarian rule of scoring no more than 19 goals against the halt and lame. Heh, heh, shoe was on the other foot this game.)

Tambroni ran though a lot of players. In the West Stands, I worried for the health of the Big Red Pep Band having to play Davy so many times, especially in the second half when the sun came out and it started to get warm. That was a lot of trumpet-blowing. By the second half, all of us carrying two layers of Underarmor and rain gear started to perspire heavily. So much for AccuWeather's prediction of 8/10 inch of rain Saturday. All you really needed was a towel to wipe down the damp stadium seats.

Goaltending - skill or luck or both - was outstanding for Cornell. Every phase was great. Okay, Cornell threw away a couple passes and slowed up on a couple of fast breaks when they could maybe have gone straight to the cage. That's about it.

Huge turnout by the players' families and friends as well as students and what looked like some curious about-to-attend-Cornell HS seniors. Great to see Richie Moran there and cheering. Ned put the map on the wall, Richie put Cornell on the map (well, Ned did too), and even when RM was moved on from his position, he's still an incredible Cornell booster.

Not to kick the crutch from under a cripple but Princeton's road uniforms don't look that good. White with a little black and orange is okay, but black that sort of looks Brown, not the same thing.

Wish every game went this well.

[billhoward]

Just our luck to be seeded at Hopkins and JHU creating an Olympic width field for us.

[peterg]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 Just our luck to be seeded at Hopkins and JHU creating an Olympic width field for us. [/q]

They could keep us home and we could see SU again.

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
Not to kick the crutch from under a cripple but Princeton's road uniforms don't look that good. White with a little black and orange is okay, but black that sort of looks Brown, not the same thing.
[/q]
Watched a bit of the Princeton-Dartmouth women's game on the tube, and the women wear the same ugly unis.

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]peterg Wrote:

 [Q2]billhoward Wrote:

 Just our luck to be seeded at Hopkins and JHU creating an Olympic width field for us. [/Q]
They could keep us home and we could see SU again.[/q]
Army, Dartmouth, and Albany are other possibilities.  Or Bucknell if they win the Patriot League.

Barring the unforeseen, Cornell, UMass, and Syracuse are the "north's" best bets for 1-8 seeds.  UMass-Syracuse winner (game's at UMass this Saturday) should be a cinch.

[billhoward]

Just once it would be nice to see UMass go all the way (so long as it's not at Cornell's expense). That would really tick off the Johnny Red schools who think they invented and own the sport. He's been gone for a decade, but Dick Garber (now Greg Cannella) did a heck of lot for the sport and should have been rewarded with something more than a bunch of almost-did-it seasons. Come to think of it, the farthest north any NCAA champion has been is the Finger Lakes, at least since the days of the NCAA tournament (1971) and before then it was pretty much a round robin of voters who choose Hopkins or Maryland, Maryland or Hopkins, maybe Navy or NC once in a while to spice things up.

[Dpperk29]

The lax game today was awsome. I have been mildly interested in Lax for the last few years, but today I realized that it is the next best thing to Hockey. Which then brings the question... what are we going to do when Lax season ends? no hockey, no lax...

[Lauren '06]

[Q]Dpperk29 Wrote:

 The lax game today was awsome. I have been mildly interested in Lax for the last few years, but today I realized that it is the next best thing to Hockey. Which then brings the question... what are we going to do when Lax season ends? no hockey, no lax...[/q]
Make fun of baseball fans.

[Redscore]

I saw this link on Laxpower.  I apologize if the link doesn't click through correctly.  Please cut and paste if you have to because this is a must read.  What an amazing bunch of guys.  They make you incredibly proud to be Red fans.
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=80845