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Started by Jim Hyla, January 17, 2018, 05:44:32 PM

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Quote from: martyIsn't Denver about to push us to #5 in the computer rankings?

They're too far behind us, believe it or not.

Good news unless it leads to Sioux Falls.

Yup. Root for Princeton, Minnesota-Duluth, and/or (not)BU.

Doesn't a BU win take away another at-large slot, meaning NoDak gets bounced?

Sorry, I had that backwards. Yes, root for BU.
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Quote from: DafatoneSo, North Dakota gets in if they win their consolation game AND Clarkson wins AND the winner of Northeastern and Providence beats BU.
But I assume the selection committee would send one of the western teams (ND/Ohio State) west to play them?

If the 1s are scsu, notre dame, osu, cornell and the 4s are Minnesota, North Dakota, WCHA, AHA, I think Cornell would go west. Top two would get the autobids and osu can't play Minnesota.
What does OSU not playing Minnesota have to do with Cornell going west? OSU not playing Minnesota means OSU would play NoDak and therefore go west instead of us, who play Minnesota, right?

Yes. I'm going to go back to sleep now or something.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

upprdeck

prov/prin/minn dul/Nor Mich knocks out ND/BC/BU  isnt that even better?

Dafatone

To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

marty

Quote from: DafatoneTo summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

In 2005 and 2006 there were no rabbits just dead half eaten crows.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

BearLover

Quote from: DafatoneTo summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.
Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

Dafatone

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Quote from: DafatoneTo summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.
Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

That's a good point. I figure if we wind up in 4th, we get the least preferential regional, Not a lot of sense in sending Notre Dame or Ohio State to Worcester or Bridgeport, I suppose.

On a related note, Allentown isn't Midwest.

marty

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Quote from: DafatoneTo summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.
Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

That's a good point. I figure if we wind up in 4th, we get the least preferential regional, Not a lot of sense in sending Notre Dame or Ohio State to Worcester or Bridgeport, I suppose.

On a related note, Allentown isn't Midwest.

No, but it is close to South Bend. Ugh.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

BearLover

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Quote from: DafatoneTo summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.
Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

That's a good point. I figure if we wind up in 4th, we get the least preferential regional, Not a lot of sense in sending Notre Dame or Ohio State to Worcester or Bridgeport, I suppose.

On a related note, Allentown isn't Midwest.
There will only be one eastern 1-seed this year. So why send them to the only western regional if not doing so would mess up the "serpentine order" (1v16, 2v15, etc.) only marginally or not at all?

Dafatone

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Quote from: DafatoneTo summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.
Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

That's a good point. I figure if we wind up in 4th, we get the least preferential regional, Not a lot of sense in sending Notre Dame or Ohio State to Worcester or Bridgeport, I suppose.

On a related note, Allentown isn't Midwest.
There will only be one eastern 1-seed this year. So why send them to the only western regional if not doing so would mess up the "serpentine order" (1v16, 2v15, etc.) only marginally or not at all?

I guess I wonder if we finish 4th (and the big10 teams get preference over us), one likely goes to the Allentown Midwest regional. St cloud can't play NoDak in the first round, so they have to go east. Or maybe to that Allentown regional (which is basically east).

So the question is, does the committee think that an eastern regional or a western regional is more "home" to OSU and ND?

redGrinch

Might be a bigger risk if DU wins and gets a 1 seed.  neither DU or SCSU can plan North Dakota.  So would they send Notre Dame there?  even still, I can't imagine the NCAA sending the only #1 seed that can bus to a regional out west.

Dafatone

Quote from: redGrinchMight be a bigger risk if DU wins and gets a 1 seed.  neither DU or SCSU can plan North Dakota.  So would they send Notre Dame there?  even still, I can't imagine the NCAA sending the only #1 seed that can bus to a regional out west.

Playing with the You Are the Committee tool, I don't think Denver can pass OSU. They can come really, really close, though.

Josh 03

Quote from: DafatoneSo the question is, does the committee think that an eastern regional or a western regional is more "home" to OSU and ND?

I would think Notre Dame to Sioux Falls. Their campus is about halfway between Sioux Falls and Allentown. Ohio State is significantly closer to Allentown so they make more sense there. Then doesn't really matter if St Cloud is in Worcester or Bridgeport. I'd say put them in Worcester because it makes more sense for Cornell to be East than Northeast. Even if they're the last #1 seed it still does something for them.

Of course if Denver knocks Cornell to the #5 spot, none of that matters.

Edit: Was forgetting about the whole Penn State in Allentown thing so never mind most of what I just said :-p
Except the part of thinking it makes most sense for Notre Dame to go to Sioux Falls.

KenP

Quote from: Josh 03Of course if Denver knocks Cornell to the #5 spot, none of that matters.
It is mathematically impossible for Cornell to be #5. They will be 3 or 4.

RichH

Quote from: DafatoneTo summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

The North Dakota Won't Ever Dies are leading 2-0, of course.