Cornell @ Harvard Lax

Started by RichH, April 06, 2013, 01:39:05 PM

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Ken70

Sitting in the stands we didn't look like a top 5 team for the first 50 minutes today.

Harvard outplayed us for 3 and 1/4 periods.  They had more patience on offense and found good shooting situations consistently.  Defensively they looked every bit as good. From the X we were just miserable.  

Then we got serious,like we knew we could get it done in the waning minutes, so why work hard before?  From about 9 to go we played like a number 2 team. Happens over and over again in college lacrosse.

One strange and uncomfortable moment was very early.  "Beating his chest", an image usually only literally seen in grade B movies.  But after a clever underhanded goal just a couple minutes in Pannell literally beat his chest in celebration of himself.  It clearly wasn't a game defining moment for his team, but one just for him.  It seemed very self absorbed, and unusually so.

Redscore

Quote from: Ken70One strange and uncomfortable moment was very early.  "Beating his chest", an image usually only literally seen in grade B movies.  But after a clever underhanded goal just a couple minutes in Pannell literally beat his chest in celebration of himself.  It clearly wasn't a game defining moment for his team, but one just for him.  It seemed very self absorbed, and unusually so.

Agreed....  but it was one heck of a goal,  I will not hold that against a player who has always put the team ahead of himself.  I'm just enjoying this ride and not in the mood to pee on my own team.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Redscore
Quote from: Ken70One strange and uncomfortable moment was very early.  "Beating his chest", an image usually only literally seen in grade B movies.  But after a clever underhanded goal just a couple minutes in Pannell literally beat his chest in celebration of himself.  It clearly wasn't a game defining moment for his team, but one just for him.  It seemed very self absorbed, and unusually so.

Agreed....  but it was one heck of a goal,  I will not hold that against a player who has always put the team ahead of himself.  I'm just enjoying this ride and not in the mood to pee on my own team.
+1
Al DeFlorio '65

RichH

Quote from: billhowardRich, thanks for posting. I never thought Harvard would give away something of value.

But if you wanted to see Cornell-Harvard softball, it would have cost you $5.  Maybe Harvard knew the lax would bring in more of a broader following, so they dropped the pay wall to showcase Harvard.

billhoward

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: billhowardRich, thanks for posting. I never thought Harvard would give away something of value.
But if you wanted to see Cornell-Harvard softball, it would have cost you $5.  Maybe Harvard knew the lax would bring in more of a broader following, so they dropped the pay wall to showcase Harvard.
That is probably the reason. Maybe Harvard smelled upset. Maybe Harvard thought this sport only lasted 3 periods. Someday I'm going to write an article on the economics of pay-per-view college sports videos. Outside the B1G sports at the big schools, I bet it loses money and what little you bring it, the provider of the feed takes most of that small amount. The net benefit would be to make it free for all sports. The majority of people watching the softball feed were probably parents. Who are already in for fifty grand a year in tuition and fees.

billhoward

Quote from: RichHHarvard's Lacrosse video is free today:
http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/harvard.portal#
Go the archived (On Demand) videos section. Pick up the feed at about 22:30. (The video scrubbing is imprecise, so if you get to around 21:00, just watch until it comes up.) Fiore makes a save, Cornell clears to midfield. Pannell picks up the ball at midfield. Runs clockwise behind the net, comes front right, circles, turns, picks up defenders, turns some more, and shoots low, blind, and sort of not looking at the net. Not highlights-reel pretty because there's no fluid over-the-head arcing motion. If he's thumping his chest (as Ken70 notes), it feels more like one of those thank you, Lord or good to be alive moments more than dang, I'm good gestures.

This tied the score at 2-all. Harvard was impressed enough to run an instant replay of the shot, giving away time that could have gone to a still photo of the Crimson Golfer of the Week.

Towerroad

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: RichHHarvard's Lacrosse video is free today:
http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/harvard.portal#
Go the archived (On Demand) videos section. Pick up the feed at about 22:30. (The video scrubbing is imprecise, so if you get to around 21:00, just watch until it comes up.) Fiore makes a save, Cornell clears to midfield. Pannell picks up the ball at midfield. Runs clockwise behind the net, comes front right, circles, turns, picks up defenders, turns some more, and shoots low, blind, and sort of not looking at the net. Not highlights-reel pretty because there's no fluid over-the-head arcing motion. If he's thumping his chest (as Ken70 notes), it feels more like one of those thank you, Lord or good to be alive moments more than dang, I'm good gestures.

This tied the score at 2-all. Harvard was impressed enough to run an instant replay of the shot, giving away time that could have gone to a still photo of the Crimson Golfer of the Week.

Pretty impressive.

billhoward

Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: RichHHarvard's Lacrosse video is free today:
http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/harvard.portal#
Go the archived (On Demand) videos section. Pick up the feed at about 22:30. (The video scrubbing is imprecise, so if you get to around 21:00, just watch until it comes up.) Fiore makes a save, Cornell clears to midfield. Pannell picks up the ball at midfield. Runs clockwise behind the net, comes front right, circles, turns, picks up defenders, turns some more, and shoots low, blind, and sort of not looking at the net. Not highlights-reel pretty because there's no fluid over-the-head arcing motion. If he's thumping his chest (as Ken70 notes), it feels more like one of those thank you, Lord or good to be alive moments more than dang, I'm good gestures.

This tied the score at 2-all. Harvard was impressed enough to run an instant replay of the shot, giving away time that could have gone to a still photo of the Crimson Golfer of the Week.

Pretty impressive.
I hear Brown is adding this clip to the Yann Denis Rhymes With Hobey minisite.

