Cornell lacrosse in 2011

[scoop85]

Brown with 27 turnovers!  Wow.

They've been awful. I wonder if Tiffany wishes he took the Penn State job now :-}

[kingpin248]

First the small matter of getting past Brown Saturday. Cornell's senior class came up short the last trip to Providence and is 2-2 (including a playoff game) vs. Brown. A win gives Cornell the Ivy League regular season title and puts the Ivy playoffs in Ithaca.

Fixed, as was already discussed upthread.

We just clinched home field in the Ivy League automatic bid tournament, or whatever you want to call it with Princeton's 9-8 defeat at home against Harvard.  Amazingly, I think Princeton is still alive for that 4th seed even if we beat them next week with a 2-4 record.  They wouldn't have the tiebreaker against Harvard, and I think Harvard would come out of a 3-way tie with Brown being the third team, but if Dartmouth beats Brown next week (this scenario involves us beating Brown today), the head-to-head would be 1-1 for Princeton, Harvard, and Dartmouth.  I'm not sure how that tie would be broken, so maybe I'm wrong and Princeton needs to beat us to get in?

Based on today's results, I make out the following possible scenarios depending on next week's results (tournament seeds listed in order):

If Harvard wins: Cornell, Penn, Harvard, Yale

If Yale and Princeton win: Cornell, Penn, Yale, Princeton

If Yale, Cornell, and Brown win: Cornell, Penn, Yale, Harvard

If Yale, Cornell and Dartmouth win: Cornell, Penn, Yale, (random draw among Harvard, Princeton, and Dartmouth)

[Ronald '09]

Ivy Leauge Champs!

(Yeah I know we clinched it earlier.  This feels better.)

We did clinch the outright Ivy League title with our win today.  We clinched home field earlier.  If we lost today and to Princeton, we theoretically could have ended up tied with Penn and/or Yale for the regular season title.  So we clinched two different things at two different times today.

The final was 18-5 for anyone who is trying to follow through this thread.

[billhoward]

Nice way to lay out the scenarios while avoiding being hammered if you should describe adequately the team that finishes with the best Ivy record but use the phrase that is not officially approved.

[Ben]

Courtesy of cornellbigred.com:

Ben DeLuca becomes the first Cornell coach to win an Ivy title in his first season since Richie Moran (1969) and the first to win the outright conference crown in his rookie season since Ned Harkness (1966)

That bodes very well.

[Swampy]

Courtesy of cornellbigred.com:

Ben DeLuca becomes the  first Cornell coach to win an Ivy title in his first season since Richie Moran (1969) and the first to win the outright conference crown in his rookie season since Ned Harkness (1966)

That bodes very well.

Elite company indeed! What's impressive is how this young team has both improved and gained confidence as the season has progressed. At a minimum, between now and Memorial Day 2012 we have a lot to look forward to. ::banana::

[billhoward]

Courtesy of cornellbigred.com:

Ben DeLuca becomes the  first Cornell coach to win an Ivy title in his first season since Richie Moran (1969) and the first to win the outright conference crown in his rookie season since Ned Harkness (1966)

That bodes very well.

Elite company indeed! What's impressive is how this young team has both improved and gained confidence as the season has progressed. At a minimum, between now and Memorial Day 2012 we have a lot to look forward to. ::banana::

Here's hoping for a national championship and rain-free Slope Day. Not sure which will be tougher this year. In the meantime, let's dismantle Princeton and roar into the Ivy playoffs / playdown / whatever and root for Syracuse to take down #1 Notre Dame Saturday at the Carrier Dome (7 pm start). Cornell is still #3 [edit: not #2, that's media poll] in the coaches' poll.

[jeff '84]

From Inside Lacrosse:

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/22/quint-kessenich-who-should-win-2011-tewaaraton

Quint Kessenich answers: Who Should Win the 2011 Tewaaraton?


"The Tewaaraton has typically gone to the best player on the best team. Playoff wins and exposure during the NCAA tournament have meant a ton. But this year is different. The best player resides in Ithaca, N.Y., and it isn't debateable. Start engraving the trophy with the name Rob Pannell."

[Josh '99]

From Inside Lacrosse:

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/22/quint-kessenich-who-should-win-2011-tewaaraton

Quint Kessenich answers: Who Should Win the 2011 Tewaaraton?


"The Tewaaraton has typically gone to the best player on the best team. Playoff wins and exposure during the NCAA tournament have meant a ton. But this year is different. The best player resides in Ithaca, N.Y., and it isn't debateable. Start engraving the trophy with the name Rob Pannell."

It's tough to argue with him here; Pannell's 5.67 points per game are more than a point better than the next guys (Jeremy Boltus of Army and Scott Perri of Drexel at 4.62), and none of the other top teams have anybody even close.

[Swampy]

From Inside Lacrosse:

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/22/quint-kessenich-who-should-win-2011-tewaaraton

Quint Kessenich answers: Who Should Win the 2011 Tewaaraton?


"The Tewaaraton has typically gone to the best player on the best team. Playoff wins and exposure during the NCAA tournament have meant a ton. But this year is different. The best player resides in Ithaca, N.Y., and it isn't debateable. Start engraving the trophy with the name Rob Pannell."

It's tough to argue with him here; Pannell's 5.67 points per game are more than a point better than the next guys (Jeremy Boltus of Army and Scott Perri of Drexel at 4.62), and none of the other top teams have anybody even close.

