Recruits 2026 and Beyond

Started by BearLover, June 05, 2025, 01:34:48 PM

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margolism

Incentive to play his absolute best.

Trotsky

They all always have that anyway.  Nobody in D1 is dogging it based on their draft status.  They need to prove to coach they deserve premium minutes, to their draft team they are developing, and they'd never have reached this level without the neurotic thirst to achieve it takes decades of therapy to unkink.

stereax

Oh... great...

The new CBA changes the time teams have drafted players' rights before signing them (4 years for drafted at 18, 3 years drafted at 19, etc).

These changes are expected to be effective starting with the 2027 draft class. Players drafted prior to 2027 will be subject to the existing rules/timelines

BearLover

Quote from: stereaxOh... great...

The new CBA changes the time teams have drafted players' rights before signing them (4 years for drafted at 18, 3 years drafted at 19, etc).

These changes are expected to be effective starting with the 2027 draft class. Players drafted prior to 2027 will be subject to the existing rules/timelines
There was talk that there may be an exception if a player is in college, in which case their rights would expire X days after graduating. Did that end up not making it into the CBA?

This change seems to hurt most the teams with a lot of good but not great draft picks (guys who might want to stay 3 or 4 years). It also means college teams should rush drafted players to college whether they're ready or not.

scoop85

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Quote from: stereaxOh... great...

The new CBA changes the time teams have drafted players' rights before signing them (4 years for drafted at 18, 3 years drafted at 19, etc).

These changes are expected to be effective starting with the 2027 draft class. Players drafted prior to 2027 will be subject to the existing rules/timelines
There was talk that there may be an exception if a player is in college, in which case their rights would expire X days after graduating. Did that end up not making it into the CBA?

This change seems to hurt most the teams with a lot of good but not great draft picks (guys who might want to stay 3 or 4 years). It also means college teams should rush drafted players to college whether they're ready or not.

If they're "not ready" for college, what is the benefit of rushing them to come in? I'd rather have a guy who's "ready" even if it's for only 2 or 3 years.

BearLover

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Quote from: stereaxOh... great...

The new CBA changes the time teams have drafted players' rights before signing them (4 years for drafted at 18, 3 years drafted at 19, etc).

These changes are expected to be effective starting with the 2027 draft class. Players drafted prior to 2027 will be subject to the existing rules/timelines
There was talk that there may be an exception if a player is in college, in which case their rights would expire X days after graduating. Did that end up not making it into the CBA?

This change seems to hurt most the teams with a lot of good but not great draft picks (guys who might want to stay 3 or 4 years). It also means college teams should rush drafted players to college whether they're ready or not.

If they're "not ready" for college, what is the benefit of rushing them to come in? I'd rather have a guy who's "ready" even if it's for only 2 or 3 years.
Fair enough—I think though that it's rarely black and white, and if a player is anywhere close to being able to make the lineup (probably true of most draft picks) they'll be brought in immediately event if a year of juniors would be better for their growth.

stereax

Ok so as per this what I understood is true:

Draft rights: starting in 2027 draft

• age 18, rights expire on the fourth June 1 afterward.

• 19 or older, rights expire on the third June 1 afterward.

• if NCAA, rights expire following the 30th day after Central Registry is informed the player is leaving college hockey

BearLover

Quote from: stereaxOk so as per this what I understood is true:

Draft rights: starting in 2027 draft

• age 18, rights expire on the fourth June 1 afterward.

• 19 or older, rights expire on the third June 1 afterward.

• if NCAA, rights expire following the 30th day after Central Registry is informed the player is leaving college hockey
So the exception I was referring to above made it into the CBA after all. I.e. I don't think the new rule changes much of anything for college hockey.

adamw

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: stereaxOk so as per this what I understood is true:

Draft rights: starting in 2027 draft

• age 18, rights expire on the fourth June 1 afterward.

• 19 or older, rights expire on the third June 1 afterward.

• if NCAA, rights expire following the 30th day after Central Registry is informed the player is leaving college hockey
So the exception I was referring to above made it into the CBA after all. I.e. I don't think the new rule changes much of anything for college hockey.

changes nothing - except I think it used to be Aug. 1 now says "30 days" - and I also don't know what it means to inform anyone they're leaving college hockey if they're a senior.
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marty

Quote from: adamw
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: stereaxOk so as per this what I understood is true:

Draft rights: starting in 2027 draft

• age 18, rights expire on the fourth June 1 afterward.

• 19 or older, rights expire on the third June 1 afterward.

