LeNeveu's GAA record in jeopardy?

[JordanCS]

I can't help but notice that Maine goaltender Jim Howard is coming awfully close to Dave's GAA record...he's at 1.27 right now, and with a few more 1 goal games could drop below 1.20.  How much would that suck to have his record only stand a year, after breaking one that stood for so long?  Especially since he's the second string goalie, only starting less than half of Maine's games.

Jordan

[Section A]

But HOW do you only win 8 of 14 games with a 1.27 GAA and a .949 save percentage?!

[Greg Berge]

A good way to start is to lose three 1-0 games: http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20032004&team=54&gender=m



Post Edited (03-02-04 06:31)

[billhoward]

If Jim Howard, no relation, gives up 2 goals in his next game, the average goes up about .07 to 1.35. If he gets one shutout and plays no more during the year, he'd finish around 1.18. He's played 14.2 games (852.19, 18GA) counting OT and each one goal game he plays in a 60-minute game drops his average roughly to 1.25, 1.23, 1.22. In the playoffs, except maybe in an early round, I don't think you'll see many one-goal-scoring opponents. First, they play a pair vs. BC this weekend. Maybe Howard can try his luck in one of those games.

Statistics are funny things. When you look at the Cornell stats alone, Todd Marr is listed higher because his average is 1.000% and 0.0 GAA.

Sheesh, that must be a bear for Marr, being a backup four years running. Brian Cropper must have thought it sucked being backup to Ken Dryden all those years, except in Cropper's case, he stuck around one more year and went 29-0. Dryden still gets credit for the 29-0 season as much as Cropper, of course.

[Al DeFlorio]

Bill Howard wrote:

Brian Cropper must have thought it sucked being backup to Ken Dryden all those years, except in Cropper's case, he stuck around one more year and went 29-0.

Cropper was backup to Dryden only in the 68-69 season (2-0 in five games).  He was #1 in the matchless 69-70 season and again in 70-71.

[billhoward]

You're right. I forgot that he ended his career as Dick Bertrand's player in the lost season of 1970-71, not as Dick Bertrand's teammate. At least he didn't have to suffer through 1972's horror of being up 5-2 on Wisconsin with 19 minutes to go in the NCAA semis and lose 6-5 in OT. I think that was the end of the Big Red dynasty.

[Al DeFlorio]

Bill Howard wrote:

At least he didn't have to suffer through 1972's horror of being up 5-2 on Wisconsin with 19 minutes to go in the NCAA semis and lose 6-5 in OT. I think that was the end of the Big Red dynasty.

That was 1973, but it was still a horror--and the end of the dynasty.  The 1972 team lost to BU in the finals.

[Greg Berge]

For those who want to relive it: http://members.cox.net/tbrw/boxScores/box19730316.html

[Josh '99]

Maine has two games coming up with BC this weekend.  That's been a good way to give up some goals this year.

[billhoward]

Heh! I'm off by about one year on every circa 1970 hockey event. Of couse, President Bush is having trouble accounting for a year of so of his life back then, also. I completely blanked on the BU - Cornell game. Shock does that to you. My partial recall is that year Cornell beat BU during the regular season, then BU turned the trick on Cornell come playoff time. Amazing how long that's been - why it seems like only yesterday BU was moving into a new arena, and now they're about to move into another new arena. Has anyone been to BU lately? I don't recall the fans filling Walter Brown, so I'm curious how many seats they'll now that it's nearly twice as big.

[jy3]

isnt there a minimum game total you need for your stats to be considered for records? ::help::

[Al DeFlorio]

Bill Howard wrote:

Heh! I'm off by about one year on every circa 1970 hockey event. Of couse, President Bush is having trouble accounting for a year of so of his life back then, also. I completely blanked on the BU - Cornell game. Shock does that to you. My partial recall is that year Cornell beat BU during the regular season, then BU turned the trick on Cornell come playoff time. Amazing how long that's been - why it seems like only yesterday BU was moving into a new arena, and now they're about to move into another new arena. Has anyone been to BU lately? I don't recall the fans filling Walter Brown, so I'm curious how many seats they'll now that it's nearly twice as big.

Time flies, whether you're havin' fun or not.

Walter Brown still doesn't fill frequently.  Suspect a new arena is necessary for the recruiting wars with UNH and BC.  As I recall, WB was built for basketball, not hockey--and still looks it.

[Greg Berge]

[q]isnt there a minimum game total you need for your stats to be considered for records?[/q]

collegehockeystats.com uses one-third of team's minutes as the baseline for category leaders, but I do not know if that's official.



Post Edited (03-02-04 10:49)

[Killer]

Al DeFlorio wrote:

Bill Howard wrote:

At least he didn't have to suffer through 1972's horror of being up 5-2 on Wisconsin with 19 minutes to go in the NCAA semis and lose 6-5 in OT. I think that was the end of the Big Red dynasty.

That was 1973, but it was still a horror--and the end of the dynasty.  The 1972 team lost to BU in the finals.

1973 was a horror, as was 1972's losses to BU at the ECAC and NCAA tourneys in the old Gahden (...da-da-da...SCREW BU!).  I still remember thinking we had it wrapped up against Wisconsin in the '73 semi, late in the game...until they tied it.  But even then, we had a 2-on-none breakaway in OT...and didn't convert.  Yeah, that pretty much ended that run of the dynasty.

[Killer]

I think the key is getting Howard some serious game time against BC this weekend.  Except for 2 SOs they suffered, BC has put in at least 2 goals in every game, albeit twice they needed OT t get the second goal.  And when they faced Howard earlier this season, they got 4.  Don't you think Jim deserves a chance to make up for that little blemish...maybe with another 4-goal loss?

These should be some exciting games, what with BC trying to regain the #1 ranking and Maine nipping at their heels.  I'd look for a split.  And let's hope that however it turns out, the Eagles give Jim one heck of an exciting evening.