Robb

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: RichHHarvard's Lacrosse video is free today:
http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/harvard.portal#
Go the archived (On Demand) videos section. Pick up the feed at about 22:30. (The video scrubbing is imprecise, so if you get to around 21:00, just watch until it comes up.) Fiore makes a save, Cornell clears to midfield. Pannell picks up the ball at midfield. Runs clockwise behind the net, comes front right, circles, turns, picks up defenders, turns some more, and shoots low, blind, and sort of not looking at the net. Not highlights-reel pretty because there's no fluid over-the-head arcing motion. If he's thumping his chest (as Ken70 notes), it feels more like one of those thank you, Lord or good to be alive moments more than dang, I'm good gestures.

This tied the score at 2-all. Harvard was impressed enough to run an instant replay of the shot, giving away time that could have gone to a still photo of the Crimson Golfer of the Week.
I definitely saw no questionable chest thumping in that clip - he opens his arms to hug a teammate who is approaching, hugs all around, and then after the scrum breaks up, he uses both hands to underline where it says "Cornell" on his chest.  Hardly gaudy self-promotion if you ask me.
Let's Go RED!

Towerroad

Quote from: Robb
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: RichHHarvard's Lacrosse video is free today:
http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/harvard.portal#
Go the archived (On Demand) videos section. Pick up the feed at about 22:30. (The video scrubbing is imprecise, so if you get to around 21:00, just watch until it comes up.) Fiore makes a save, Cornell clears to midfield. Pannell picks up the ball at midfield. Runs clockwise behind the net, comes front right, circles, turns, picks up defenders, turns some more, and shoots low, blind, and sort of not looking at the net. Not highlights-reel pretty because there's no fluid over-the-head arcing motion. If he's thumping his chest (as Ken70 notes), it feels more like one of those thank you, Lord or good to be alive moments more than dang, I'm good gestures.

This tied the score at 2-all. Harvard was impressed enough to run an instant replay of the shot, giving away time that could have gone to a still photo of the Crimson Golfer of the Week.
I definitely saw no questionable chest thumping in that clip - he opens his arms to hug a teammate who is approaching, hugs all around, and then after the scrum breaks up, he uses both hands to underline where it says "Cornell" on his chest.  Hardly gaudy self-promotion if you ask me.

I thought he had just motioned that he had ripped their hearts out.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: RobbI definitely saw no questionable chest thumping in that clip - he opens his arms to hug a teammate who is approaching, hugs all around, and then after the scrum breaks up, he uses both hands to underline where it says "Cornell" on his chest.  Hardly gaudy self-promotion if you ask me.
Just watched the clip and that's exactly what I saw.  Much ado about nothing.
Al DeFlorio '65

billhoward

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: RobbI definitely saw no questionable chest thumping in that clip - he opens his arms to hug a teammate who is approaching, hugs all around, and then after the scrum breaks up, he uses both hands to underline where it says "Cornell" on his chest.  Hardly gaudy self-promotion if you ask me.
Just watched the clip and that's exactly what I saw.  Much ado about nothing.
Well, it got me to spend 10 minutes finding the video and time-in rather than ask someone else to do it.

billhoward

About what you'd expect:

Cornell 14, Harvard 12  -- a little closer than I expected (hoped?)
Yale 7, Dartmouth 5 -- shouldn't have been so close
Penn 10, Brown 3 -- maybe should have been closer
Syracuse 13, Princeton 12 -- Syracuse scored the last 3 goals, at Princeton

Ivy records
Cornell      4-0 to play at Brown, Princeton @ Meadowlands in Ivies
Princeton    2-1 to play at Dartmouth, Harvard, Cornell
Penn         2-2
Yale         2-2
Brown        1-2
Harvard      1-2
Dartmouth    0-3

Cornell beats Princeton, we host the Ivy tournament (unless Brown wins out, meaning we could lose out to Brown in the H2H, but then Princeton could be ahead of us too by winnng out). Too bad we don't have the bye weekend before Princeton not before Brown. I think those are the possibilities. Since we've beaten Penn and Yale, they can't beat us H2H.  

For Cornell, first, Syracuse Wednesday on ESPNU. then a bye weekend.

Tom Lento

Quote from: billhowardAbout what you'd expect:

Cornell 14, Harvard 12  -- a little closer than I expected (hoped?)
Yale 7, Dartmouth 5 -- shouldn't have been so close
Penn 10, Brown 3 -- maybe should have been closer
Syracuse 13, Princeton 12 -- Syracuse scored the last 3 goals, at Princeton

Ivy records
Cornell      4-0 to play at Brown, Princeton @ Meadowlands in Ivies
Princeton    2-1 to play at Dartmouth, Harvard, Cornell
Penn         2-2
Yale         2-2
Brown        1-2
Harvard      1-2
Dartmouth    0-3

Cornell beats Princeton, we host the Ivy tournament (unless Brown wins out, meaning we could lose out to Brown in the H2H, but then Princeton could be ahead of us too by winnng out). Too bad we don't have the bye weekend before Princeton not before Brown. I think those are the possibilities. Since we've beaten Penn and Yale, they can't beat us H2H.  

For Cornell, first, Syracuse Wednesday on ESPNU. then a bye weekend.

Actually, Cornell clinches first place outright with a win over Princeton. I'm hardly an expert, but it seems like beating Brown still matters for at-large and seeding purposes regardless of the outcome of the Princeton game. Besides, if Princeton loses one other game a win over Brown clinches home field.

Al DeFlorio

Mock is now the leading goal scorer in Division I with 37, and in goals per game with 3.4.
Al DeFlorio '65