Panoramic Photos of a Full Lynah?

[Richard \'70]

That is really great!  I'm going to  set it as the backgound on both my office and home computer.

[dss28]

I love that you captured "RED!"  Awesome touch.

[jy3]

that picture rocks, age. the others are great too guys

[Chris 02]

What a shot!  Those are fantastic.

[Section A]

Amazing. You should sell that as a poster or something!

[RedJeff20]

Age

That's a great shot.  How large do you think I could print it before it lost some quality?

Cheers,
Mike

[Greenberg \'97]

Not only did I set it as my background, I rearranged all my icons to the periphery.

Boy my wife is gonna have my ass....

[CowbellGuy]

Please don't print my photos. See what happens when I don't protect them?

[DisplacedCornellian]

[Q]Author: Cowbell Guy
Date:   03-02-04 10:04

Please don't print my photos. See what happens when I don't protect them?
[/Q]

People print them and put them on their walls?  Is that the problem, or are you more concerned with them showing up on webpages/in newspapers without giving you your due credit?  (not trying to be snooty or anything here, you do take great photos, just curious).

I do agree that it would be great if that photo could be blown up to a poster size.  It's a great shot.

[CowbellGuy]

Both, actually. As far as appearing on web pages, I don't generally mind as long as I'm credited properly, but I want to know when it happens. Very few web pages do more than cover their cost, at best, and I'm certainly not out to milk anyone.

Appearing in print is a very different issue. Magazines and newspapers, by and large, are revenue-producing entities and printing someone's photograph without permission is entirely illegal. Even when someone purchases the rights to reprint an image in a publication, on merchandise, etc. the original photographer still maintains the copyright on the image.

By that same token, someone making prints of my photos is illegal. Places like Ofoto actually take this seriously. When I started making prints through them, they wouldn't print my photos until I provided them with signed documentation that I was the owner of the images. Unfortunately other printers might be less scrupulous. It took literally years of failed attempts to come up with the method to protect the images that I'm using now on eLynah with Flash. And when I post a couple of unprotected pictures and get this kind of response, can you blame me?

Above and beyond the legality of it, if someone takes a low-resolution image I post on the web with considerable JPEG compression and makes a crappy looking print of it with my name in the corner, that reflects poorly on me. Like it says on eLynah, anyone can purchase prints of any of the images, and you can be sure it will be done right with full resolution, minimal compression images from the RAW NEF source, carefully cleaned up and professionally and legally printed by Kodak.

I'm happy to lug around $10,000 of camera equipment to the rinks and spend hours processing the images that can be viewed for free on the website, but please have a little consideration.

[KenP]

Age,

Have you thought of a shopping cart area where people could select the image, desired size, framing if any, cost, etc., and purchase your photos online?

[DisplacedCornellian]

ahh..so there IS a legal method of getting prints.  :-)  I was unaware of that.

I can see where you're coming from.  You do great work with the photos, and I'm sure I speak for all e-lynah posters (and probably the lurkers too...) when I say we greatly appreciate it.

[CowbellGuy]

Aside from the work of setting up the e-shop stuff, that would require having fully cleaned up versions of every image ready to go. When someone wants a print, I go back and pull out the original RAW image and clean it up manually. The ones on the webpage are fairly crudely processed in comparison, and my process is constantly improving (compare even images from early last year compared to the most recent ones). Also, there simply hasn't been much demand for prints, so it's not real high on my priority list. One of my zillion projects is a new image gallery for SalsaShark.net that incorporates subscription-based viewing of images and automatic ordering of prints, but that's still a ways off. (And don't worry, eLynah's not in danger of going to subscriptions. Donations were very generous this year. Thank you to everyone who helped out.)

People are weird about photographs. People would never think to make a copy of a sketch or an art print and frame it, but if a photo appears anywhere on the net, they think it's fair game for anything they want to do with it. I was at Watkins Glen for the vintage races this year and there was this guy with mediocre prints that went straight from his camera to Wal-Mart for printing. He couldn't sell the prints fast enough. If some guy's car left a puddle of oil in the corner of the image, they had to have a copy. I came home with 1300 images, went through them all and cleaned up the good ones, had a bunch published on motorsport.com, and to this day, six months later, I still get e-mails from car owners saying how wonderful the photos are and ask if I have any more I can send them. I have yet to hear back from a single one of them when I offer to print photos. And these are guys racing cars worth hundreds of thousands of dollars for fun. I guess since it appeared on a website, they don't feel like they need to pay for it. I dunno.

[CowbellGuy]

DisplacedCornellian wrote:
ahh..so there IS a legal method of getting prints.  :-)  I was unaware of that.

It's just a small line at the bottom of the index pages with the thumbnails. I figure if people want them, they'll e-mail me for more information. I've already gotten lambasted for over-advertising SalsaShark.net around here, so I try to be relatively unobtrusive about it.

By the way, if there are player parents reading, this doesn't apply to you. You can have jpegs, prints, or whatever you want on me. It just might take a while (as some of you already know... sorry :-/ )

[Chris 02]

Age,

If you were to setup an e-shop for selling Cornell Hockey photos, would there be rights issues that you'd have to settle with Athletics?  For instance, having the Cornell logo appearing on the players' jerseys?