Opponent and other news and results 2025-2026

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Iceberg

Quote from: stereax on January 28, 2026, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: underskill on January 28, 2026, 09:29:25 PMHe's taking FMLA leave per CHN
Starting Feb 20. And then when he comes back, will be "transitioning" into a new role in athletics and they'll be looking for a new HC.

Overdue. Brown has needed a new HC for a while but they may actually get someone much better (i.e. Gaudet for Cashman at Dartmouth)

The Rancor

2 winning seasons, never an in conference winning record, is a pretty wild stretch for 16 seasons.

adamw

Quote from: Iceberg on Today at 07:15:16 AM
Quote from: stereax on January 28, 2026, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: underskill on January 28, 2026, 09:29:25 PMHe's taking FMLA leave per CHN
Starting Feb 20. And then when he comes back, will be "transitioning" into a new role in athletics and they'll be looking for a new HC.

Overdue. Brown has needed a new HC for a while but they may actually get someone much better (i.e. Gaudet for Cashman at Dartmouth)

Not sure Cashman has yet proven to be better than Gaudet.
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BearLover

Quote from: adamw on Today at 09:37:42 AM
Quote from: Iceberg on Today at 07:15:16 AM
Quote from: stereax on January 28, 2026, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: underskill on January 28, 2026, 09:29:25 PMHe's taking FMLA leave per CHN
Starting Feb 20. And then when he comes back, will be "transitioning" into a new role in athletics and they'll be looking for a new HC.

Overdue. Brown has needed a new HC for a while but they may actually get someone much better (i.e. Gaudet for Cashman at Dartmouth)

Not sure Cashman has yet proven to be better than Gaudet.
Wut. In 23 years at Dartmouth Gaudet never made the NCAA tournament and never even made it to the ECAC final.

Beeeej

Quote from: The Rancor on Today at 08:58:31 AM2 winning seasons, never an in conference winning record, is a pretty wild stretch for 16 seasons.

Six winning seasons in forty-five years. Last NCAA tourney appearance thirty-three years ago. I really don't think they care much about the program, or they'd put more resources into it.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

ugarte

Quote from: ugarte on January 27, 2026, 03:50:12 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 27, 2026, 03:37:20 PMI've also yet to see an explanation provided for where the money would be coming from. Take Cornell for example. We do not have NIL or rev share, but let's imagine a world where tomorrow the Ivy League opts into the House settlement (so Ivies can rev share), and also Cornell goes ahead and sets up an NIL fund that donors can contribute to. That in itself changes absolutely nothing. That's because Cornell athletics runs at a deficit, and Cornell hockey itself already uses every donation it gets just to sustain its facilities, recruiting, etc. So you would need huge ongoing donations on top of all that to pay players. That's life for almost every non-power 5 school in the country, and even the power 5 schools are resorting to measures such as jacking up ticket prices just to keep up with football rev sharing. Money doesn't grow on trees and NIL/rev share funding doesn't either.
Just as a thought experiment, I think the answer may lie in how direct an impact your money is going to have. In other words, some well-heeled donors may be more willing to buy a five-star recruit than they are to throw cash into the fungible pot of money that Cornell, Athletics or the hockey team get to distribute. Friedman bought a wrestling facility with his name on it, donors are enticed by having their names on endowed positions. You're targeting a very specific class of donor when you ask them to jump in the NIL game.
For an idea of NIL in a sport that isn't football or basketball, Bill helpfully linked to a story I was going to put here in the wrestling thread. An elite 125 pounder who had committed to Cornell "pulled his committment" - though it is generally believed that his gap year grades at FLCC weren't good enough for Admissions. After reopening his recruiting, he stayed near home, at Rutgers, for $200K a year.  So, yes, I assume there is a lot of hockey NIL money floating around even if the public information is sparse.

