2025-02-01 at Clarkson

stereax · February 02, 2025, 12:47:48 PM

Quote from: BearLoverI'm pretty sure if you asked Castagna himself, he'd tell you this has been a really tough year and that he isn't happy with his own play. He'd probably agree with arugula that his season has been a colossal disappointment. The extreme visceral reaction on this forum whenever anybody says something negative about the team is getting weird at this point. arugula's post was obviously premised on Castagna being supremely talented and capable of much more. Which is true, and which is why his lack of production has been shocking.

I think part of the counterargument, though, is that Castagna, as one of the players expected to be the best on the team, gets matched to much harder competition than others on the team. At this point, though, I'm mostly just considering the entire regular season a bit of a wash and hoping we get hot down the stretch and into the playoffs. Everyone's injured, sick, suspended, or some combination of the three, and it's difficult to accurately judge a team when so much is going on behind the scenes that we're not even aware about. Hopefully Castagna kicks it up a notch for the playoffs.

Snowball · February 02, 2025, 08:09:16 PM

Curious to know what people in this forum think about the 2 Friday night suspended guys being responsible for 4 of the 7 points in total on Saturday - Stanley with the 1st goal and O'Leary with an assist on all 3 goals.

Should strategic suspensions be a part of Cornell's game plans??!?

fastforward · February 02, 2025, 08:45:52 PM

Quote from: SnowballCurious to know what people in this forum think about the 2 Friday night suspended guys being responsible for 4 of the 7 points in total on Saturday - Stanley with the 1st goal and O'Leary with an assist on all 3 goals.

Should strategic suspensions be a part of Cornell's game plans??!?

Haha-a definite no for me
Perhaps the extra days rest and/or the wrath of Schaf spurred them

BearLover · February 02, 2025, 10:06:28 PM

Quote from: adamw
Quote from: BearLoverOn the Clarkson Hockey Roundtable (thanks ugarte for reminding me as to the existence of this website), the posters have been celebrating Casey's departure and are very optimistic about their new coach. While Casey was there they consistently called for his firing. The posters criticize Casey for "dump and chase hockey" and are thrilled with their new coach's "possession" style. They also still blame Casey for the losses this season, under the logic that the new coach inherited his players.

The "dump and chase" criticism is pretty funny. Casey certainly understands dump and chase hockey is not a high percentage play, and I'm sure his teams were doing it out of necessity rather than as a strategy. But the posters are under the impression dump and chase was Casey's preferred style.

Casey had more success at Clarkson than any coach there since the '90s, when the landscape was VASTLY different. There are no shortage of delusional, ignorant fans on any team's message board/thread. Clarkson will be lucky to have a program in 5 years.

News of this post has made its way over to the Clarkson Hockey Roundtable...

Trotsky · February 03, 2025, 12:10:09 AM

Quote from: SnowballCurious to know what people in this forum think about the 2 Friday night suspended guys being responsible for 4 of the 7 points in total on Saturday - Stanley with the 1st goal and O'Leary with an assist on all 3 goals.

I think we could have used them Friday.

Snowball · February 03, 2025, 08:46:43 AM

Well definitely we could have used them Friday.

I was thinking more in terms of motivation. Remember when Schaf took Ben Berard out of the line-up for a Friday game and then Berard scored a hat trick the next night:

https://cornellbigred.com/news/2020/2/29/mens-ice-hockey-berards-hat-trick-paces-1-mens-hockey-to-5-2-win-over-7-clarkson.aspx

stereax · February 03, 2025, 09:08:09 AM

Quote from: SnowballWell definitely we could have used them Friday.

I was thinking more in terms of motivation. Remember when Schaf took Ben Berard out of the line-up for a Friday game and then Berard scored a hat trick the next night:

https://cornellbigred.com/news/2020/2/29/mens-ice-hockey-berards-hat-trick-paces-1-mens-hockey-to-5-2-win-over-7-clarkson.aspx

For sure. I think the cocktail of fight + suspension + getting kicked in the nuts by SLU will do that.

BearLover · February 03, 2025, 11:07:18 AM

No. Not the brawl, not losing to StL, not anything, is going to inspire this team to turn its season around. There have been countless impetuses to do that already, and it has never happened. Clearly it's not lack of inspiration or desire to win that explains the lack of results. It's talent, coaching, and execution that is going to determine whether this team can turn things around. The brawl did nothing for this team other than cost them at least one game this past weekend.

Snowball · February 03, 2025, 12:19:00 PM

Ouch

BearLover · February 03, 2025, 12:42:15 PM

Quote from: SnowballOuch

Sorry, that was overly harsh. I just don't see it happening. If losing the last game of first semester to Colgate or losing 4-0 to ASU or losing to Sacred Heart didn't light a fire, nothing is going to. I also don't buy the premise that a fire needs to be lit in the first place.

Snowball · February 03, 2025, 01:19:10 PM

No worries. Though it's usually only my father-on-law who can be so pessimistic:

Father-in-law: Don't you think we are leaving a terrible, horrible world for your kids?
Me: No, cancer will be cured in their lifetime

Bearlover, you be you, I'll continue to be Pollyanna:
- get more players back,
- get the powerplay going,
- Shane continues excellent play...

Ergo: ECAC tournament, Great end of season.

billhoward · February 03, 2025, 02:38:03 PM

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SnowballCurious to know what people in this forum think about the 2 Friday night suspended guys being responsible for 4 of the 7 points in total on Saturday - Stanley with the 1st goal and O'Leary with an assist on all 3 goals.
I think we could have used them Friday.

I added the AI enhancer and it suggested: Make no changes to the Trotsky typeface. Sarcasm Font came through as DataClass|Implied.

BearLover · February 03, 2025, 03:01:33 PM

Quote from: SnowballNo worries. Though it's usually only my father-on-law who can be so pessimistic:

Father-in-law: Don't you think we are leaving a terrible, horrible world for your kids?
Me: No, cancer will be cured in their lifetime

Bearlover, you be you, I'll continue to be Pollyanna:
- get more players back,
- get the powerplay going,
- Shane continues excellent play...

Ergo: ECAC tournament, Great end of season.

Oh, I don't really disagree that we may well improve and go on a run, but I don't think it will be because a brawl or loss lit a fire under the team.

Snowball · February 03, 2025, 03:22:10 PM

Got it.

Let's Go Red!

VIEWfromK · February 04, 2025, 10:25:27 AM

Quote from: SnowballI was thinking more in terms of motivation. Remember when Schaf took Ben Berard out of the line-up for a Friday game and then Berard scored a hat trick the next night:

I have seen this go the other way though too. In 2012-13 (our most recent disappointing regular season?) after a Friday OT loss to top ten ranked Yale, Schafer benched leading scorer Greg Miller and they went out and played a lifeless 3-0 game in a home loss against Brown. It was one time where I was furious at a Schafer decision.