your suggestions

[rhovorka]

One of the guys who got revenge on Volonnino wrote:

Then join us in wearing "Go back to Long Island, facetimer" shirts to the games this year. :-D

I would, but I see 2 problems with the slogan.  First, not all "facetimers" are from Long Island.  Also, by association, not all Long Islanders are "facetimers."  Some of the most dedicated fans I know happen to be from there.  Second, almost nobody would admit to being a "facetimer."  Should you accuse anyone of such a heinous activity, I'm sure you'd be met with "no way, man I've been a real fan since my pre-frosh days!"  So while I'm hesitant to use that f-word, I don't hesitate to yell at people who show up 5 minutes into the 1st period, yak on their cellphones, make out with their date during action, or aren't even facing the ice during play.

I'm also glad that the Sun writers saw fit to post here.  I'd just like to reiterate that I wasn't "threatening" them.  I knew the Sun sports writers personally in my undergrad days, and have seen some of the writers at most of the road games I've attended the past few years.  They don't know me, I don't really know them, but I've seen them enough to recognize them.  I do respect their travel dedication, that's for sure...but this piece just rubbed me the wrong way, that's all.

[Will]

Rich H '96 wrote:

I would, but I see 2 problems with the slogan.  First, not all "facetimers" are from Long Island.  Also, by association, not all Long Islanders are "facetimers."  Some of the most dedicated fans I know happen to be from there.  Second, almost nobody would admit to being a "facetimer."  Should you accuse anyone of such a heinous activity, I'm sure you'd be met with "no way, man I've been a real fan since my pre-frosh days!"  So while I'm hesitant to use that f-word, I don't hesitate to yell at people who show up 5 minutes into the 1st period, yak on their cellphones, make out with their date during action, or aren't even facing the ice during play.

LOL...indeed, it is true that not all facetimers are from LI or vice versa.  The whole idea was started by a Cornell student who is also an Ithaca native and has been a hockey fan since he was young.  It's a joke, really, not meant to be taken seriously.  Of course, we could just have the shirts say "Go back to Long Island, freshman" and it will actually apply to a fair number of people...:-D Just kidding.

While nobody will admit to being a facetimer, it's fairly easy to identify one--they don't know what 'facetimer' means. ;-)

[A-19]

Ari's point about the open-ended start time was the best process I have also been able to come up with. The only question is whether the wait will get obscenely longer because of a few people who go way early and scare others to show up...it could stretch for a week, if that happened too many times. But if that's the worst of it, it's an excellent idea. It would have to be a given that athletics or cupd or whomever prevented cutting. This would "official-ize" the process. In essence, the official line starts whenever the first guy shows up and claims a number. People will judge when to show, based on the AD's assertion that "ticket sales will be held Sunday Sept XX." That gives the first person alot of leaway to show, and once you're there, no leaving. It's only fair. Do you agree, Ari?

I also like the point about fall break ticket sales. It's an interesting twist on the dedicated fan idea.

-Mike '04

[jtwcornell91]

Mike wrote:
I also like the point about fall break ticket sales. It's an interesting twist on the dedicated fan idea.

But it does penalize people who are
1. Dedicated enough to follow the football team on a road trip for Fall Break
2. Camping out for the Friends of the Library booksale.
I guess people in category #2 could just join the hockey ticket line Saturday afternoon after then get back from the booksale, and people in category #1 could come back Sunday morning to line up, though.

[Jim Hyla]

Dear Mike Pandolfini and Jon Auerbach:

I'm glad you had people in front of the line holding your spaces. However, you certainly could have made your point much clearer in your article. Please examine this quote from your article[Q]Luckily, my friend Will and his brother Charles are near the front of the line. I stumble down to them; the people around me don't appear happy that I am joining the line in front of them.[/Q]To my eyes this is most easily interpreted as cutting, why else would everyone there be upset if you two came and two others left. If they were holding your place, and there was no list, then it's only a fine line to not call that cutting.

The main point is that the AD s**ks when trying to deal with these types of issues, but as a reporter, you also need to be sure your writting is unambiguous.

Jim Hyla '67 and a subscriber to the Sun for almost every year since then.

[Keith K \'93]

1. Are there any road tripping Cornell football fans?  :-P

2. Huh?  I'm sure there are thousands of these people...

[rhovorka]

"almost every year" Jim?  What years did you slag off and why?  :-)

[jtwcornell91]

Keith K '93 wrote:
1. Are there any road tripping Cornell football fans?  :-P

My senior year my girlfriend and I made all three Ivy roadtrips (and no, we weren''t in the band); the only games we missed were two at Patriot League schools.  One was during the GREs, and the other was at Colgate, which I almost talked her into.

2. Huh?  I'm sure there are thousands of these people...

IIRC, the fire code only allowed 200 people at a time into the warehouse where the booksale was held in my day, and you had to be there over an hour before the doors opened to ensure you were in the first wave into the sale.  So there were at least hundreds of us.

Does this make me a geek among geeks?



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[CUlater 89]

[Q]Does this make me a geek among geeks?[/Q]

No, but it might make you an Ithacan.

I know some ex-Ithacans who used to go back every year for the library book sale.

[Section A]

I think people who say "we were standing IN line" should get preference over people saying "we were standing ON line" ;-) . Huh? What? You were on the internet?  ::nut::

[Jim Hyla]

Rich said:[Q]"almost every year" Jim? What years did you slag off and why? [/Q]Well, I think it has been every year, but not being able to prove that I elected to hedge. :-P

[melissa]

ok. i don't think anyone is eagerly anticipating my letter, but just in case, i wanted to let you all know that it is taking longer than anticipated  (partly because it is turning into more of a report than a letter and partly because work has been crazy this week and i haven't had much free time). i'll have it finished at some point this week-end and post it as soon as it is complete.

[Ben Rocky \'04]

Anyone who is proud to be from long island is likely a facetimer anyways.  If you are a real lynah faithful and are offended, get real!  Your stupid sandbard sucks.  Honestly, who is proud of being from there anyway?  My only friends from Long Island instead brag about their family's Queens or Bronx roots.
I stand by my "go back to long island, facetimer"

email me if interested

-ben rocky '04

[Ben Rocky \'04]

anyone who knows me knows i hate the sun.  that said, the sun's sports section is the only part i read.  more all out big red sports fans write for the last page then there are real lynah faithful in section B.
they do an great job reporting our victories and it is nice to know they actually camped out for tickets instead of begging for free ones.

-ben rocky 04

[jtwcornell91]

Ben Rocky '04 wrote:

Anyone who is proud to be from long island is likely a facetimer anyways.  If you are a real lynah faithful and are offended, get real!  Your stupid sandbard sucks.  Honestly, who is proud of being from there anyway?  My only friends from Long Island instead brag about their family's Queens or Bronx roots.

Um, hate to tell you this, but Queens (like Brooklyn) is on the same "sandbard".

JTW, whose parents grew up in East Islip