Cornell - Providence

Started by ugarte, March 30, 2019, 09:51:47 PM

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arugula

At the Dunk. You know it's going to be a rough day when the freakin Dinkin Donuts Center has no donuts.  Seriously the Red haven't shown up. Very disappointing. Little zone time sloppy in front of net.  Loose with the puck.  As above, Austin seems to have forgotten how to control  rebounds. At Lynch this would still be a 3-0 game.  A real no show so far.

abmarks

Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: jtwcornell91I really hate the "no distinct kicking motion" rule.
And his skate was clearly moving in the direction of the goal, so if that isn't a distinct kicking motion, what is?  It clearly wasn't a deflection off the skate.

It was a redirection, not a kick

Beeeej

Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: jtwcornell91I really hate the "no distinct kicking motion" rule.
And his skate was clearly moving in the direction of the goal, so if that isn't a distinct kicking motion, what is?  It clearly wasn't a deflection off the skate.

His body was moving in the direction of the goal; presumably, if his skate was moving a little faster than the rest of his body, that would've been a distinct kicking motion.

Regardless, that goal is not the difference in this game. We're getting outplayed, being way too tentative, and making bad decisions.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

cuhockey93

So you can sell beer at NCAA Hockey Tournament games? What was the deal last year then?

LGR14

Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: jtwcornell91I really hate the "no distinct kicking motion" rule.
And his skate was clearly moving in the direction of the goal, so if that isn't a distinct kicking motion, what is?  It clearly wasn't a deflection off the skate.

It was a redirection, not a kick

A redirection is when the player uses the momentum of the puck to direct it toward the goal. The puck here was going away from the goal and then went in. That's a kick.

jkahn

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: jtwcornell91I really hate the "no distinct kicking motion" rule.
And his skate was clearly moving in the direction of the goal, so if that isn't a distinct kicking motion, what is?  It clearly wasn't a deflection off the skate.

His body was moving in the direction of the goal; presumably, if his skate was moving a little faster than the rest of his body, that would've been a distinct kicking motion.

Regardless, that goal is not the difference in this game. We're getting outplayed, being way too tentative, and making bad decisions.
Agreed.  Having lots of trouble completing passes.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Iceberg

Leaman-style hockey in a nutshell *facepalm*

Regardless, it sure didn't look like this year's team would get this far, so it was certainly a nice surprise

Dafatone

Oh well. Heck of a year to do as well as we did, given the injuries. Galajda probably makes a few more saves early and changes the complexion of the whole thing.

We could be iffy next year if we can't replace the defensemen we're losing.

abmarks

Quote from: LGR14
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: jtwcornell91I really hate the "no distinct kicking motion" rule.
And his skate was clearly moving in the direction of the goal, so if that isn't a distinct kicking motion, what is?  It clearly wasn't a deflection off the skate.

It was a redirection, not a kick

A redirection is when the player uses the momentum of the puck to direct it toward the goal. The puck here was going away from the goal and then went in. That's a kick.

Heh?  A kick requires a "kicking motion".  It has nothing to do with puck direction towards or away from net.   The announcement in the arena was "no distinct kicking motion x for bleeps sake.

BigRedHockeyFan

Wilkins directed the puck with his skate.  Watch the end of the video.  I would call it no goal.  

https://twitter.com/i/status/1112460152093827072

LGR14

So if there was no kicking motion, how did a puck traveling away from the net have enough momentum to travel back toward the net from the top of the crease?

Old, but here: https://nypost.com/2013/10/29/nhl-clarifies-kick-rule-that-keeps-costing-rangers/.  The guy's skate provided the inertia that propelled the puck into the net.


Dafatone

Quote from: LGR14So if there was no kicking motion, how did a puck traveling away from the net have enough momentum to travel back toward the net from the top of the crease?

Old, but here: https://nypost.com/2013/10/29/nhl-clarifies-kick-rule-that-keeps-costing-rangers/.  The guy's skate provided the inertia that propelled the puck into the net.

My understanding is that you can provide the inertia. You just can't make a kicking motion, as in move your skate / swing your lower leg so that it looks like you're kicking. If you keep your ankle locked, you can more or less slide into the puck with your skate and push it in.

That being said, I think this one was close to a kicking motion (you can see the skate tip backwards as he hits it) but it's very close.

BigRedHockeyFan