Cornell lacrosse 2024

Started by billhoward, July 20, 2023, 10:49:39 AM

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RichH

Quote from: billhowardNow that Cornell's extraordinary defender Gavin Adler '23 is gone from the Cornell team, Inside Lacrosse ponders Men's Tewaaraton Watch: Should a Defender Get Serious Consideration?

But still, Cornell is in the hunt:
Quote from: Matt Kinnear, Inside Lacrosse... "If the season ended today..."
CJ Kirst would be the favorite
Ajax Zappitello would be (should be) at the Tewaaraton ceremony
JJ Sillstrop made the biggest jump
Here is my Tewaaraton Watch .... . I divided it into three tiers:

Tier 1 "The Favorites" — These guys have had Tewaaraton buzz for multiple years, and it would be a shocker if they weren't all finalists.
Tier 2 'The Contenders" — These are established, elite offensive players whose teams are in the Top 10.
Tier 3 "The Challengers" — Supreme offense talents whose teams are on the cusp of the Top 10, or defensive players who have a steeper hill to climb (through no fault of their own).
Tier 4 "The Field" — Really talented players, but maybe not with the name recognition or projected team success as the guys ahead of them. It's so early, though, one of these guys could make their way to DC.
The way it's sorted is to make the point that this list is a projection based on a month of games, players' history and the committee's thinking. It's not necessarily a best player ranking. There are players further down the list that I'd put much higher in a "best player" list (Ajax Zappitello, first of all).

Favorites
1. CJ Kirst, Cornell
2. Brennan O'Neill, Duke (2023 winner)
3. Connor Shellenberger, Virginia

Contenders
4. JJ Sillstrop, Denver
5. Evan Plunkett, Army
6. Pat Kavanagh, Notre Dame
7. Evan Plunkett, Army
8. Joey Spallina, Syraqcuse
Challengers and The Field, see story

Cornell has had two award winners:
2009  Max Seibald, M
2013  Rob Pannell, A
The Tewaaraton dates only to 2001, so no awards to 1970s studs Mike French '76 and Eamon McEneaney '77. Two other Ivy players won: Dylan Molloy from the 2016 Brown team that made the title game, and Ben Reeves of Yale that won the title.

Brown has never made the Final. They lost in the semis in OT.

semsox

Quote from: billhowardNow that Cornell's extraordinary defender Gavin Adler '23 is gone from the Cornell team, Inside Lacrosse ponders Men's Tewaaraton Watch: Should a Defender Get Serious Consideration?

I had a viscerally negative reaction to the question when I saw the article earlier this afternoon, however, after taking a second, it is an interesting thought experiment. While I think Adler is and was a better than any of the current D1 poles, the history of the Tewaarton presumes a deep postseason run. So maybe a better question is, what would Adler's case have looked like if Cornell made it back to Memorial Day last year?

upprdeck

40 windy and rain.  

gonna be the norm for cornell.

upprdeck

As ugly a game as score says.

cant score from close in at all.

Ken711

Yale beats #1 Denver 15-13.

upprdeck

Thats stretch where we won like 5 FOs and had 2 EMs in a row and I dont know that we even got a shot on goal.

Ken711

Latest lacrosse poll:

Cornell drops from #8 to 15.

1    Army (6 - 0)   533 (22)   3
2    Notre Dame (4 - 1)   505 (4)   4
3    Virginia (5 - 1)   454   5
4    Duke (6 - 1)   451 (1)   6
5    Maryland (5 - 1)   426   7
6    Syracuse (6 - 2)   381   9
7    Johns Hopkins (5 - 2)   375   2
8    Denver (5 - 1)   366   1
9    Penn State (5 - 1)   352   11
10    Yale (3 - 1)   325   12
11    Georgetown (4 - 2)   270   10
12    Harvard (6 - 0)   207   19
13    Princeton (4 - 2)   205   15
14    Penn (4 - 2)   186   14
15    Cornell (3 - 2)   162   8

upprdeck

Cornell better step it up.

They have way too much schedule for the way they are playing right now.

blackwidow

Cornell lax primed to be the bottom of the ivy

BearLover

Quote from: blackwidowCornell lax primed to be the bottom of the ivy
thanks

mike1960

Quote from: blackwidowCornell lax primed to be the bottom of the ivy

Jordan Stevens has coached some really good defenses, like the 2022 team that went to the title game. I'm sure they'll work hard this week on picking up the ball a little sooner and protecting the topside so they can help the goalie on Sunday.

billhoward

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Quote from: blackwidowCornell lax primed to be the bottom of the ivy
thanks
Some fishermen are best at trolling.

billhoward

Yours is a more reasonable description of Cornell's woes on defense: concerning not fatal.

This weekend's Ivy match between two top Ivy teams will be a fairer matchup. At Princeton Saturday at the Tigers' gorgeous Class of '52 Stadium (56 degrees, partly sunny, 4,000 seats, PU-CU lax well attended, near to but seldom a sellout, if only this were in Ithaca as a precursor to the Harvard hockey game).

blackwidow

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Quote from: blackwidowCornell lax primed to be the bottom of the ivy

Jordan Stevens has coached some really good defenses, like the 2022 team that went to the title game. I'm sure they'll work hard this week on picking up the ball a little sooner and protecting the topside so they can help the goalie on Sunday.

I think the young coaching staff is being found out for who they really are. I think there will be some growing pain, this season being the main one

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: blackwidowCornell lax primed to be the bottom of the ivy

Jordan Stevens has coached some really good defenses, like the 2022 team that went to the title game. I'm sure they'll work hard this week on picking up the ball a little sooner and protecting the topside so they can help the goalie on Sunday.

I think the young coaching staff is being found out for who they really are. I think there will be some growing pain, this season being the main one
I think you're full of shit.
Al DeFlorio '65