Lynah remodel - keeping up with the Joneses

[ben03]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:
More than anything, I would like to see some sort of renovations that would make section C a student section and therefore unify the entire side as students.[/Q]
key phrase: "some sort of renovations that would make section C a student section" ... without this clause it could never happen.
[Q]krose Wrote:
I've never understood why they put the boosters on the student side instead of on the townie side.  Clearly, they want a center-ice position, but why break up the student sections?  It's not like they stand up for the entire game.[/Q]
here's a little exercise that might help us understand why.
for the sake of argument let's assume (b/c I don’t know the real numbers) that sections C and M seat ~200 people; the students  pay ~$8/game while the general public is charged ~$15/game. This “switch” would cost athletics $1400/game and over a 15 game home schedule $21,000 in lost revenue/year. now you have to look at displacing those in section M in favor of the boosters. again, assuming for the sake of argument there is no difference in ticket price; you are reducing the capacity of "full paying" tickets by 200 seats. 200 seats x $15 game x 15 home games = $45,000/year in displaced or lost profit. as much as i agree i'd love to see a unified student section A-E/F … i'm fairly certain it’s not going to happen without someone giving athletics a check for $66,000 every year.
or the $8-10 M donation to add the seats on the west end of the rink.

[Q]RichH Wrote:
Amen, Ari.  This is something I can really get behind and would absolutely love to see.
However, this has been brought up before, and the general reaction from boosters has been "no way I'm giving up my center ice seats," which is precisely the same reaction from section M ticket holders when it's suggested to either move the boosters across the ice or flop the students to J-O.[/Q]
as much fun as a student section behind the opposing bench would be ... it's just not gonna happen.

just some thoughts :-)

[KeithK]

Your math isn't right.  Moving the boosters from C to M is a wash in terms of booster ticket sales.  It does replace townie seats in M with student seats in C, with the resulting loss in revenue.  But that assumes that making C a student section adds a student section to the rink.  It's much more likely that you would replace one student section on the east end with a townie section.  So no net loss in revenue.

It still won't happen of course.  They don't want to piss off the displaced townies in M or the boosters in C.  These people are much mroe likely to give money to the program outside of ticket sales than current students.

[ben03]

problem solved ... although, like you said, it still won't happen.
(btw ... the math is/was correct, the thought process was the problem)

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 I guess there are a couple options, but really, I think it would be unbelievable if they could get four or five straight sections of students.  It seems inevitable that at some point they will put seats in on scoreboard side.  That will be a good day just because they will be able to get more people in and hopefully join the student sections somehow.  [/q]

That's kind of like what BU did.  The band and student sections were on opposite sides of the ice at Walter Brown, with no seats on the end.  At Agganis, they're unified in one section behind the opponents' goal.

I think most of the Section C denizens on this board would be happy to see the section returned to the students if we were given the option of being grandfathered into our "seats" and expected to stand like everyone else.  (I'd much rather stand in section C than sit anywhere.)

[Cornell95]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 More than anything, I would like to see some sort of renovations that would make section C a student section and therefore unify the entire side as students.[/q]


It has been some time since I have made it to a game at Lynah... but would fans standing the whole time in Section C have any impact on the visibility from the press area as well?  I cant remember how raised they are...

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]Cornell95 Wrote:

 [Q2]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 More than anything, I would like to see some sort of renovations that would make section C a student section and therefore unify the entire side as students.[/Q]
It has been some time since I have made it to a game at Lynah... but would fans standing the whole time in Section C have any impact on the visibility from the press area as well?  I cant remember how raised they are...[/q]I don't think that is a problem. Some people in the top row stand.

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]krose Wrote:

 [Q2]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 More than anything, I would like to see some sort of renovations that would make section C a student section and therefore unify the entire side as students.[/Q]
I've never understood why they put the boosters on the student side instead of on the townie side.  Clearly, they want a center-ice position, but why break up the student sections?  It's not like they stand up for the entire game.

Kyle[/q]
I'd have to yield to anyone with better remembrance, but I think they were dividing the students up on purpose. Partially in response to the language, cheer issues.

[Josh '99]

[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:
I think most of the Section C denizens on this board would be happy to see the section returned to the students if we were given the option of being grandfathered into our "seats" and expected to stand like everyone else.  (I'd much rather stand in section C than sit anywhere.)[/q]I think the words I bolded are the key to why this wouldn't actually work.

[KeithK]

[q]I'd have to yield to anyone with better remembrance, but I think they were dividing the students up on purpose. Partially in response to the language, cheer issues. [/q]That's what I "remember" too, but I hesitated to mention it because C was a booster section when I first started going to games.

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

 [Q2]jtwcornell91 Wrote:
I think most of the Section C denizens on this board would be happy to see the section returned to the students if we were given the option of being grandfathered into our "seats" and expected to stand like everyone else.  (I'd much rather stand in section C than sit anywhere.)[/Q]
I think the words I bolded are the key to why this wouldn't actually work.[/q]

Most of Section C (those who wouldn't want to stand) could be moved over to the other side of the ice into seats with magic fingers.

[Rob NH]

[Q]ben03 Wrote:
as much fun as a student section behind the opposing bench would be ... it's just not gonna happen.

just some thoughts[/q]
The student section at New Hampshire's old Snivley Arena was behind the opposing bench,  it used to make life hell for the other team. If it got loud enough in there (as it often did) the players wouldn't be able to hear the coach yelling line changes, etc. and it would mess their whole game plan up. I remember hearing a story about the late Shawn Walsh calling a timeout following a UNH goal and not being able to communicate with his players circled right around him because of all the noise. Imagine how bad Nickerson would have had it if you guys were right behind him the entire game, it brings a smile to my face just thinking about it.

[RichH]

Problem is...the home bench is also on that side.

And with the student section near the penalty boxes, they were able to taunt Nickerson enough.  ;-)

Note: the winky face is to counteract the rolleyes no doubt coming my way from RichS.

[CowbellGuy]

[q]Bill Gates does not endanger America's highway safety buying a Porsche 959 that doesn't have 5 mph bumpers.[/q]
Nor his own, since you can't register or drive a 959 in this country.

(yeah, so I finally sucked it up and started reading this topic)

[Jim Hyla]

Well, the lastest renovation proposal that I've heard is to expand on the south side of the rink for new locker rooms, etc.. They would also redo the benches moving ours to the south side with the penalty box and keeping the opposition across the rink. They could add some seats, or stands if they are for students, at the top of those sections. No wrap arround on the west side.

Personally I hate the rinks with the opposite benches. I always think they are a bunch of losers trying to give themselves an edge that they can't get with their players or coaches. However, the 'gate rink is nice, since they give their opposition the advantage.:-)

[upperdeck]

the south side will happen soon, the outside wall is being moved so that it ends up even with the b-ball side.. havent heard about benches being moved..