ECAC back to Lake Placid 2014

[RatushnyFan]

He obviously is a professional wrestler.  Proficient in barfights.  My money is on Al at LP in 2013.  Restrictive hotel policies BE DAMNED, I'M COMING REGARDLESS!!!!

I am partial to beer and wings, still have some upstate NYer in me.  I will make it work.  That is if I can make it.  LP is awfully far away.

[Repeat, repeat, repeat]

Any news on the team?  Is Espo still wearing that protective boot?

Bitter thread drift, I apologize.

[jtn27]

The Messa Faithful would sell out The Garden. They are the best fans in college hockey. We, well, we are just "disgusting" as I was informed in AC.

A Union fan called you (all of us?) "disgusting"? That's pretty funny.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

The Messa Faithful would sell out The Garden. They are the best fans in college hockey. We, well, we are just "disgusting" as I was informed in AC.

A Union fan called you (all of us?) "disgusting"? That's pretty funny.

It was the collective all of us. At that time he was behind me in the seats and I had taken off my jersey so he did not know that we were Cornell fans...until we joined in the taunting of both Sucks and Union. My only thought was, it is a good thing that Union has no fans loyal enough to make the trek out to Yost. Imagine what they would think of those fans.

[Towerroad]

A question:

The Olympic Size ice in Lake Placid is wider and slightly shorter than the traditional rinks the ECAC plays on. Does that favor or hurt us?

[Beeeej]

A question:

The Olympic Size ice in Lake Placid is wider and slightly shorter than the traditional rinks the ECAC plays on. Does that favor or hurt us?

The ice in Herb Brooks Arena is 200x100 last I checked; Lynah is 200x85.  That's wider but not shorter.

[KeithK]

A question:

The Olympic Size ice in Lake Placid is wider and slightly shorter than the traditional rinks the ECAC plays on. Does that favor or hurt us?

The ice in Herb Brooks Arena is 200x100 last I checked; Lynah is 200x85.  That's wider but not shorter.

Cornell played extremely well on the big ice in Colorado Springs last January (at least until they were totally gassed). So I don't think the big ice would hurt us. The program has changed since the last time we played in LP.

[Robb]

A question:

The Olympic Size ice in Lake Placid is wider and slightly shorter than the traditional rinks the ECAC plays on. Does that favor or hurt us?

The ice in Herb Brooks Arena is 200x100 last I checked; Lynah is 200x85.  That's wider but not shorter.

Cornell played extremely well on the big ice in Colorado Springs last January (at least until they were totally gassed). So I don't think the big ice would hurt us. The program has changed since the last time we played in LP.

for the record, our record in the ECACs at Lake Placid:

1996: 2-0 (whoohoo)
1997: 2-0 (whoohoo)
1998: 0-1 (lost play-in game)
2000; 1-2 (won play in, lost consy)
2001: 1-1 (2nd place)
2002: 1-1 (2nd place. lost in 2OT)

Overall: 7-5, with 4 trips to the final and 2 championships.  Not too shabby, overall, and hard to complain TOO much about the last time we played there.  

[KeithK]

A question:

The Olympic Size ice in Lake Placid is wider and slightly shorter than the traditional rinks the ECAC plays on. Does that favor or hurt us?

The ice in Herb Brooks Arena is 200x100 last I checked; Lynah is 200x85.  That's wider but not shorter.

Cornell played extremely well on the big ice in Colorado Springs last January (at least until they were totally gassed). So I don't think the big ice would hurt us. The program has changed since the last time we played in LP.

for the record, our record in the ECACs at Lake Placid:

1996: 2-0 (whoohoo)
1997: 2-0 (whoohoo)
1998: 0-1 (lost play-in game)
2000; 1-2 (won play in, lost consy)
2001: 1-1 (2nd place)
2002: 1-1 (2nd place. lost in 2OT)

Overall: 7-5, with 4 trips to the final and 2 championships.  Not too shabby, overall, and hard to complain TOO much about the last time we played there.  

Agreed!  My point is that the ice size probably had more of a negative impact on Cornell teams ten years ago than it would today. Even then the effect was not large enough to, by itself, determine the result of the tournament.