• if NCAA, rights expire following the 30th day after Central Registry is informed the player is leaving college hockey
So the exception I was referring to above made it into the CBA after all. I.e. I don't think the new rule changes much of anything for college hockey.

changes nothing - except I think it used to be Aug. 1 now says "30 days" - and I also don't know what it means to inform anyone they're leaving college hockey if they're a senior.

Perhaps that is written if a player leaves before graduating.
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ugarte

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Quote from: adamw
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: stereaxOk so as per this what I understood is true:

Draft rights: starting in 2027 draft

• age 18, rights expire on the fourth June 1 afterward.

• 19 or older, rights expire on the third June 1 afterward.

• if NCAA, rights expire following the 30th day after Central Registry is informed the player is leaving college hockey
So the exception I was referring to above made it into the CBA after all. I.e. I don't think the new rule changes much of anything for college hockey.

changes nothing - except I think it used to be Aug. 1 now says "30 days" - and I also don't know what it means to inform anyone they're leaving college hockey if they're a senior.

Perhaps that is written if a player leaves before graduating.
or if they graduate but have eligibility remaining

ithacat

Fwiw, Heisenberg's list for 2026 & beyond, with updated teams, shows the following number of recruits planning to play in the CHL this season:

Cornell - 7
Harvard - 6
Colgate - 3
Clarkson, QU - 2
Dartmouth, Princeton, Yale - 1
Brown, RPI, SLU, Union - 0

BearLover

Quote from: ithacatFwiw, Heisenberg's list for 2026 & beyond, with updated teams, shows the following number of recruits planning to play in the CHL this season:

Cornell - 7
Harvard - 6
Colgate - 3
Clarkson, QU - 2
Dartmouth, Princeton, Yale - 1
Brown, RPI, SLU, Union - 0
Quinnipiac's and Clarkson's numbers are low because their strategy, at least for next season, was to load up on CHL overagers who could immediately come to college the following season. So these teams are recruiting heavily from the CHL, but less so younger players who are still a few years away from matriculating. Clarkson had a bunch of decommitments from the coaching change so I can give them a pass, but Q's strategy seems to have been to kick most of their longtime recruits to the curb (either tell them they no longer have a roster spot, or send them back to juniors for another year) in favor of bringing in 7 CHL overagers. These kids were likely lined up to come to Q this summer until the CHL players became eligible, and a few months later those kids were told to kick rocks. Quinnipiac is surely not the only team doing this, but they're probably the only team in the ECAC doing this.

ursusminor

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ithacatFwiw, Heisenberg's list for 2026 & beyond, with updated teams, shows the following number of recruits planning to play in the CHL this season:

Cornell - 7
Harvard - 6
Colgate - 3
Clarkson, QU - 2
Dartmouth, Princeton, Yale - 1
Brown, RPI, SLU, Union - 0
Quinnipiac's and Clarkson's numbers are low because their strategy, at least for next season, was to load up on CHL overagers who could immediately come to college the following season. So these teams are recruiting heavily from the CHL, but less so younger players who are still a few years away from matriculating. Clarkson had a bunch of decommitments from the coaching change so I can give them a pass, but Q's strategy seems to have been to kick most of their longtime recruits to the curb (either tell them they no longer have a roster spot, or send them back to juniors for another year) in favor of bringing in 7 CHL overagers. These kids were likely lined up to come to Q this summer until the CHL players became eligible, and a few months later those kids were told to kick rocks. Quinnipiac is surely not the only team doing this, but they're probably the only team in the ECAC doing this.

RPI's Jack Ziliotto left Trail (BCHL) for Sudbury (OHL) and played 28 regular season games (5 goals, 9 assists) and 4 more in the playoffs there. I wrote Chris about this, and he stated that he was not going to make the change. I will write to him again since there are a lot of changes (e.g., Klassek and Lemieux will be in Troy).

I also expect Chemrouk to play for Victoria (QMJHL) and Dwyer for Baie-Comeau (QMJHL) where they were after Stanstead's season ended. Neither got much ice time in the Q.

stereax

Quote from: ithacatFwiw, Heisenberg's list for 2026 & beyond, with updated teams, shows the following number of recruits planning to play in the CHL this season:

Cornell - 7
Harvard - 6
Colgate - 3
Clarkson, QU - 2
Dartmouth, Princeton, Yale - 1
Brown, RPI, SLU, Union - 0
But I was told Cornell was going to have problems recruiting from the CHL...

Genuine question tho, can you break it down by league? It feels like most of our recruits stem from the Q, would be interested to know if other ECAC teams are pulling from the O and W or if we're all mostly dealing with the closest league.