Basketball 2014-15

CAS · March 16, 2015, 03:11:50 PM

Steve Donahue to be next Penn coach. Discuss amongst yourselves.

underskill · March 16, 2015, 03:20:54 PM

Quote from: CASSteve Donahue to be next Penn coach. Discuss amongst yourselves.

well he wasn't going to return to Ithaca anyways, so good for Penn really.

CAS · March 16, 2015, 03:26:48 PM

Do you know if he was asked whether he would return to Ithaca?

underskill · March 16, 2015, 03:31:11 PM

Quote from: CASDo you know if he was asked whether he would return to Ithaca?

why would he make a move backwards like that? there's no way he could match that sweet 16 standard again anyways.

CAS · March 16, 2015, 03:39:44 PM

There are examples of coaches returning to their prior schools, after not succeeding at big-time programs (e.g. Buddy Teevens back to Dartmouth). Tho I doubt the call was made...

Chris '03 · March 16, 2015, 03:51:12 PM

Quote from: CASSteve Donahue to be next Penn coach. Discuss amongst yourselves.

Far from a shock. Where he wanted to be years ago.

billhoward · March 16, 2015, 08:13:46 PM

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: CASSteve Donahue to be next Penn coach. Discuss amongst yourselves.
Far from a shock. Where he wanted to be years ago.

Exactly. He wanted Philadelphia (he grew up, went to Ursinus in the suburbs), he wanted a Catholic school. Penn is one out of two. He could finish his career there. Be nice to have another Ivy be competitive again. Donahue's ideal job would be Villanova but Jay Wright has been there since 2001, since 2005 has advanced in the NCAAs most every year and if Wright hasn't succumbed to bigger money after FF and Elite 8 rounds, why would he leave now at 53 ... and why would Donahue get the Villanova job after not moving BC up the ladder? We ought to wish him well, except twice a year.

CAS · March 16, 2015, 08:37:40 PM

Only Ivy I'd like to be competitive again is Cornell.

phillysportsfan · March 17, 2015, 02:57:09 AM

Can it get any worse for Cornell basketball, are you alive Andy? Wow that was fast, never thought Donahue would go back there

http://www.espnithaca.com/common/page.php?id=4391

Quote from: http://www.thedp.com/blog/buzz/2015/03/cornell-coach-bill-courtney-on-penn-hiring-steve-donahueAnd we had an idea that we'd be a lot better this year and we'd have a chance to compete in our league and we were able to do that. We'd have liked to have won some more games but we knew we'd be able to compete and we certainly feel that our program is heading in the right direction and we're on our way up.

Courtney is out there giving delusional interviews so I guess he is back, what a joke, 5-9 in conference is not competing. Next year with no Miller they will be lucky to get 10 wins

BearLover · March 17, 2015, 03:26:31 AM

'What a joke' indeed.

Jim Hyla · March 17, 2015, 07:30:49 AM

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: CASSteve Donahue to be next Penn coach. Discuss amongst yourselves.
Far from a shock. Where he wanted to be years ago.
Exactly. He wanted Philadelphia (he grew up, went to Ursinus in the suburbs), he wanted a Catholic school. Penn is one out of two. He could finish his career there. Be nice to have another Ivy be competitive again. Donahue's ideal job would be Villanova but Jay Wright has been there since 2001, since 2005 has advanced in the NCAAs most every year and if Wright hasn't succumbed to bigger money after FF and Elite 8 rounds, why would he leave now at 53 ... and why would Donahue get the Villanova job after not moving BC up the ladder? We ought to wish him well, except twice a year.

Count me as a group of 1 that has doubts he well be Penn's return to glory. It should be easier than at Cornell, and probably easier than BC. However I'm still doubting, we'll see.

semsox · March 17, 2015, 07:32:14 AM

The biggest problem with Courtney is that he continues to run his offensive and defensive "systems" (and I hesitate to use the word since it usually implies some sort of underlying framework). I wouldn't even mind BC coming back if he actually hired an assistant coach who could bring in some structure to our offensive and defensive sets. I (like many others) have no qualms with Bill as a recruiter or as a person, but the brand of basketball he's teaching these kids is not, has not, and will not be effective.

CAS · March 17, 2015, 07:33:57 AM

We went 2-30 the last 3 years without Miller. What's the over/under for D-1 wins next year? The Cornell Basketball Blog is predicting a season similar to 2013-4 (1-26 vs D-1 teams).

phillysportsfan · March 17, 2015, 08:23:24 AM

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: CASSteve Donahue to be next Penn coach. Discuss amongst yourselves.
Far from a shock. Where he wanted to be years ago.
Exactly. He wanted Philadelphia (he grew up, went to Ursinus in the suburbs), he wanted a Catholic school. Penn is one out of two. He could finish his career there. Be nice to have another Ivy be competitive again. Donahue's ideal job would be Villanova but Jay Wright has been there since 2001, since 2005 has advanced in the NCAAs most every year and if Wright hasn't succumbed to bigger money after FF and Elite 8 rounds, why would he leave now at 53 ... and why would Donahue get the Villanova job after not moving BC up the ladder? We ought to wish him well, except twice a year.

Count me as a group of 1 that has doubts he well be Penn's return to glory. It should be easier than at Cornell, and probably easier than BC. However I'm still doubting, we'll see.

He cant do worse than Allen did, they'll at least be more competitive and probably compete for the league title in a few years. I dont think they will return to the absolute dominance their alumni except as Harvard and Amaker arent going anywhere and more teams in the league have started to care since our sweet 16 run. It is just tough to see Donahue go there while we spin in circles

Chris '03 · March 17, 2015, 08:53:13 AM

Quote from: phillysportsfan
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: CASSteve Donahue to be next Penn coach. Discuss amongst yourselves.
Far from a shock. Where he wanted to be years ago.
Exactly. He wanted Philadelphia (he grew up, went to Ursinus in the suburbs), he wanted a Catholic school. Penn is one out of two. He could finish his career there. Be nice to have another Ivy be competitive again. Donahue's ideal job would be Villanova but Jay Wright has been there since 2001, since 2005 has advanced in the NCAAs most every year and if Wright hasn't succumbed to bigger money after FF and Elite 8 rounds, why would he leave now at 53 ... and why would Donahue get the Villanova job after not moving BC up the ladder? We ought to wish him well, except twice a year.

Count me as a group of 1 that has doubts he well be Penn's return to glory. It should be easier than at Cornell, and probably easier than BC. However I'm still doubting, we'll see.

He cant do worse than Allen did, they'll at least be more competitive and probably compete for the league title in a few years. I dont think they will return to the absolute dominance their alumni except as Harvard and Amaker arent going anywhere and more teams in the league have started to care since our sweet 16 run. It is just tough to see Donahue go there while we spin in circles

If it makes you feel any better, he probably would have left Cornell for this opportunity had he not gone to BC in 2010. He's a Philly guy through and through.

I don't think he'll oversee a bunch of 14-0 Penn teams because the traditional Penn advantages have been eroded by, among other things, the financial aid opportunities at the wealthier Ivies. Yale, longtime also rans in hockey and basketball, just pulled off a rare combination: MIH & MBB Ivy titles in the same season. Ivy talent doesn't all run through the Ps anymore.

I hate Penn but I wish Coach D luck. He's a good guy. Hopefully he can make some noise in the Big 5 and help raise the Ivy League's reputation.