marty

Quote from: ugarte on Today at 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: ugarte on January 27, 2026, 03:50:12 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 27, 2026, 03:37:20 PMI've also yet to see an explanation provided for where the money would be coming from. Take Cornell for example. We do not have NIL or rev share, but let's imagine a world where tomorrow the Ivy League opts into the House settlement (so Ivies can rev share), and also Cornell goes ahead and sets up an NIL fund that donors can contribute to. That in itself changes absolutely nothing. That's because Cornell athletics runs at a deficit, and Cornell hockey itself already uses every donation it gets just to sustain its facilities, recruiting, etc. So you would need huge ongoing donations on top of all that to pay players. That's life for almost every non-power 5 school in the country, and even the power 5 schools are resorting to measures such as jacking up ticket prices just to keep up with football rev sharing. Money doesn't grow on trees and NIL/rev share funding doesn't either.
Just as a thought experiment, I think the answer may lie in how direct an impact your money is going to have. In other words, some well-heeled donors may be more willing to buy a five-star recruit than they are to throw cash into the fungible pot of money that Cornell, Athletics or the hockey team get to distribute. Friedman bought a wrestling facility with his name on it, donors are enticed by having their names on endowed positions. You're targeting a very specific class of donor when you ask them to jump in the NIL game.
For an idea of NIL in a sport that isn't football or basketball, Bill helpfully linked to a story I was going to put here in the wrestling thread. An elite 125 pounder who had committed to Cornell "pulled his committment" - though it is generally believed that his gap year grades at FLCC weren't good enough for Admissions. After reopening his recruiting, he stayed near home, at Rutgers, for $200K a year.  So, yes, I assume there is a lot of hockey NIL money floating around even if the public information is sparse.

And if it's something other than $200K no one cares.  At least almost no one.  And no one is entitled to that knowledge.  Most understand this - but sadly not all.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

RichH

Quote from: Beeeej on Today at 10:30:57 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on Today at 08:58:31 AM2 winning seasons, never an in conference winning record, is a pretty wild stretch for 16 seasons.

Six winning seasons in forty-five years. Last NCAA tourney appearance thirty-three years ago. I really don't think they care much about the program, or they'd put more resources into it.

1993. Brown made the NCAAs. Cornell lost 11 straight and missed making the ECAC playoffs. (Fun fact, Cornell was one of two teams in the nation to win their final game that season.)

My freshman year. What an impression, but I was still a lifer after that. I'm so glad that was the upside-down season and not the norm.

It's funny, Brown is the one ECAC team I couldn't name the head coach before today. And he's been there for 17 years. (Wait, it's not Roger Grillo??) Some nights at Meehan it seems the majority of Brown students at the game are sitting on the bench.

Beeeej

Quote from: RichH on Today at 02:58:10 PM1993. Brown made the NCAAs. Cornell lost 11 straight and missed making the ECAC playoffs. (Fun fact, Cornell was one of two teams in the nation to win their final game that season.)

My freshman year. What an impression, but I was still a lifer after that. I'm so glad that was the upside-down season and not the norm.

It's funny, Brown is the one ECAC team I couldn't name the head coach before today. And he's been there for 17 years. (Wait, it's not Roger Grillo??) Some nights at Meehan it seems the majority of Brown students at the game are sitting on the bench.

Remember back when you couldn't make the playoffs just by submitting 29 starting lineups and going for a smoke?

Some nights at Meehan it seems like it must be at close to 10% of its 3,100-seat capacity, but only because there's always a few dozen little kids running around quickly enough to look like a slightly bigger crowd of little kids.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

RichH

Quote from: Beeeej on Today at 03:02:59 PMRemember back when you couldn't make the playoffs just by submitting 29 starting lineups and going for a smoke?


As long as your players don't emulate baby elephants.

stereax

Quote from: Beeeej on Today at 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: RichH on Today at 02:58:10 PM1993. Brown made the NCAAs. Cornell lost 11 straight and missed making the ECAC playoffs. (Fun fact, Cornell was one of two teams in the nation to win their final game that season.)

My freshman year. What an impression, but I was still a lifer after that. I'm so glad that was the upside-down season and not the norm.

It's funny, Brown is the one ECAC team I couldn't name the head coach before today. And he's been there for 17 years. (Wait, it's not Roger Grillo??) Some nights at Meehan it seems the majority of Brown students at the game are sitting on the bench.

Remember back when you couldn't make the playoffs just by submitting 29 starting lineups and going for a smoke?

