Ticket Line

[J Sze]

Last year they did not check the names on the line numbers (if I remember correctly).  

[Mike Pandolfini]

I refer you to what we said last year on the forum.  I thought we were done with this shit already.  They tell the Sun early so that we can publish what happened the next day.  Here's the best part - the editors who get the information have free tickets in the press box already, so cutting would be entirely useless!

In addition, there are several members of this forum whom I KNOW were ACTUALLY guilty of line cutting last year.  It's amazing how the people who make the rules always do the best by them.  People in glass houses don't throw stones for a reason.  Let this be the end of it.

-Mike Pandolfini


Q]A-19 Wrote:

 they tell the sun so presumably some of the sports staff can flagrantly cut the line again. i speak from last year's experience only, as an individual in the group directly in front of these guys. i certainly do not condemn all sun staff, or even all sun sports staff. see:
 for reference
and  for discussion[/q]

[Jacob '06]

Yeah, checking the names kind of ruins the point of having 2 seats per line number. If the other person can't stay there in your place, one person gets stuck there the whole time and the other person doesn't really have to do any time in line. I don't see much point in checking the names, or at least as Keith said, you should be able to put 2 names per number.

[Will]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 Just read the article in the Sun today and I must say that I'm impressed with Gene Nighman, certainly more than I was last year.  The guy is taking a hard lining stance against a preline and is determined to do this thing fairly and efficiently.[/q]

Just to play devil's advocate here, Ari...had you had advance knowledge of when and where the line would form, and you had gone there to take a place on the preline, would you still be so against the preline?

[Pete Godenschwager]

Some line news:

http://cornellbigred.collegesports.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/092804aal.html

[calgARI '07]

[Q]Will Wrote:

 [Q2]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 Just read the article in the Sun today and I must say that I'm impressed with Gene Nighman, certainly more than I was last year.  The guy is taking a hard lining stance against a preline and is determined to do this thing fairly and efficiently.[/Q]
Just to play devil's advocate here, Ari...had you had advance knowledge of when and where the line would form, and you had gone there to take a place on the preline, would you still be so against the preline?[/q]

How I feel about it doesn't really matter.  The question is what's fair and what isn't, although that clearly usually doesn't matter.  The rules say no preline will be validated so again, it just doesn't matter how I feel.  The preline last year was different in that anybody could have gone down there and lined up in the preline.  Last night's preline was much more unfair because those who had the insider knowledge had a huge and unfair advantage.

[Will]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

How I feel about it doesn't really matter.  The question is what's fair and what isn't, although that clearly usually doesn't matter.  The rules say no preline will be validated so again, it just doesn't matter how I feel.  The preline last year was different in that anybody could have gone down there and lined up in the preline.  Last night's preline was much more unfair because those who had the insider knowledge had a huge and unfair advantage.[/q]

Actually, how you feel, and how everyone else feels, is exactly what matters when it comes to what's fair and what isn't.  It's just that subjective fairness may play little to no role in how procedure is determined and then executed.

I'm just curious as to how people would feel if they were in different situations.  For instance, does having insider knowledge into when and where the line would convene make someone more prone to thinking the preline is fair and just?  Does not being privy to that knowledge in advance make someone think the preline is unfair?  My guess is that what everyone thinks is fair and unfair is strongly determined by how close everyone is to the insider knowledge.

I should note that I'm not saying anyone is definitely wrong or right in this situation.  All I'm saying is, whatever happens, I hope I get good seats. :-D

[calgARI '07]

"All I'm saying is, whatever happens, I hope I get good seats."

AMEN.

I think this procedure can only be successful and fair if there is no insider knowledge prior.  Everyone should have an equal opportunity to be there on time.

[Jacob '06]

At this point i'm saying "I hope I get seats" Just being in the rink is good enough for me

[Marcin]

Hey, as long as I'm in Lynah I'll be happy.

[dodger916]

Athletics said they would release information through 3 channels: Big Red Bulletin, Web site and radio.  This was confirmed this evening.

I doubt athletics would tell the Sun in advance.  It makes no sense. Why would they risk being criticized by students for showing preference??  What would they gain??  And if someone on staff said athletics told them, I'd be suspicious....

Interesting fact I learned recently: the vast majority of Sun staff have little or no training in journalism.  This will influence the amount of faith I place in their reporting.

[KeithK]

[q]Interesting fact I learned recently: the vast majority of Sun staff have little or no training in journalism. This will influence the amount of faith I place in their reporting.[/q]Um, do you expect undergrads at Cornell to have completed Journalism School?

Dan Rather has plenty of training in journalism.  How much faith do you place in him?

[strixvaria]

You had faith in the Sun's reporting?

[calgARI '07]

There are suppossedly around 20 people waiting around outside Barton.  Could these be grad students?

[Jacob '06]

Or people that haven't read their email/press releases?