Clarkson Game Thread

[upprdeck]

If you're wondering why McDonald played both games over the weekend, this is what Schafer said in the official Brandon Thomas writeup after the St. Lawrence game:

Senior Nate McDonald made 19 saves to earn the victory, improving to 5-0 in his first five collegiate starts.
 
"I thought he did a solid job again tonight," Schafer added. "I thought he was better at controlling his rebounds. He just had a great week of practice. He was just dialed in all week in practice and focused, and I thought he elevated himself this week as a goaltender."

Like many of you, I felt that the bad-angle goal McDonald allowed to lose the shutout started to turn the momentum against us. There was also the icing call against us with about 30 seconds left which should have been waved off, and the strange decision to have the faceoff with 5 seconds remaining in our end instead of at neutral ice. From the Sun article:

After the whistle, Clarkson's Chris Klack and senior tri-captain Kyle Betts got into it, with Klack delivering a punch to Bett's helmet and Betts responding by driving Klack to the ice. The two were assessed offsetting roughing penalties.

After a review, the officials placed the puck in Cornell's defensive zone. The decision seemed to be an incorrect adjudication of Rule 81.2, which stipulates that the puck be placed in the neutral zone following an altercation where the attacking team's players come below the faceoff circles to get involved – which Clarkson defenseman Noah Beck did when he went to the corner to check out the action.

"We made mistakes, officials made mistakes, and Clarkson capitalized," Schafer said.

With 4.7 seconds left, if the puck had been placed in the neutral zone Clarkson would have had the impossible task of winning the draw, entering the zone and getting off a shot. But it wasn't placed in the neutral zone.

Also, we did have a power play in OT and had some good chances, but failed to capitalize. At least if we had scored on that power play we would have avoided the shootout and gotten the extra point. This was the first game this season where I felt we really missed Galajda. Even though it's been documented in his thread how he has given up similar bad-angle goals, it's hard to believe he would have let all four of those goals in during the final few minutes, especially the final one.

I looked at the rule and if you keep reading, it seems that since there were offsetting penalties the faceoff is supposed to be closest to where the play was whistled dead.

"When a violation of a rule has been committed by players of both teams on the play resulting in the stoppage, the ensuing faceoff shall be made at the point where the puck was when the stoppage occurred. If there is a differential in penalties, the faceoff will take place in the defending zone of the team with the additional penalty."

https://www.achahockey.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/2020-22-NCAA-Rules.pdf

2 parts of the rule. 1 is where its placed when the 2 who took the penalties.. the other is when the clarkson dude entered the play after it was done from above the endline and that one should have moved it outside the zone.

[ursusminor]

When did Cornell start using uniforms with the inscription "Huskies"? :-P


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[Weder]

If you're wondering why McDonald played both games over the weekend, this is what Schafer said in the official Brandon Thomas writeup after the St. Lawrence game:

Senior Nate McDonald made 19 saves to earn the victory, improving to 5-0 in his first five collegiate starts.
 
"I thought he did a solid job again tonight," Schafer added. "I thought he was better at controlling his rebounds. He just had a great week of practice. He was just dialed in all week in practice and focused, and I thought he elevated himself this week as a goaltender."

Like many of you, I felt that the bad-angle goal McDonald allowed to lose the shutout started to turn the momentum against us. There was also the icing call against us with about 30 seconds left which should have been waved off, and the strange decision to have the faceoff with 5 seconds remaining in our end instead of at neutral ice. From the Sun article:

After the whistle, Clarkson's Chris Klack and senior tri-captain Kyle Betts got into it, with Klack delivering a punch to Bett's helmet and Betts responding by driving Klack to the ice. The two were assessed offsetting roughing penalties.

After a review, the officials placed the puck in Cornell's defensive zone. The decision seemed to be an incorrect adjudication of Rule 81.2, which stipulates that the puck be placed in the neutral zone following an altercation where the attacking team's players come below the faceoff circles to get involved – which Clarkson defenseman Noah Beck did when he went to the corner to check out the action.

"We made mistakes, officials made mistakes, and Clarkson capitalized," Schafer said.

With 4.7 seconds left, if the puck had been placed in the neutral zone Clarkson would have had the impossible task of winning the draw, entering the zone and getting off a shot. But it wasn't placed in the neutral zone.

Also, we did have a power play in OT and had some good chances, but failed to capitalize. At least if we had scored on that power play we would have avoided the shootout and gotten the extra point. This was the first game this season where I felt we really missed Galajda. Even though it's been documented in his thread how he has given up similar bad-angle goals, it's hard to believe he would have let all four of those goals in during the final few minutes, especially the final one.

I looked at the rule and if you keep reading, it seems that since there were offsetting penalties the faceoff is supposed to be closest to where the play was whistled dead.

"When a violation of a rule has been committed by players of both teams on the play resulting in the stoppage, the ensuing faceoff shall be made at the point where the puck was when the stoppage occurred. If there is a differential in penalties, the faceoff will take place in the defending zone of the team with the additional penalty."

https://www.achahockey.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/2020-22-NCAA-Rules.pdf

2 parts of the rule. 1 is where its placed when the 2 who took the penalties.. the other is when the clarkson dude entered the play after it was done from above the endline and that one should have moved it outside the zone.

