This Week's Column is up

Started by calgARI '07, November 08, 2004, 02:59:03 PM

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Hillel Hoffmann

Ari,

Thanks for your hard work. Your pieces are clear, comprehensive, and well-informed. I wish there had been comparable resources when I was an undergraduate.

Josh '99

[Q]CowbellGuy Wrote:
 Whether or not that's true, he got a game DQ.[/q]Are you sure?  The box scores I've been able to find both say game misconduct:

http://cornellbigred.collegesports.com/sports/m-hockey/stats/110604aab.html
http://www.collegehockeystats.com/0405/boxes/mbrncor1.n06

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CowbellGuy

Sorry. My bad. I was talking about the Varteressian DQ from the Clarkson series last year. Got mixed up by KenP's comment. Yes, the Brown game was a game misconduct and Gleed will be available for the next game. Don't mind me...
"[Hugh] Jessiman turned out to be a huge specimen of something alright." --Puck Daddy

KeithK

Age is referring to Varteressian in the Clarkson playoff game last year, not Gleed on Saturday night.

Josh '99

Oops, my fault, I'm the one who got crossed up.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

atb9

Ari, any interest in explaining the Moulson slight?  It's as if you are suggesting that he is an assistant captain only because he scores.  Schafer sends out Knoepfli and Moulson to talk to the refs, not Iggy.  Feel free to take this private...I just thought this was something others might be interested in.
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calgARI '07

[Q]atb9 Wrote:

 Ari, any interest in explaining the Moulson slight?  It's as if you are suggesting that he is an assistant captain only because he scores.  Schafer sends out Knoepfli and Moulson to talk to the refs, not Iggy.  Feel free to take this private...I just thought this was something others might be interested in.[/q]

I am surprised that you or anyone would have taken it as a slight on Moulson when I never mentioned his name.  I wasn't suggested that Moulson shouldn't be or doesn't deserve to be an assistant captain, only that Varteressian deserves to be.  I don't know what happens inside the dressing room or on the bench so I can't speculate as to why Moulson is an assistant captain, although I am sure he does deserve it.  A guy like Varteressian is rare in that despite barely playing for two years, he stuck with it and finally made the lineup.  A lot of guys in his position at Cornell and any other program quit or transferred.  From Varteressian's position, I would have been somewhat disappointed at the prospect of not getting assistant captain after everything he has done to make the lineup, not to mention his leadership (or poor leadership depending on how you look at it) displayed against Clarkson in the playoffs when a Junior does receive the honor.

billhoward

Count me in, too, as being a mite confused by the line "captain Mike Knoepfli, assistant captain Mike Iggulden, and should-be assistant captain Paul Varteressian." If one can only have a captain and one or two assistants, then it sounds as if -- simple math here -- you're saying one of the three captains/asst. captains shouldn't be captain, and one might infer one of the existing three shouldn't have the C or A on his sweater.

If there's a chance a player such as Varteressian won't dress for some games, no matter how good the player's work ethic, no matter how charismatic a leader, that might be seen as a disqualifier to his captaincy.

calgARI '07

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 Count me in, too, as being a mite confused by the line "captain Mike Knoepfli, assistant captain Mike Iggulden, and should-be assistant captain Paul Varteressian." If one can only have a captain and one or two assistants, then it sounds as if -- simple math here -- you're saying one of the three captains/asst. captains shouldn't be captain, and one might infer one of the existing three shouldn't have the C or A on his sweater.

If there's a chance a player such as Varteressian won't dress for some games, no matter how good the player's work ethic, no matter how charismatic a leader, that might be seen as a disqualifier to his captaincy.
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Again, I was only implying that Varteressian is deserving of a letter based on what I have seen on the ice, nothing about Moulson or his worthiness.

billhoward

If you were picking captains from scratch, who would you like to see?

Josh '99

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:
I am surprised that you or anyone would have taken it as a slight on Moulson when I never mentioned his name.[/q]From your column:[q]Even though the Matt Moulson's, Shane Hynes's, Charlie Cook's, and David McKee's will get the lion's share of headlines, the Knoepfli's, Iggulden's, and Varteressians, the foot soldiers, are often the difference in hockey games.[/q]That does appear to be the only mention of Moulson in this week's column.  In any case, unless you meant that Varteressian should be an assistant captain at Charlie Cook's expense, it seems hard to not interpret your words as meaning that you believe Varteressian is more deserving than Moulson.  Which, of course, isn't necessarily a slight on Moulson, since it certainly could have been intended purely as a compliment to Varteressian, but you have to see that it could be read that way. [Q]billhoward Wrote:Count me in, too, as being a mite confused by the line "captain Mike Knoepfli, assistant captain Mike Iggulden, and should-be assistant captain Paul Varteressian." If one can only have a captain and one or two assistants, then it sounds as if -- simple math here -- you're saying one of the three captains/asst. captains shouldn't be captain, and one might infer one of the existing three shouldn't have the C or A on his sweater.[/q]You can have a captain plus three assistant captains, not two.  Iggulden plus Moulson plus Cook equals three.  Speaking of simple math.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
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calgARI '07

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

 [Q2]calgARI '07 Wrote:
I am surprised that you or anyone would have taken it as a slight on Moulson when I never mentioned his name.[/Q]
From your column:[Q2]Even though the Matt Moulson's, Shane Hynes's, Charlie Cook's, and David McKee's will get the lion's share of headlines, the Knoepfli's, Iggulden's, and Varteressians, the foot soldiers, are often the difference in hockey games.[/Q]
That does appear to be the only mention of Moulson in this week's column.  In any case, unless you meant that Varteressian should be an assistant captain at Charlie Cook's expense, it seems hard to not interpret your words as meaning that you believe Varteressian is more deserving than Moulson.  Which, of course, isn't necessarily a slight on Moulson, since it certainly could have been intended purely as a compliment to Varteressian, but you have to see that it could be read that way. [Q2]billhoward Wrote:Count me in, too, as being a mite confused by the line "captain Mike Knoepfli, assistant captain Mike Iggulden, and should-be assistant captain Paul Varteressian." If one can only have a captain and one or two assistants, then it sounds as if -- simple math here -- you're saying one of the three captains/asst. captains shouldn't be captain, and one might infer one of the existing three shouldn't have the C or A on his sweater.[/Q]
You can have a captain plus three assistant captains, not two.  Iggulden plus Moulson plus Cook equals three.  Speaking of simple math.[/q]

Well I guess I can see how it could be taken as such, but really I just meant that Varteressian is worthy of a letter, not necessarily at anyone's expense or that anyone that has a letter is not worthy of it.


CUlater 89

He can't make Varteressian a captain if he isn't sure that he's going to play every week, which was the case after last season (although the team votes, I believe the votes are steered a certain way).

atb9

Thanks for the responses to our prodding, Ari!  ;-)  I didn't qualify my question with a thank you because at that point I had only read the first paragraph before my question stopped me.  But I have gotten through it and it was fun to read, especially about Iggy, Glover and Krantz!  Where can I send questions?  :-)

We've got some possibly-cursed players, huh?  Does that count as anti-woofing?
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