Cornell 3 Nebraska-Omaha 2, 1/3/26

[stereax]

My point is: scoring depth makes a team great, and this year's team has a lot of room to improve in that regard. A "checking line" is a bug, not a feature. I count only 7 forwards on our current roster who are contributing offensively. Really need to get Devlin, Kraft, DeSantis going, but even that only gets us to three full lines who can score. Pirtle scored a lot in junior hockey, would be nice to see more of him.


I agree to a point on this - IMO, Kraft's contribution to the team goes well beyond scoring and is often underrated due to the lack of scoring. He does the dirty work, battles for the puck and sets up plays. Feisty bugger

Devlin has greatly improved, especially since he hadn't played last year but hasn't scored much, I agree

DeSantis has ups and downs and is due for a scoring run, hopefully sooner rather than later

Kraft does a lot that doesn't show up on the scoresheet. Devlin too, to a degree. I think especially for Kraft the points WILL come.

DeSantis is streaky. When good, you get him at PPG, other times he can't hit the broad side of a barn...

Pirtle has scored pretty consistently when he's been in the lineup. I think 5 points in 7 games?

[The Rancor]

That's the thing about scoring. If it was so easy, everyone would do it .
As it stands, after 13 games, only 4 skaters have zero points, three of them have skated one game only. We don't have a blue chip super star, and the scoring is pretty spread around.
Ryan Walsh has nearly an identical stat line as Gavin McKenna, who's going number 1 in the draft (maybe). If I told you that at the beginning of the season, you wouldn't put a dime on that bet. I'll take my chances with Walsh and his extra inch and 25 pounds of grit.

[ugarte]

Ryan Walsh has nearly an identical stat line as Gavin McKenna, who's going number 1 in the draft (maybe). If I told you that at the beginning of the season, you wouldn't put a dime on that bet. I'll take my chances with Walsh and his extra inch and 25 pounds of grit.

in college? sure, i can see it. but in the draft!?

[marty]

... with the ultimate goal of rolling four lines who can score.

Realistically, does anyone, anywhere have this? Yes, better is better but it's also tautological.

I'm not familiar enough with other teams to say. But Cornell itself had this in 2019-20 as noted above.

again, somewhat tautological that the #1 team in the country will have outlier features. I agree that Cornell should take your advice to "be great".

I hope Casey reads this.  I'm sure he never thought about getting production from everyone in the lineup. 

[BearLover]

... with the ultimate goal of rolling four lines who can score.

Realistically, does anyone, anywhere have this? Yes, better is better but it's also tautological.

I'm not familiar enough with other teams to say. But Cornell itself had this in 2019-20 as noted above.

again, somewhat tautological that the #1 team in the country will have outlier features. I agree that Cornell should take your advice to "be great".

I hope Casey reads this.  I'm sure he never thought about getting production from everyone in the lineup. 

You have major reading comprehension issues and it's kind of weird that you log on to this forum and do nothing except try to crap on my posts

[marty]

... with the ultimate goal of rolling four lines who can score.

Realistically, does anyone, anywhere have this? Yes, better is better but it's also tautological.

I'm not familiar enough with other teams to say. But Cornell itself had this in 2019-20 as noted above.

again, somewhat tautological that the #1 team in the country will have outlier features. I agree that Cornell should take your advice to "be great".

I hope Casey reads this.  I'm sure he never thought about getting production from everyone in the lineup. 

You have major reading comprehension issues and it's kind of weird that you log on to this forum and do nothing except try to crap on my posts

I'll try to do better coach.

[Trotsky]

DeSantis is streaky. When good, you get him at PPG, other times he can't hit the broad side of a barn...

It's possible DeSantis seems more streaky and volatile because his plays tend to be "hero plays."  If they work out, amazing, but if not there's not another guy there for the drop pass or the rebound.

I don't know if that's true, but there have been guys in the past it seemed to be the case with.

I will take the team we have right now for a good balance of skill, style, grit, perseverance, strength, and ice vision.  Feels kinda like the most successful teams are the ones with the "best weakest" score among those, because a good opponent and good coach will find that weakness and bore into it.

