Cornell lacrosse 2018

Started by billhoward, August 07, 2017, 05:21:56 PM

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Iceberg

Lots of folks around me were complaining about officiating, and not necessarily Cornell fans either.

billhoward

Quote from: IcebergLots of folks around me were complaining about officiating, and not necessarily Cornell fans either.
Cornell played a very tight, tough defense. If Albany's attack had its way with the previous defenses, Albany fans Sunday had to choose whether the Danes finally ran into a really good defense or if they were getting shafted by the refs.

dag14

Cornell was faceguarding Nanticoke [who had something like 10 pts against Syracuse] and Albany was shadowing Teat.  With a defenseman glued to you during the entire game, it is hard to be part of the offense.  I think Cornell adjusted to this better than Albany and that is one reason their offense looked so bad until the 4th quarter.  Credit to our defense and especially Knight for slowing down a very potent offense.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: dag14Cornell was faceguarding Nanticoke [who had something like 10 pts against Syracuse] and Albany was shadowing Teat.  With a defenseman glued to you during the entire game, it is hard to be part of the offense.  I think Cornell adjusted to this better than Albany and that is one reason their offense looked so bad until the 4th quarter.  Credit to our defense and especially Knight for slowing down a very potent offense.
Interesting that when Harvard would shut off Pannell, he would stand in a corner near the end line with his defender to allow open five-on-five play in the goal area.  Teat seemed to stand with his defender in front of the crease.  To screen? To try to force his defender to slide to a dodger?   Could Teat (or Pannell back in the day) have taken the ball on restarts at the end line in order to get it in his stick?
Al DeFlorio '65

Swampy

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: dag14Cornell was faceguarding Nanticoke [who had something like 10 pts against Syracuse] and Albany was shadowing Teat.  With a defenseman glued to you during the entire game, it is hard to be part of the offense.  I think Cornell adjusted to this better than Albany and that is one reason their offense looked so bad until the 4th quarter.  Credit to our defense and especially Knight for slowing down a very potent offense.
Interesting that when Harvard would shut off Pannell, he would stand in a corner near the end line with his defender to allow open five-on-five play in the goal area.  Teat seemed to stand with his defender in front of the crease.  To screen? To try to force his defender to slide to a dodger?   Could Teat (or Pannell back in the day) have taken the ball on restarts at the end line in order to get it in his stick?

Not living close to Cornell, and with either the team not playing near me or me being unable to attend games near me, I haven't seen Teat play except on the tube. So take this for what it's worth.

From reading about Teat, he seems to be a very different player from Pannell. Pannell was very strong and could beat his man 1:1 almost at will. Teat, from what I understand, is a magician with his stick and can pass the ball through the eye of a needle.

If this assessment is right, maybe right now giving the ball to Teat on restarts might not be that effective. If he can beat an entire defense from GLE, the way Max S. did against Syracuse, then I'm wrong.

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: dag14Cornell was faceguarding Nanticoke [who had something like 10 pts against Syracuse] and Albany was shadowing Teat.  With a defenseman glued to you during the entire game, it is hard to be part of the offense.  I think Cornell adjusted to this better than Albany and that is one reason their offense looked so bad until the 4th quarter.  Credit to our defense and especially Knight for slowing down a very potent offense.
Interesting that when Harvard would shut off Pannell, he would stand in a corner near the end line with his defender to allow open five-on-five play in the goal area.  Teat seemed to stand with his defender in front of the crease.  To screen? To try to force his defender to slide to a dodger?   Could Teat (or Pannell back in the day) have taken the ball on restarts at the end line in order to get it in his stick?

Not living close to Cornell, and with either the team not playing near me or me being unable to attend games near me, I haven't seen Teat play except on the tube. So take this for what it's worth.

From reading about Teat, he seems to be a very different player from Pannell. Pannell was very strong and could beat his man 1:1 almost at will. Teat, from what I understand, is a magician with his stick and can pass the ball through the eye of a needle.

If this assessment is right, maybe right now giving the ball to Teat on restarts might not be that effective. If he can beat an entire defense from GLE, the way Max S. did against Syracuse, then I'm wrong.
Teat doesn't have to beat the entire defense once the ball's in his stick.  He has to pass the ball through the eye of a needle to someone in a position to score.  He can't do that if the ball is never in his stick.
Al DeFlorio '65

upprdeck

i get the way Albany played D on him.. I didnt get the never moving around enough to make it hard to guard him

rss77

2 things I would like rules makers to tweak:.

1.  The faceoff-Would like to see it more of a scramble.  As others have suggested setting the faceoff guys farther apart. Too much of possession rests on one player.

2. The timeout-In no other sport are timeouts used like they are in lacrosse.  That sideline scramble where Albany called timeout-I did not see clear possession.  Let the players play.

Al DeFlorio

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Al DeFlorio '65

upprdeck

hope that Colgate game doesnt come back to haunt them down the road.

Swampy

Quote from: rss772 things I would like rules makers to tweak:.

1.  The faceoff-Would like to see it more of a scramble.  As others have suggested setting the faceoff guys farther apart. Too much of possession rests on one player.

2. The timeout-In no other sport are timeouts used like they are in lacrosse.  That sideline scramble where Albany called timeout-I did not see clear possession.  Let the players play.

As with lots of stuff that's led to what, IMHO, is over-specialization in lacrosse, I'd like to see steps taken to get away from the overly specialized FOGO position. For example, except in the case of injury, whoever faces off cannot be substituted until 1-2 minutes have passed. This still would allow specialists in facing off, but at least they'd have to be able to play on the field too. Ideally, they'd be 2-way midfielders. But I'm sure some coaches would count on their specialist to win the ball and then park them on the defensive side until the time limit is up.

Still, I think the game has lost lots of its character, with platoon substitutions while others on the field wait around for the switch to finish. I'd much rather see 3-4 lines of well-rounded midfielders who play both ways than 1-2 lines of offensive or defensive specialists.

upprdeck

gonna be a cold one tonight.

upprdeck

up 16-1 entering the 4th.. can we have the colgate game back.. Hobart just beat them..   just win 3-4 faceoffs and we probably are undefeated right now.  find a way to get to 40% somehow..  50/50 today and dominated.

djk26

I like lacrosse, I just don't understand it.  How does Cornell go from losing all 24 faceoffs (or winning only 1...sources differ) in one game to winning 12/24 in the next game?  I know that Albany is a lot better than Binghamton, but that's just so dramatic.  And how does Cornell stay competitive in a game where they lose every faceoff?
David Klesh ILR '02

upprdeck

the albany kid is a beast.. it hurts more how we did almost the same vs colgate.