Home or Away for the Playoffs?

Started by Killer, February 25, 2004, 04:39:15 PM

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calgARI \'07

Who was the #10 team that upset #1 team in 2001?  Forgot.

Will

QuotecalgARI '07 wrote:

Who was the #10 team that upset #1 team in 2001?  Forgot.

That was Vermont, toppling Clarkson.  In recent years, Vermont seems to enjoy upsetting Clarkson.

Is next year here yet?

Killer

QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:

Yes, the brackets reseed (as they have for decades).  So, the RS champ will host the worst seeded survivor of the First Round, and so on.


You'll have to excuse an oldtimer.  When I was there, I believe only 8 teams made the playoffs, and the quarters were only 1 game.  The best-of-three format came in later.  Can't remember if any re-seeding was done.

Al DeFlorio

QuoteKiller wrote:

QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:

Yes, the brackets reseed (as they have for decades).  So, the RS champ will host the worst seeded survivor of the First Round, and so on.


You'll have to excuse an oldtimer.  When I was there, I believe only 8 teams made the playoffs, and the quarters were only 1 game.  The best-of-three format came in later.  Can't remember if any re-seeding was done.
Take it from another old-timer:  re-seeding was done in the days of eight teams and one-blessed-game quarterfinals.  But there was a time in the '60s when it was not.



Post Edited (02-27-04 19:16)
Al DeFlorio '65

Jim Hyla

Ah yes, reseeding. The end all was 1980 when we won the ECAC as an eighth seed. We beat #1 BC, then #2 Providence, and finally #3 Dartmouth. No one can say we did it the easy way that year.

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Greg Berge

There is fixed bracket for sure through 1969, and reseeding for sure from 1973.  There isn't a way to determine between 1970 and 1972 from the results.


1964:

Quarterfinals
#1 Providence 3, #8 Colgate 2
#7 St. Lawrence 3, #2 Army 2
#6 RPI 3, #3 Boston College 2
#4 Clarkson 6, #5 Harvard

Semifinals
Providence 6, Clarkson 5
St. Lawrence 3, RPI 1


1968:

Quarterfinals
#1 Cornell 6, #8 Princeton 1
#2 Clarkson 7, #7 Brown 3
#6 Boston College 7, #3 St. Lawrence 6 (ot)
#5 Boston University 6, #4 Harvard 3

Semifinals
Cornell 7, Boston University 2
Boston College 6, Clarkson 5 (2 ot)


1969:
Quarterfinals
#1 Cornell 6, #8 St. Lawrence 0
#2 Harvard 4, #7 New Hampshire 3 (ot)
#6 Clarkson 4, #3 Boston College 2
#4 Boston University 4, #5 RPI 2

Semifinals
Cornell 3, Boston University 2 (ot)
Harvard 8, Clarkson 6


However, 1973:

Quarterfinals
#1 Cornell 9, #8 RPI 3
#7 Clarkson 7, #2 Harvard 2
#3 Boston College 4, #6 New Hampshire 2
#5 Pennsylvania 7, #4 Boston University 3

Semifinals
Cornell 9, Clarkson 3
Boston College 5, Pennsylvania 3



Post Edited (02-28-04 00:03)

Killer

QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:

There is fixed bracket for sure through 1969, and reseeding for sure from 1973.  There isn't a way to determine between 1970 and 1972 from the results.

OK, I went to the ECAC Hockey site.  Quite clearly, they spell out that there is re-seeding after the first and second rounds.  My confusion came from looking at the ECAC tournament schedule on the USCHO site.  They show fixed brackets with no re-seeding.  Of course, until I sent them a note and they fixed it, they also had last year's dates (e.g., March 7-9 for Round 1) posted.  I probably should have been suspicious then.

Thanks to those who cleared up the confusion.


jkahn

[Q]There isn't a way to determine between 1970 and 1972 from the results. [/Q]
However, I can state for sure that there was reseeding in effect in '72.  I remember after the game, standing by the radio announcer waiting for the Harvard-Clarkson overtime result as that would determine who we played. We were hoping to avoid having to play Clarkson, who we considered a much tougher opponent than UNH.

Jeff Kahn '70 '72

colo83

 
      Twenty-one  league games and positions 1-5 are still possible.  Amazing; just like an NBA  game (not that they're watched much in NH).

Killer

Quoteken stillman wrote:
      Twenty-one  league games and positions 1-5 are still possible.  Amazing; just like an NBA  game (not that they're watched much in NH).

It's hard to believe how much is still undecided with only one more RS game to go for everyone.

And it's killing me that I can't see or listen to any games tonight.  Thumbnail schmaltzy story: I'm taking my wife to see a singer we heard for the first time on a blind date 4 years ago.  Second time we saw her, at the same place about a year later, we got engaged.  Hard to pass up a chance to see her when she's nearby.  But I do score major points towards a road trip to Albany.:-)

Now, if only there were a call-in number to get updates and results, instead of having to wait for tomorrow's paper...  Is there one?

Go Red!!!


Ack

You could have someone who's listening to the game or watching the forum call you with a 2-second "[score/period/time]" when anything changes.

But do earn those points for Albany.



Post Edited (02-28-04 14:47)

Philip Finch \'85

You can get wireless updates on most cell phones from the collegesports.com website.  I believe this is the link:  

http://www.collegesports.com/wireless/

You can sign up there to receive updates if you have a cell phone.  They are usually pretty reliable, however, a couple of times this year they have sent the wrong score, showing Cornell losing, when they had actually won the game.  The final score usually is sent within an hour of when the game ends.

If you don't have a cell phone, or can't subscribe to the service for whatever reason, you can get scores from the Big Red Hotline 607-255-2385.  They are pretty good at updating the scores that night.

Killer

Thanks.  I'm going there to sign up right now.  But I'll keep that Big Red Hotline number handy as well.

Hey, if anyone wants to leave key updates on my voicemail, I'd love it.  Send me an e-mail and I'll give you my number.

BTW, I also gave up going to the Harvard-Dartmouth game tonight (to root for Harvard, for perhaps the only time in my life) for this one.  Definitely major points for the evening.;-)


dss28

I've found that the Yahoo updates are pretty good, too.

Greg Berge

Final RS league record:

6-3-2 Home (14 points)
7-3-1 Road (15 points)