[Trotsky]

I'll try to do better coach.

Forget it, Jake.  It's BLtown.

[Dafatone]

... with the ultimate goal of rolling four lines who can score.

Realistically, does anyone, anywhere have this? Yes, better is better but it's also tautological.

I don't think even the heavyweight programs this year have four scoring lines. Besides, you do kinda want a shutdown/checking line, if only to match up against harder competition and give your other guys a break.

If you can have 7 or so forwards that are a scoring threat, and even 2 D, you're in a good spot. Part of the game involves not being scored on.

7 and 2 is much too low IMO. Really need at least 9 and 3, and that's not even counting guys out to injury (of which we currently have none). That way, we can roll 3 full lines that can score and 3 D pairings with one major threat to score. We can also have one checking line and complement each offensive D with a defensive D.

The best way to not be scored on is to possess the puck in the other team's offensive zone.

I'm not a huge NHL analytics knower, but as I understand it, one attempt at coming up with a WAR for NHL measures offense, defense, and finishing.

I like this distinction between offense and finishing. All four of our lines seem pretty good at "offense": getting the puck into the offensive zone and generating chances. It's the finishing, as in turning those chances into goals, where we don't quite have the results through all four lines.

That being said, we just scored 9 goals this past weekend (admittedly against a team that wasn't exactly playing defense), so we are scoring.

[The Rancor]

Ryan Walsh has nearly an identical stat line as Gavin McKenna, who's going number 1 in the draft (maybe). If I told you that at the beginning of the season, you wouldn't put a dime on that bet. I'll take my chances with Walsh and his extra inch and 25 pounds of grit.

in college? sure, i can see it. but in the draft!?

Well, yes. College, probably not the draft.

[marty]

I'll try to do better coach.

Forget it, Jake.  It's BLtown.

Exactly. 

[marty]

I'll try to do better coach.

Forget it, Jake.  It's BLClown.

Exactly.

FMP

[BearLover]

I'll try to do better coach.

Forget it, Jake.  It's BLClown.

Exactly.

FMP

Your posts are written in the style of a fifth grader who sneaks onto his parents' desktop computer while they're out of the house and starts harassing some random guy on an Internet forum (almost all of your prior 50 posts on ELynah are ten words or less and half of them are harassing me).

I don't know how old you are but your posting style is really cute, it's a lot like mine in the early days of the internet before I graduated elementary school.

[billhoward]

In an extension of Mike Schafer's three decades of strategy, Cornell in Casey Jones' first dozen games is also winning by not letting the opponent score enough to win. Of all RS games through Nebraska-Omaha, for Cornell:

2 goals enough to win 5 games of the 13 we played
3 goals enough to win 3 more games
4 goals needed to win no games
5 goals needed to win 1 more game

In the losses we would have needed to score 5 (Clarkson), 3 (UMass), 3 (Dartmouth) and 3 (BU). And we have reasons excuses: @Clarkson was Casey's return to the school he left, @UMass was Cornell's first RS game and UMass eighth game, and BU was a good, so was Dartmouth good and also we in recent years have underperformed in Hanover.

Who wouldn't want four very good scoring lines? "Checking line" may be a euphemism for players who can't score but it may also be a sound strategy for players who can disrupt an opponent's great scoring line and the opponent has no second/third line that approaches the first line, the checking line is use to not tire out our first line.

See the ECAC standings: Princeton (OMG, in first place, run by Ben Syer after 13 years at Cornell), Dartmouth and Cornell, then Quinnipiac are at 19-18-18-17 points and Harvard 2 points back, nobody else above 12. This is a very good start for a team with so many freshmen.

[marty]

I'll try to do better coach.

Forget it, Jake.  It's BLClown.

Exactly.

FMP

Your posts are written in the style of a fifth grader who sneaks onto his parents' desktop computer while they're out of the house and starts harassing some random guy on an Internet forum (almost all of your prior 50 posts on ELynah are ten words or less and half of them are harassing me).

I don't know how old you are but your posting style is really cute, it's a lot like mine in the early days of the internet before I graduated elementary school.

Thank you!