Bracketology 2019

[RichH]

i thought they had to be 10k or more to qualify

More than that. Albany is now too small.

It is? Albany seats 14,000. The regional site in Fargo only seats 5,000 for hockey. Allentown seats 9,000.

Unless you mean for Frozen Four sites.

[upprdeck]

perhaps you are right thats its much lower than a final 4 requirement.

[marty]

i thought they had to be 10k or more to qualify

More than that. Albany is now too small.

It is? Albany seats 14,000. The regional site in Fargo only seats 5,000 for hockey. Allentown seats 9,000.

Unless you mean for Frozen Four sites.

Sorry.  I meant Frozen Four and the topic was regionals. I'm under the weather and hope to get my marbles back soon.

[KenP]

So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts.   Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

[Jim Hyla]

we could host anytime we wanted in albany or buffalo.  but it requires some effort from the AD and the staff to organize things..

For a regional, Rochester is probably easier than Buffalo. Someone should find out what it takes.

Syracuse and Binghamton also have big enough rinks, right?

Bing is definitely too small, under 5K. By some standards Syr is big enough, over 6K, but from my point of view, Rochester is better.

[scoop85]

Makott tore his ACL per Schafer.

(Sorry, meant for this to be on the game thread)

[jtwcornell91]

we could host anytime we wanted in albany or buffalo.  but it requires some effort from the AD and the staff to organize things..

For a regional, Rochester is probably easier than Buffalo. Someone should find out what it takes.

Syracuse and Binghamton also have big enough rinks, right?

Bing is definitely too small, under 5K. By some standards Syr is big enough, over 6K, but from my point of view, Rochester is better.

Mine too, since I could walk to the rink from my house.

[marty]

So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts.   Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

We're likely in Providence vs. NE
Whoever ends up 3rd in pairwise after the NCHC OT game finishes will likely play Providence.

In Manchester it will be UMass vs Harvard and Clarkson vs Notre Dame unless the committee moves ND to Allentown.

Allentown will be number2 vs Bowling Green & QPeck vs OSU

Fargo will be number 1 vs AIC & Denver vs ASU.

[CU2007]

Makott tore his ACL per Schafer.

(Sorry, meant for this to be on the game thread)

Wow. Well that sucks.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts.   Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

We're likely in Providence vs. NE
Whoever ends up 3rd in pairwise after the NCHC OT game finishes will likely play Providence.

In Manchester it will be UMass vs Harvard and Clarkson vs Notre Dame unless the committee moves ND to Allentown.

Allentown will be number2 vs Bowling Green & QPeck vs OSU

Fargo will be number 1 vs AIC & Denver vs ASU.

Not quite.

If Duluth beats St.Cloud, Duluth finishes #2 and they get #15 BGSU (probably in Allentown) and since UMass can't play Providence, Mankato gets Providence and UMass gets Harvard.  But if St.Cloud beats Duluth, Duluth drops to #4 and Mankato is #2.  Mankato can't play #15 BGSU, so likely Mankato gets Harvard, UMass gets BGSU, and Duluth gets Providence.  

As said above, we get Northeastern.  The only question is where.  I think it depends on which game the committee thinks will be a better draw in Allentown - QPac-ASU, NEastern-Cornell, or Clarkson-Notre Dame.

Edit:  And Duluth wins.

[marty]

So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts.   Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

We're likely in Providence vs. NE
Whoever ends up 3rd in pairwise after the NCHC OT game finishes will likely play Providence.

In Manchester it will be UMass vs Harvard and Clarkson vs Notre Dame unless the committee moves ND to Allentown.

Allentown will be number2 vs Bowling Green & QPeck vs OSU

Fargo will be number 1 vs AIC & Denver vs ASU.

Not quite.

If Duluth beats St.Cloud, Duluth finishes #2 and they get #15 BGSU (probably in Allentown) and since UMass can't play Providence, Mankato gets Providence and UMass gets Harvard.  But if St.Cloud beats Duluth, Duluth drops to #4 and Mankato is #2.  Mankato can't play #15 BGSU, so likely Mankato gets Harvard, UMass gets BGSU, and Duluth gets Providence.  