Yeah, but that is under the section about where face offs should be held if only one team is penalized? At least that's the way I read it.


"When players are penalized at a stoppage of play so as to result in one or more penalties being placed on the penalty time clock to one team, the ensuing faceoff shall be conducted at one of the two faceoff spots in the offending team's end zone. There are only three (3) exceptions to this application:
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When a penalty is assessed after the scoring of a goal – faceoff at center ice;
When a penalty is assessed at the end (or start) of a period – faceoff at center ice;
When the defending team is penalized and the attacking players enter the attacking zone beyond the outer edge of the end zone faceoff circle – faceoff in the neutral zone."

[billhoward]

Maybe at Clarrkson they're still hand developing film and it wasn't ready for the Twitter, so: file photos.

[billhoward]

Fifth Puck Game?

[JohnAshbrook]

I was at the game last night in person and I must say all the hate McDonald is getting on here is pretty unwarranted.  Up until the second Clarkson goal he was having the game of his life.  Clarkson was outshooting us like crazy and we have up an insane amount of powerplays.  McDonald's goaltending was the only reason we were in the position we were in the third period.  It was pretty clear that by the end of the game, our defense had become exhausted by Clarkson tenacity, and the fact that they'd been killing penalties for what felt like the whole game.  When things went 6 on 5 they were exhausted and seemingly pretty unprepared, and what happened happened.  Fun story, after they won the penalty shoutout an entire burrito wrapped in tinfoil was launched at my friend and me as we were standing with the Cornell band.  Had been talking a lot of shit the whole game so somewhat understandable.  Left, extremely shortly after.

[billhoward]

an entire burrito wrapped in tinfoil

Not only did Clarkson take away Cornell chem professor / provost / FL vineyard operator Bob Plane (RIP 2018) to be Tech's president (this would be 1980s), now they're claiming to have a hotel school.

[cbuckser]

an entire burrito wrapped in tinfoil

Not only did Clarkson take away Cornell chem professor / provost / FL vineyard operator Bob Plane (RIP 2018) to be Tech's president (this would be 1980s), now they're claiming to have a hotel school.

No rational fan would hurl a burrito at an obnoxious opposing fan unless the burrito tasted so terrible it was best used as a projectile.

[billhoward]

an entire burrito wrapped in tinfoil

Not only did Clarkson take away Cornell chem professor / provost / FL vineyard operator Bob Plane (RIP 2018) to be Tech's president (this would be 1980s), now they're claiming to have a hotel school.

No rational fan would hurl a burrito at an obnoxious opposing fan unless the burrito tasted so terrible it was best used as a projectile.

And it's a skillful fan who can eat a burrito on the ride up, or back, and not gonna on your lap.
Tom Brady probably hasn't had a burrito since his Ann Arbor days.

[RichH]

an entire burrito wrapped in tinfoil

Not only did Clarkson take away Cornell chem professor / provost / FL vineyard operator Bob Plane (RIP 2018) to be Tech's president (this would be 1980s), now they're claiming to have a hotel school.

No rational fan would hurl a burrito at an obnoxious opposing fan unless the burrito tasted so terrible it was best used as a projectile.

Do any of us really wonder about what kind of reputation the Mexican food of Potsdam, NY has? I think I know.

[Drew2]

Hey guys/gals,From a Tech perspective....  I was at the game last night (just got home after a 6 hour ride)  I think the game was evenly played, I think your Goalie made some tremendous stops to keep us off the board early, that being said, I was impressed with your team speed, very unlike Big Red of years ago....the game has changed.  It was a man's game last night, they were crushing each other, lots of ice baths for both teams.  

Personally, I think we have a very good and tenacious forecheck and I think at the end, your boys were gassed, but a hard fought game on both sides.

A GOOD GAME.

By the way, maybe I missed it, but no word of how both bands came together and sang "Sweet Caroline"  I loved it!

Stay safe,
Drew

[Drew2]

Apologies, having computer issues

[jtwcornell91]

Hey guys/gals,From a Tech perspective....  I was at the game last night (just got home after a 6 hour ride)  I think the game was evenly played, I think your Goalie made some tremendous stops to keep us off the board early, that being said, I was impressed with your team speed, very unlike Big Red of years ago....the game has changed.  It was a man's game last night, they were crushing each other, lots of ice baths for both teams.  

Personally, I think we have a very good and tenacious forecheck and I think at the end, your boys were gassed, but a hard fought game on both sides.

A GOOD GAME.

By the way, maybe I missed it, but no word of how both bands came together and sang "Sweet Caroline"  I loved it!

Stay safe,
Drew

The one consolation I took out of last night is that this could be the first chapter in an epic Cornell-Clarkson battle this season (hopefully we can both do more to dispose of Harvard and Quinnipiac).

Re: Sweet Caroline, Trotsky and I addressed that in another thread. :-P

[osorojo]

USCHO Hockey Guru wrote this headline: "Clarkson stages unreal rally to top Cornell . . ." "top"? New math? Clarkson graduate?

[BearLover]

USCHO Hockey Guru wrote this headline: "Clarkson stages unreal rally to top Cornell . . ." "top"? New math? Clarkson graduate?

Well, people on this very forum keep referring to this year's Cornell team as 9-1-1...