Cornell-BC post mortem

[jtwcornell91]

Did the CSTV announcers mention the screw-ups with the penalty clock?  In both games there were occasions where the penalty clock didn't run although the game clock did.  At least in our game they caught it and "fixed" it by running the elapsed 12 seconds off the penalty clock and the game clock, but never put them back on the game clock (since it was in the 3rd period they were clearly remedying having screwed BC by giving us extra PP time but then screwed us by taking time off the game clock).  And in the first period, they took the wrong penalty off the board after BC's 5x3 goal:

    COR-1 Ryan O'Byrne (2-Holding) BC 1x1 1:14
    COR-2 Jeremy Downs (2-Interference) BC 1x2 2:01
    BC  1 - 0  6x4 PP  Dan Bertram (6) (Joe Rooney, Ned Havern) 2:40

After the goal, they let O'Byrne out of the box, but took Downs's penalty off the board, so
that Downs got out after 34 seconds rather than the 1:39 that it should have been.  They caught it and sent him back, but put something like 1:20 on the clock instead of 1:05, so BC got 15 more seconds of PP for free.  And who knows what they did with the game clock.

[atb9]

On CSTV they did mention there were problems with the clock but the announcers couldn't figure out exactly what was going on.  When we had the huge delay, no one knew what was going on but Greg correctly pointed out that it would calm us down and let us regroup.

Thanks for explaining what happened!

[Harrier]

He does not shoot from the high slot or even the slot because every time he does it is easily gobbled up.  He passes up a lot of shooting opportunities simply because he can't burn a netminder at this point in his young career.  Accuracy is not his necessarily his problem shooting, but the fact is he can't bury a shot from beyond the crease.

[Harrier]

"also, besides Moulson, who is our only sharpshooter, we play for the rebounds and deflections."

I would have to think that Hynes, Obyrne, Knopfli, Carefoot, Cook, and Abbott are all more than capable shooters.  They may not have the snipe and quick release that Molson posesses but are all good and getting better.

[atb9]

Pokuluk too but he's the one creating the rebounds and deflections!  :-)  (Side note: At the beginning of the season I was cold on Pokuluk because it seemed like he was dogging it a little bit behind the play...if you haven't noticed, I've become a big fan as I've watched him develop)

Sure they can shoot, they're D-I players.  But only Moulson can release an effortless shot off of his heels from the slot and hit the upper corner.  Hynes is a deflection guy and rebound guy but Bitz has allowed him to open up a little bit.  O'Byrne released a nice wrister yesterday but the BC goalie got caught leaning for a pass and was beat shortside.  It's like McKee giving up 5x3 and 5x4 goals...you can't fault him...but come on (Family Guy), feel for the post and make the shortside save!  ;-)  Ari was right on when he said that goalies think too much during odd man situations. (edit: maybe it wasn't Ari...I'm trying to find the post) (edit: yup, it was Ari) http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,48728,48737#msg-48737

Thanks for posting your views, Harrier!  It's good to hear from you!

[Bio '04]

I haven't noticed this mentioned yet, but it seemed like to me (and the others watching in DC) that O'Byrne's breakout that led to the shorthanded goal seemed so slow.  Where was BC during that play?

Also someone mentioned that there was an interview with Ned Harkness?  When did that happen?  I did notice the Hobey Baker feature before the game (much to the dismay of everyone at the sports bar because that was the one time they had the sound for CSTV going throughout the bar).

[Molly]

I'm assuming the interview with Ned Harkness was on audio.

[RichH]

The 2 things that bugged me most about the BC game (besides the general fact of getting beat on special teams play):

1) the 2nd BC goal.  The exact same play occurred about 20 seconds prior to the goal.  McKee made a shoulder save on the first one.  That the defense would allow the same player to be in the same spot receiving the same pass and still be on his feet and that wide open for the one-timer...  grr.

2) unforced errors on the breakout.  We looked petrified when there were any forecheckers in our own zone.  Sloppy, indecisive, and unconfident passing.  Yes, they were fast, but sheez.  When we were playing lights-out the first few games of the season, the standout part of the game was the efficiency CU got the puck through the neutral zone.

[atb9]

Yeah, the interview was over the radio and Greg said that the recording of the audio should be on the athletics website in a few days.  I missed it but I'm really excited to hear it.  Ned is hilarious!

[Cornell95]

I am still wondering when the coaching staff is going to get O'Byrne mentally to a place where he stops taking penalties at the beginning of periods (he put BC on the PP during the first 2 minutes of both the 1st and 2nd periods).  This has been a problem for him all season it seems, and as good as the Cornell PK is, when you face top 10 teams you cant put yourself a man down constantly (comment made without getting into my general impressions of the officating last night)

[atb9]

CSTV is replaying the game at 2pm this afternoon...I can't say I'll be watching it but it's another opportunity to see the game for those that missed it last night.

[Jordan 04]

[Q]Cornell95 Wrote:

 I am still wondering when the coaching staff is going to get O'Byrne mentally to a place where he stops taking penalties at the beginning of periods (he put BC on the PP during the first 2 minutes of both the 1st and 2nd periods).  This has been a problem for him all season it seems, and as good as the Cornell PK is, when you face top 10 teams you cant put yourself a man down constantly (comment made without getting into my general impressions of the officating last night)[/q]

Let alone the timing of penalties, the ones he takes seem to usually be dumb penalties.  Like wrestling an opponent down to the ground along the boards when you're right in front of the referee.  

[Bio '04]

Ah, thanks.  I must have missed the word "audio" when people mentioned Harkness' interview.

[billhoward]

We're seeing a lot of guilty-conscience penalties:  

- A marginal penalty (that might not be called) and the aggressor leaps back from the play, or looks at the ref for approval (or in denial), or holds his arms out in an "I didn't do it" gesture and to referees, as to cops, sometimes that looks like a guilty gesture.(One sees this also in soccer below the professional level with inadvertant handballs, where the player stops playing and makes it all the more obvious that he thinks he did something wrong. The ref may whistle the play based on the player reaction.)

- You get away with a borderline call and then - guilty conscience? sense of immunity? - you do something equally as bad or worse and get called for the second one. Or maybe you figure you were getting called for it so you may as well ride him completely off the play and it's the finishing shove that gets you penalized.

I bet the BC message board is talking about their dumb penalties, all, what, 12 of them. That's a lot, even discounting for a couple concurrent minors.

[Steve M]

I agree with you.  After watching Minnesota, Wisconsin, CC and DU on the Dish over the first couple months of the year, our passing looked extremely sloppy last night.  I hope it was due to rustiness from the 3 week layoff (first Cornell game I've seen this year), because if last night was indicative of the team's capabilities, the Big Red are sadly nowhere near national contenders this year.  Turning the puck over on a 5x3 PP with a minute to go to give up an ENG was awful.