Cornell lacrosse 2020

Started by billhoward, May 06, 2019, 03:58:11 PM

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dbilmes

We're losing on faceoffs 19-4 but are ahead by 4 goals. Imagine if we could win half of the faceoffs? Chase has played much better in goal after slow start, too.

mike1960

Quote from: dbilmesWe're losing on faceoffs 19-4 but are ahead by 4 goals. Imagine if we could win half of the faceoffs? Chase has played much better in goal after slow start, too.

We had a year to get this fixed. Didn't do it.

Al DeFlorio

Gotta hold onto the ball when we have it.  Two loose passes.
Al DeFlorio '65

mike1960

Not great shot selection by Fletcher.

RichH

I've now trained myself to just assume that we're winning when I see so much complaining on this thread.

CU held on, 17-16.

upprdeck

really surprised with all the penalties they didnt call any of the pushes on the few faceoffs we were coming out with and that just added to the issues getting the ball

sloppy 4th when we had the game put away.

Robb

Quote from: upprdeckreally surprised with all the penalties they didnt call any of the pushes on the few faceoffs we were coming out with and that just added to the issues getting the ball

sloppy 4th when we had the game put away.
Terrible/questionable clock management and shot selection, too.  5 min left, up by 4, and you're gonna throw an unscreened ball into the keeper's breadbasket (no chance of a rebound or backup) with 50 seconds left on the shot clock?  Pourquoi?
Let's Go RED!

mike1960

Quote from: RichHI've now trained myself to just assume that we're winning when I see so much complaining on this thread.

CU held on, 17-16.

When you lose 30 of 37 faceoffs, there's a reason to gripe. Reisman was a great, great player, but is he doing enough with the coach's whistle?

dag14

Fortunately OSU gave us back the ball almost as many times as we lost the faceoff.  But for their 25+ turnovers and poor man-up [or our great man-down defense], it might have been a very different game.  In addition, their goaltender found his game in the second half -- maybe as late as the 4th quarter -- when he started making saves on some point blank shots.  Chase's stats suggest that he may have had issues seeing the ball again.  More saves in the second and fourth than in the first and third.  OSU scored almost at will from outside in the first quarter.

upprdeck

good news is if we got to 50/50 on faceoffs we win by 10..  bad news is it might be much the same in many games this yr.  I thought there were a bunch that were pretty neutral so there is hope.

billhoward

Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: dbilmesWe're losing on faceoffs 19-4 but are ahead by 4 goals. Imagine if we could win half of the faceoffs? Chase has played much better in goal after slow start, too.
We had a year to get this fixed. Didn't do it.


                 COR          OSU
Turnovers lost    9           25
Faceoffs won      7           30


Imagine how bad if Ohio State hadn't turned the ball over so much. (OSU won faceoffs in Q4 7-3 but turned it over 7-3.)

No matter how hard you work on your faceoffs, you may run into the upper limit of a FOGO's ability to improve.

We died a thousand deaths when TD Ierlan decide to transfer to Yale instead of Cornell.

We'll be at a big disadvantage against the very best FOGOs in the country. We're about to learn if that's 5, or 20 who are demonstrably better.

Teat getting free for 4G 2A is nice. Piatelli continues to roll, 5G 3A (and he's got a year left after this) while Michael Long wasn't his usual amazing (freshman self) with 2G 0A.

In addition to #1 Yale's loss to UMass, Penn State barely by #6 Penn 18-17 in OT. With Penn State on a non-releasable penalty, Penn got 2 last minute goals for the tie then lost on a failed clearing pass in OT. FWIW, Penn handled Penn State on faceoffs, 26-13.

Swampy

I'd have to watch the game again, and even then the camera work may not show it, but it seemed to me the problem on the faceoffs was with the wings, not the FOGOs.

Also, our 2nd SS mids need to be more patient & humble. Be in front of your man, don't cross your feet, stay on your toes, and play stick-on-stick. If your man passes, you've won the battle. There's no need to try to steal the ball, especially when you're up 2-6 goals late in the game.

(FWIW, I fixed this post. Damn iPad autocorrect.)

mike1960

Quote from: SwampyI'd have to watch the game again, and even then the camera work may no show it, but it seemed to me the problem on the faceoffs was with the wings, not the FOGOs.

Also, our 2nd SS mids need to be more patient & humble. Be in front of your man, don't crass your forfeit, stay on your toes, and play stick-on-stick.If your man passes, you've win the battle. There's no need to try to steal the ball.

Great point. There was one OSU scoring play from a face dodge that made Aiden Blake look like his cleats were glued to the floor. Stay in front!

upprdeck

OSu did a much better job after the initial faceoff on slashing sticks as we were about to get the ball and kicking the ball out to other people.  you change just 4-5 of the faceoff and thats a 2-3 goal swing.

scoop85

Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: SwampyI'd have to watch the game again, and even then the camera work may no show it, but it seemed to me the problem on the faceoffs was with the wings, not the FOGOs.

Also, our 2nd SS mids need to be more patient & humble. Be in front of your man, don't crass your forfeit, stay on your toes, and play stick-on-stick.If your man passes, you've win the battle. There's no need to try to steal the ball.

Great point. There was one OSU scoring play from a face dodge that made Aiden Blake look like his cleats were glued to the floor. Stay in front!

Yeah, Blake is a talented and athletic kid, but he's a freshman and it showed yesterday.