As said above, we get Northeastern.  The only question is where.  I think it depends on which game the committee thinks will be a better draw - QPac-ASU, NEastern-Cornell, or Clarkson-Notre Dame.

Edit:  And Duluth wins.

Don't you think tOSU will be moved to Allentown and ASU will go to Fargo?

[Jim Hyla]

Here's Adam's

Code Select Expand


[b]Fargo[/b]
1. St. Cloud State vs. 16. American International
8. Denver vs. 9. Ohio State

[b]Allentown[/b]
2. Minnesota-Duluth vs. 15. Bowling Green
[b][u]7. Quinnipiac[/u][/b] vs. 10. Arizona State

[b]Providence[/b]
3. Minnesota State vs. 14. Providence
6. Northeastern vs. [b][u]11. Cornell[/u][/b]

[b]Manchester[/b]
4. Massachusetts vs. [b][u]13. Harvard[/u][/b]
[b][u]5. Clarkson[/u][/b] vs. 12. Notre Dame


and USCHO

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[b]West Regional (Fargo):[/b]
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
9 Ohio State vs. 8 Denver

[b]Midwest Regional (Allentown):[/b]
15 Bowling Green vs. 2 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. [b][u]7 Quinnipiac[/u][/b]

[b]East Regional (Providence):[/b]
14 Providence vs. 3 Minnesota State
[b][u]11 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 6 Northeastern

[b]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/b]
[b][u]13 Harvard[/u][/b] vs. 4 Massachusetts
12 Notre Dame vs. [b][u]5 Clarkson[/u][/b]


[Jeff Hopkins '82]

So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts.   Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

We're likely in Providence vs. NE
Whoever ends up 3rd in pairwise after the NCHC OT game finishes will likely play Providence.

In Manchester it will be UMass vs Harvard and Clarkson vs Notre Dame unless the committee moves ND to Allentown.

Allentown will be number2 vs Bowling Green & QPeck vs OSU

Fargo will be number 1 vs AIC & Denver vs ASU.

Not quite.

If Duluth beats St.Cloud, Duluth finishes #2 and they get #15 BGSU (probably in Allentown) and since UMass can't play Providence, Mankato gets Providence and UMass gets Harvard.  But if St.Cloud beats Duluth, Duluth drops to #4 and Mankato is #2.  Mankato can't play #15 BGSU, so likely Mankato gets Harvard, UMass gets BGSU, and Duluth gets Providence.  

As said above, we get Northeastern.  The only question is where.  I think it depends on which game the committee thinks will be a better draw - QPac-ASU, NEastern-Cornell, or Clarkson-Notre Dame.

Edit:  And Duluth wins.

Don't you think tOSU will be moved to Allentown and ASU will go to Fargo?

Don't know.  It depends on what "bracket integrity" means.  If that means they keep 5-12, 6-11, etc. intact and they move the pairs around, then I think the 8-9 pairing stays intact in Fargo.  If bracket integrity simply means that they can move the 3 seeds anywhere as they see fit, then yeah, they can swap OSU and ASU as you suggest.

Personally, if I were on the committee, I could see either NEastern-Cornell or Clarkson-Notre Dame getting swapped to Allentown. I think the better choice for overall attendance is to swap NE-CU, since that puts at least two eastern schools in Allentown and two in Providence, but I can also see them putting Clarkson-Notre Dame there since Notre Dame is a midwestern school and they can rationalize the name of the regional.

But either way, I don't see much likelihood in us going to Fargo, which is just fine with me.

[CU2007]

Way more Cornell fans in Allentown vs Providence IMO. The NYC alumni can get to Allentown easily, won't bother going to providence. MAKE IT HAPPEN NC$$

[Greenberg '97]

Win two at the Dunk to earn a trip to Buffalo?  With Minnesota State in the same regional?

Seems like a novel idea.