Final Four (all games)

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billhoward

Quote from: rediceOne small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that.   I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand.   Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night.   Not hard shots.   Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared.   We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot.   In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand.   They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).
Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

Jim Hyla

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: rediceOne small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that.   I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand.   Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night.   Not hard shots.   Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared.   We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot.   In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand.   They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).
Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

redice

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: rediceOne small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that.   I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand.   Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night.   Not hard shots.   Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared.   We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot.   In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand.   They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).
Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

While your points are valid, I still think that encouraging the use of backhand shots (even if only occasionally) could help the offensive output without any change in style and certainly no decrease in our defensive posture.   Think of the scoring opportunities that are not even considered because the player can't get the puck onto his forehand and still have a shot.   Those are the missed opportunities that I'm lamenting.   It's part of a skill set that I think they need to work on....What could it possibly hurt?
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Jim Hyla

Quote from: redice
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: rediceOne small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that.   I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand.   Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night.   Not hard shots.   Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared.   We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot.   In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand.   They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).
Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

While your points are valid, I still think that encouraging the use of backhand shots (even if only occasionally) could help the offensive output without any change in style and certainly no decrease in our defensive posture.   Think of the scoring opportunities that are not even considered because the player can't get the puck onto his forehand and still have a shot.   Those are the missed opportunities that I'm lamenting.   It's part of a skill set that I think they need to work on....What could it possibly hurt?
I think that the problem is not so much a backhand/forehand one, although heaven knows Melrose loved the backhand, but that sometimes a quick shot is better than a hard shot. A wrister may be better than a slap shot. You just catch the goalie out of position.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

redice

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: redice
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: rediceOne small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that.   I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand.   Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night.   Not hard shots.   Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared.   We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot.   In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand.   They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).
Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

While your points are valid, I still think that encouraging the use of backhand shots (even if only occasionally) could help the offensive output without any change in style and certainly no decrease in our defensive posture.   Think of the scoring opportunities that are not even considered because the player can't get the puck onto his forehand and still have a shot.   Those are the missed opportunities that I'm lamenting.   It's part of a skill set that I think they need to work on....What could it possibly hurt?
I think that the problem is not so much a backhand/forehand one, although heaven knows Melrose loved the backhand, but that sometimes a quick shot is better than a hard shot. A wrister may be better than a slap shot. You just catch the goalie out of position.

You right, Jim.   It's not an issue of forehand/backhand.   It's just the fact that, rather than take that quick backhand shot, they make some other move (pass it, bring it to the forehand, etc).   If that quick shot is a backhand, take it!!   That's not happening now....I think they lack confidence in it.   Thus, my feeling that they should practice it.
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

mnagowski

Greening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

http://www.cornell.edu/video/
The moniker formally know as metaezra.
http://www.metaezra.com

judy

Quote from: mnagowskiGreening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

http://www.cornell.edu/video/

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

Rita

Quote from: judy
Quote from: mnagowskiGreening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

http://www.cornell.edu/video/

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

Wow, that was cool that he heard and saw us. I hope the GM and hockey guys in Ottawa watch this link to see what a fantastic person they have drafted. I really hope Colin lands in a good organization that will use and appreciate his talents.

Have I mentioned how much I am going to miss Greening? ::cry::

RichH

Quote from: judy
Quote from: mnagowskiGreening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

http://www.cornell.edu/video/

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

You forgot who you were sitting with. ::scream::

And it really wasn't that bad for sound, considering the size.  Scersk and I did an echo test, and ruled that it wasn't as sound-sucking as we thought.

David Harding

Quote from: mnagowskiGreening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

http://www.cornell.edu/video/
He has class.  The only other fans he gives any credit to are, you know, the Clarkson fans.  Also, note that he has been impressed with how well in sync the Cornell cheers are.

judy

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: judy
Quote from: mnagowskiGreening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

http://www.cornell.edu/video/

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

You forgot who you were sitting with. ::scream::

And it really wasn't that bad for sound, considering the size.  Scersk and I did an echo test, and ruled that it wasn't as sound-sucking as we thought.

I know you're loud, but it didn't seem like it carried all that far beyond our section.

mnagowski

Quote from: judy
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: judy
Quote from: mnagowskiGreening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

http://www.cornell.edu/video/

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

You forgot who you were sitting with. ::scream::

And it really wasn't that bad for sound, considering the size.  Scersk and I did an echo test, and ruled that it wasn't as sound-sucking as we thought.

I know you're loud, but it didn't seem like it carried all that far beyond our section.

I think we're all forgetting that Colin Greening has super-human hearing to go along with the rest of his super-human self.
The moniker formally know as metaezra.
http://www.metaezra.com

Roy 82

Quote from: mnagowskiI think we're all forgetting that Colin Greening has super-human hearing to go along with the rest of his super-human self.

But he also said that the CU pep band was the best so I am not too sure of his hearing. :-D

amerks127

Quote from: redice
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: redice
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: rediceOne small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that.   I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand.   Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night.   Not hard shots.   Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared.   We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot.   In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand.   They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).
Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

While your points are valid, I still think that encouraging the use of backhand shots (even if only occasionally) could help the offensive output without any change in style and certainly no decrease in our defensive posture.   Think of the scoring opportunities that are not even considered because the player can't get the puck onto his forehand and still have a shot.   Those are the missed opportunities that I'm lamenting.   It's part of a skill set that I think they need to work on....What could it possibly hurt?
I think that the problem is not so much a backhand/forehand one, although heaven knows Melrose loved the backhand, but that sometimes a quick shot is better than a hard shot. A wrister may be better than a slap shot. You just catch the goalie out of position.

You right, Jim.   It's not an issue of forehand/backhand.   It's just the fact that, rather than take that quick backhand shot, they make some other move (pass it, bring it to the forehand, etc).   If that quick shot is a backhand, take it!!   That's not happening now....I think they lack confidence in it.   Thus, my feeling that they should practice it.

For an example of an excellent backhand, check out Pittsburgh's third goal against Ottawa tonight, scored by Craig Adams.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20092010,3,141

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