Some nights at Meehan it seems like it must be at close to 10% of its 3,100-seat capacity, but only because there's always a few dozen little kids running around quickly enough to look like a slightly bigger crowd of little kids.
Thank fuck Lynah will (hopefully) NEVER be like that.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

abmarks

Quote from: RichH on Today at 03:08:16 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on Today at 03:02:59 PMRemember back when you couldn't make the playoffs just by submitting 29 starting lineups and going for a smoke?


As long as your players don't emulate baby elephants.

Do I detect a veiled Vermont reference? Lol

Beeeej

Quote from: abmarks on Today at 03:15:10 PM
Quote from: RichH on Today at 03:08:16 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on Today at 03:02:59 PMRemember back when you couldn't make the playoffs just by submitting 29 starting lineups and going for a smoke?


As long as your players don't emulate baby elephants.

Do I detect a veiled Vermont reference? Lol

"Veiled"? No.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

BearLover

Quote from: marty on Today at 01:32:25 PM
Quote from: ugarte on Today at 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: ugarte on January 27, 2026, 03:50:12 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 27, 2026, 03:37:20 PMI've also yet to see an explanation provided for where the money would be coming from. Take Cornell for example. We do not have NIL or rev share, but let's imagine a world where tomorrow the Ivy League opts into the House settlement (so Ivies can rev share), and also Cornell goes ahead and sets up an NIL fund that donors can contribute to. That in itself changes absolutely nothing. That's because Cornell athletics runs at a deficit, and Cornell hockey itself already uses every donation it gets just to sustain its facilities, recruiting, etc. So you would need huge ongoing donations on top of all that to pay players. That's life for almost every non-power 5 school in the country, and even the power 5 schools are resorting to measures such as jacking up ticket prices just to keep up with football rev sharing. Money doesn't grow on trees and NIL/rev share funding doesn't either.
Just as a thought experiment, I think the answer may lie in how direct an impact your money is going to have. In other words, some well-heeled donors may be more willing to buy a five-star recruit than they are to throw cash into the fungible pot of money that Cornell, Athletics or the hockey team get to distribute. Friedman bought a wrestling facility with his name on it, donors are enticed by having their names on endowed positions. You're targeting a very specific class of donor when you ask them to jump in the NIL game.
For an idea of NIL in a sport that isn't football or basketball, Bill helpfully linked to a story I was going to put here in the wrestling thread. An elite 125 pounder who had committed to Cornell "pulled his committment" - though it is generally believed that his gap year grades at FLCC weren't good enough for Admissions. After reopening his recruiting, he stayed near home, at Rutgers, for $200K a year.  So, yes, I assume there is a lot of hockey NIL money floating around even if the public information is sparse.

And if it's something other than $200K no one cares.  At least almost no one.  And no one is entitled to that knowledge.  Most understand this - but sadly not all.
Setting aside that this is another swipe at me (which is most of your posts, please find a new hobby), the substance of your post makes zero sense. No one is entitled to information about anything. Stories get reported when there is public interest. By your logic no athlete's contract should be reported on? What about other happenings to athletes, or happenings to people outside the sports world? Why should the public be entitled to information about anything??? What are you even talking about dude

As to ugarte's post, yes, it always just takes one crazy donor somewhere to pay a kid $200K. As it stands though, college programs other than big-time football and basketball struggle to stay afloat with the donations they have. One instance of a large payout does not indicate what is the norm. There's also a survivorship bias type of thing going on where of the thousands of athletes in wrestling/hockey/etc we only hear about the few kids rumored to be getting an NIL deal to, e.g., jump from CHL to NCAA. But we don't hear about the 90% of blue chippers in the CHL who don't make the jump. These one-off cases (often pure rumor and/or with scant detail) don't really prove anything. Until someone looks into money in college hockey on a wider scale we just don't know anything.

ugarte

Quote from: BearLover on Today at 03:34:15 PMAs it stands though, college programs other than big-time football and basketball struggle to stay afloat with the donations they have.
My general response to this is that I think a lot of athletic department accounting borrows a lot from Hollywood accounting, though with different motivations. The universities we are talking about are generally NFP and the point of an NFP is not to show a profit - there are even disincentives to showing a profit. I think a lot of the Poor Me you see from a lot of programs/sports is bullshit.