[Jim Hyla]

Steve Hagwell will be on Ken Schott's radio program, "Slap Schotts", Thursday AM to discuss the ECAC move. If I remember from last year, there is a online or podcast replay afterward. I plan on asking about the hotel situation. Maybe someone wants to ask about official date for coaches practices.

[Jim Hyla]

Steve Hagwell will be on Ken Schott's radio program, "Slap Schotts", Thursday AM to discuss the ECAC move. If I remember from last year, there is a online or podcast replay afterward. I plan on asking about the hotel situation. Maybe someone wants to ask about official date for coaches practices.

Mr. Hagwell said he's going to LP this week and will bring up the cancelation policy. In a later email to me, he agreed that before the quarterfinals was not how it should be.

[Jordan 04]

Steve Hagwell will be on Ken Schott's radio program, "Slap Schotts", Thursday AM to discuss the ECAC move. If I remember from last year, there is a online or podcast replay afterward. I plan on asking about the hotel situation. Maybe someone wants to ask about official date for coaches practices.

Mr. Hagwell said he's going to LP this week and will bring up the cancelation policy. In a later email to me, he agreed that before the quarterfinals was not how it should be.

So the league didn't address it at all before signing up for LP?

[Al DeFlorio]

Steve Hagwell will be on Ken Schott's radio program, "Slap Schotts", Thursday AM to discuss the ECAC move. If I remember from last year, there is a online or podcast replay afterward. I plan on asking about the hotel situation. Maybe someone wants to ask about official date for coaches practices.

Mr. Hagwell said he's going to LP this week and will bring up the cancelation policy. In a later email to me, he agreed that before the quarterfinals was not how it should be.

So the league didn't address it at all before signing up for LP?

You thought they would?  These are the genii who signed up for Atlantic City.

[billhoward]

Steve Hagwell will be on Ken Schott's radio program, "Slap Schotts", Thursday AM to discuss the ECAC move. If I remember from last year, there is a online or podcast replay afterward. I plan on asking about the hotel situation. Maybe someone wants to ask about official date for coaches practices.

Mr. Hagwell said he's going to LP this week and will bring up the cancelation policy. In a later email to me, he agreed that before the quarterfinals was not how it should be.

So the league didn't address it at all before signing up for LP?

Unclear what sway the arena schedulers / bookers have over the individual hotels. Unless when the arena books other events it puts the hotels that have been nice, not the ones who've been naughty, on an approved lodging list. The ECAC certainly doesn't want to be in the business of guaranteeing hotel rooms and finding the final four teams are all low-draw schools.

[Al DeFlorio]

Steve Hagwell will be on Ken Schott's radio program, "Slap Schotts", Thursday AM to discuss the ECAC move. If I remember from last year, there is a online or podcast replay afterward. I plan on asking about the hotel situation. Maybe someone wants to ask about official date for coaches practices.

Mr. Hagwell said he's going to LP this week and will bring up the cancelation policy. In a later email to me, he agreed that before the quarterfinals was not how it should be.

So the league didn't address it at all before signing up for LP?

Unclear what sway the arena schedulers / bookers have over the individual hotels. Unless when the arena books other events it puts the hotels that have been nice, not the ones who've been naughty, on an approved lodging list. The ECAC certainly doesn't want to be in the business of guaranteeing hotel rooms and finding the final four teams are all low-draw schools.

Seems to me the ECACH could have told the LP organizers to get the hotels to commit or forget about hosting the tournament.

[billhoward]

We have a cabin outside Lake Placid and spend time in town; over the summer I heard a number of merchants in LP complaining about how disorganized Lake Placid's promotions efforts are. Which could mean they're disorganized or business is never good enough to suit the merchants and of course it's somebody else's fault. So if this sampling of merchants is typical, it might be hard to get them to see things Lake Placid's way. For us personally, we'd be hard-pressed to want to book a room in advance on the chance we're not seeing Cornell play.

(One of the merchant complaints seemed basic and legit: They just want a timely summary of what's going on in town at the arena, expected attendance, and when the event lets out, so they can decide to bring on extra wait staff. This complaint I heard as the bar was wall-to-wall lacrosse players. LP's summer lax tournaments are big draws.)