Well, I might want to nit pick with him. He says, the award "has typically gone to the best player on the best team. ,,, But this year is different." He goes on to talk about Pannell, but he never justifies his claim that this year is different. I don't see how it's any different. ::innocent::

[Robb]

From Inside Lacrosse:

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/22/quint-kessenich-who-should-win-2011-tewaaraton

Quint Kessenich answers: Who Should Win the 2011 Tewaaraton?


"The Tewaaraton has typically gone to the best player on the best team. Playoff wins and exposure during the NCAA tournament have meant a ton. But this year is different. The best player resides in Ithaca, N.Y., and it isn't debateable. Start engraving the trophy with the name Rob Pannell."

It's tough to argue with him here; Pannell's 5.67 points per game are more than a point better than the next guys (Jeremy Boltus of Army and Scott Perri of Drexel at 4.62), and none of the other top teams have anybody even close.

Well, I might want to nit pick with him. He says, the award "has typically gone to the best player on the best team. ,,, But this year is different." He goes on to talk about Pannell, but he never justifies his claim that this year is different. I don't see how it's any different. ::innocent::

Does he really need to mention that there's a nearly consensus #1 team which is not named "Cornell?"  If this year were no different, then the favorite would be Notre Dame's best player.

[Josh '99]

From Inside Lacrosse:

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/22/quint-kessenich-who-should-win-2011-tewaaraton

Quint Kessenich answers: Who Should Win the 2011 Tewaaraton?


"The Tewaaraton has typically gone to the best player on the best team. Playoff wins and exposure during the NCAA tournament have meant a ton. But this year is different. The best player resides in Ithaca, N.Y., and it isn't debateable. Start engraving the trophy with the name Rob Pannell."

It's tough to argue with him here; Pannell's 5.67 points per game are more than a point better than the next guys (Jeremy Boltus of Army and Scott Perri of Drexel at 4.62), and none of the other top teams have anybody even close.

Well, I might want to nit pick with him. He says, the award "has typically gone to the best player on the best team. ,,, But this year is different." He goes on to talk about Pannell, but he never justifies his claim that this year is different. I don't see how it's any different. ::innocent::

I thought he was fairly clear about the point that this year is (perhaps he meant "should be" but that's nitpicking) different because Pannell is scoring at such a ridiculous pace.

[Swampy]

From Inside Lacrosse:

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/22/quint-kessenich-who-should-win-2011-tewaaraton

Quint Kessenich answers: Who Should Win the 2011 Tewaaraton?


"The Tewaaraton has typically gone to the best player on the best team. Playoff wins and exposure during the NCAA tournament have meant a ton. But this year is different. The best player resides in Ithaca, N.Y., and it isn't debateable. Start engraving the trophy with the name Rob Pannell."

It's tough to argue with him here; Pannell's 5.67 points per game are more than a point better than the next guys (Jeremy Boltus of Army and Scott Perri of Drexel at 4.62), and none of the other top teams have anybody even close.

Well, I might want to nit pick with him. He says, the award "has typically gone to the best player on the best team. ,,, But this year is different." He goes on to talk about Pannell, but he never justifies his claim that this year is different. I don't see how it's any different. ::innocent::

Does he really need to mention that there's a nearly consensus #1 team which is not named "Cornell?"  If this year were no different, then the favorite would be Notre Dame's best player.

I think we'll know more about Notre Dame's claim to be the best team after this Saturday (and the following Friday). To appease the woofing gods: we'll also know more about where Cornell stands after this Saturday and the month of May.

As was proven on April 12, a consensus #1 team in April is not necessarily the #1 team on Memorial Day.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

From Inside Lacrosse:

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/22/quint-kessenich-who-should-win-2011-tewaaraton

Quint Kessenich answers: Who Should Win the 2011 Tewaaraton?


"The Tewaaraton has typically gone to the best player on the best team. Playoff wins and exposure during the NCAA tournament have meant a ton. But this year is different. The best player resides in Ithaca, N.Y., and it isn't debateable. Start engraving the trophy with the name Rob Pannell."

It's tough to argue with him here; Pannell's 5.67 points per game are more than a point better than the next guys (Jeremy Boltus of Army and Scott Perri of Drexel at 4.62), and none of the other top teams have anybody even close.

Well, I might want to nit pick with him. He says, the award "has typically gone to the best player on the best team. ,,, But this year is different." He goes on to talk about Pannell, but he never justifies his claim that this year is different. I don't see how it's any different. ::innocent::

Does he really need to mention that there's a nearly consensus #1 team which is not named "Cornell?"  If this year were no different, then the favorite would be Notre Dame's best player.

I think we'll know more about Notre Dame's claim to be the best team after this Saturday (and the following Friday). To appease the woofing gods: we'll also know more about where Cornell stands after this Saturday and the month of May.

As was proven on April 12, a consensus #1 team in April is not necessarily the #1 team on Memorial Day.

As was proven a few years ago, a consensus #1 team in mid-May is not necessarily even the #1 seed three weeks before Memorial Day...::wank::

[TimV]

Courtesy of cornellbigred.com:

Ben DeLuca becomes the first Cornell coach to win an Ivy title in his first season since Richie Moran (1969) and the first to win the outright conference crown in his rookie season since Ned Harkness (1966)

That bodes very well.

Awwwwwwww...  That Harkness guy just did it with Bob Cullen's recruits...::nut::