FISH

[Ack]

Good point, and most anything Schafer says, we'll follow.

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]HOTELCALIFORNIA wrote:
LANGUAGE: Like I said, Lynah Rink is a public place. Kinda like going to the mall. There should be free speech, like anywhere else in this country.[/Q]But, in general, malls are not public places. For the most part they are considered private property, and speech can be, and is restricted. Pyramid Cos. has gone so far as to restrict children on Fri. and Sat. night to coming to Carousel Mall with adults only. (Now how would that be, you can't go to Lynah except with your parent....just kidding, just kidding....I don't want to start another war.:-)  )

Let me propose another idea. Coach does really want the language cleaned up. He has been quite clear about that. However, he's not been as vociferous about the fish, except not wanting a penalty. Does anyone really think we don't get criticized by H****D for the fish. And don't we have to come up with some answer. Maybe, just maybe, we have to say things to show our concern, hoping we can keep the fish controlable, and then just getting on with it.



Post Edited (12-07-03 17:46)

[beanmaestro]

Is there a good reason Schafer couldn't arrange for the rink staff to be told:
"If they get the fish past the door 'coat check', throw it at the right time, and only hit the ice or Mazzolini, leave them alone"?

It sounds like someone in the Athletics Dept bureaucracy made this decision, and no one has bothered to override it.  It ought to be reasonably easy to get someone to change this policy if you ask the right people and get the coach to agree.



Post Edited (12-07-03 18:37)

[Nate 04]

[Q]Is there a good reason Schafer couldn't arrange for the rink staff to be told:
"If they get the fish past the door 'coat check', throw it at the right time, and only hit the ice or Mazzolini, leave them alone"?[/Q]

I agree.  Fish throwing is fun, harmless for the most part and one of the things that gets Cornell in the papers around area and maybe in magazines like Sports Illustrated.  Isn't it a good thing to have the university name out there in the media?  I'm sure any recruit who came to a game against harvard and saw how great it could be to be on the team not having fish thrown at them would love to come here and play for the Big Red.

On the language.  The more I listen to past students and hear how cheers used to be, I wish it more like that.  Two cheers I wish were back: when a player gets a penalty, loudly and with a lot of emphasis yell "YOU YOU YOU" at the guilty player and when scoring a goal, counting each goal slowly and with emphasis instead of the quick count we have now.

[dss28]

UNH did a really looooong goal count (that started to really piss me off, but I suppose that's the point... grr) where they'd hold up the number of goals they had and swirl their hands around their heads.  Don't know how long they they decide to go before stopping the swirling, but I suppose it has to do with how many goals they scored.

[jtwcornell91]

dss28 wrote:

UNH did a really looooong goal count (that started to really piss me off, but I suppose that's the point... grr) where they'd hold up the number of goals they had and swirl their hands around their heads.  Don't know how long they they decide to go before stopping the swirling, but I suppose it has to do with how many goals they scored.

BU has a thing like that, where they spin their hands over their heads once per goal, with sieves in between and a sieve chant at the end.  Nicely annoying, because it gets longer the more they score. :-D :-(

[dss28]

Yeah, I remember wanting to drop kick those U-H-N fans in Woostah....

Hehe... I still think that was one of the funniest things I've seen -- the UNH fans misspelling their own school... is the guy who yelled "HEY!  DID YOU GET 6 CREDITS FOR THAT ART PROJECT?!" a poster here?

[Beeeej]

That would be me, and thank you.  :-{)}

[dss28]

Classic.  I still remember that 2 years later. :-D

[LynahFaithfulS]

Adam Brown '03 wrote:

um, drugs are bad, mmmmkay?

what is this in reference to?

[Alan Gura 92]

The rink police were out of control last night.

I sat in Section O (sucks).  Before the game, a woman with some small children, including a very little girl on her shoulder, came by with some stuffed toys to throw over the rink.  The little girl could barely drop the toys over the rink.  When she dropped the toys on the floor, someone would pick them up and hand them to her and eventually this girl was able to place maybe four or five stuffed animals on the ice.   It was exactly the touching kid-friendly Hallmark moment that this toy drive was doubtless designed to create.

As this little toddler was trying to place toys on the ice, a nasty old rink official came by and yelled -- yelled -- at the woman and her child, threatening to throw them out if they threw anything out on the ice during the game.  It was horrible.  

Later in the game, a police officer came by and told three girls sitting in front of me to cover up their shirts or leave.  The shirts read "Fuck Harvard."  Now, granted, these shirts are inappropriate in a kindergarden and may even be in poor taste, but this is still a university campus.  To his credit, this cop was nice about it.

The authorities definitely had an itchy finger on the eject button.  Some of these guys have probably not removed the buckles from their hats and don't belong in a hockey game.  After the game they probably went around area pre-schools telling kids there's no santa clause and candy is bad for them.

Overall, the toy thing was lame.  Bring back the fish.

[Ben Doyle 03]

just a guess ... South Park? ::screwy::

[Keith K \'93]

The school pretty much has to at least pretend to search for fish.  Throwing stuff on the ice is technically against NCAA rules, so they can't officially accept the practice.  Plus, I'd say the search process makes the point that this is not generally something that people should do (on other nights), so it would serve a useful purpose even if it were done with a knowing wink.

Besides, walking in with fish blatantly in your hand would take a lot of the fun out of the tradition.  Hiding the fish is part of the fun.

[Keith K \'93]

Sounds like the cop did exactly the right thing.  Shirts saying F Harvard are totally inappropriate, but he gave them the chance to comply without getting nasty.

[jtwcornell91]

Keith K '93 wrote:

The school pretty much has to at least pretend to search for fish.  Throwing stuff on the ice is technically against NCAA rules

Unless you have a guy drive out in a mini-zamboni (sorry, Mav-boni) and scoop it up, apparently. ::rolleyes::

Besides, walking in with fish blatantly in your hand would take a lot of the fun out of the tradition.  Hiding the fish is part of the fun.

Kind of like if they let you walk out of the dining hall with a tray under your arm?