Buh-bye, seniors

Started by Rosey, March 26, 2010, 09:05:03 PM

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Rosey

See ya, seniors.  What a way to go out.  Blah.

And see the rest of you in 7 months, for Cornell's rebuilding season. :-P
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Flyers1037

I think the Senior class achieved...

Towerroad

I think this is a little classless. Kick a guy when he is down.

YankeeLobo

Quote from: TowerroadI think this is a little classless. Kick a guy when he is down.

Let's not bash the players.  Bash the coach!  the system!  This is the 3rd time Cornell's been beat in the tournament by Umile, because Umile knows how to coach these guys up to break the gimmick Cornell defensive system.  He makes it look easy, and he makes Schafer look stupid.

Rosey

Quote from: TowerroadI think this is a little classless.
In other words, the truth hurts.
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Towerroad

No, I think it is about respect for the players. I operate under the assumption that they gave the program all that they could. The went out to compete and tonight their best was not good enough. On another day it might be but I think we should respect our fellow Cornellians. This was the Seniors last game and I think we should say "Thank You" not "What have you done for me lately".

I have think that the efforts of the Coach should come under a bit more scrutiny as he and his staff are paid professionals.

Redscore

It's not about the players at all.  It's just our style. The critics out there have always been right, I've just not wanted to admit it.  But now I should admit it - I'm just bored with the way we play hockey.  I enjoy rooting for the team and following the scores on elynah and USCHO, but I don't really care whether I get to a game or not. The fun of following the game on elynah chat or the forum far exceeds actually watching the team play.  I guess I'm a true cyber fan and that's a sad thing.

YankeeLobo

Quote from: RedscoreIt's not about the players at all.  It's just our style. The critics out there have always been right, I've just not wanted to admit it.  But now I should admit it - I'm just bored with the way we play hockey.  I enjoy rooting for the team and following the scores on elynah and USCHO, but I don't really care whether I get to a game or not. The fun of following the game on elynah chat or the forum far exceeds actually watching the team play.  I guess I'm a true cyber fan and that's a sad thing.

I never liked seeing games much.  It's not fun to watch.  Most hockey is, but I really believe that the way Cornell plays is bad for the game.  If everyone played like that, no one would watch college hockey or hockey in general.  The reason the NHL is so fun to watch now, even though it has yet to attract the viewers (more related to post-lockout issues than anything else, in my opinion), is that they changed the rules so the New Jersey Devils' style didn't dominate the sport.  Now it's actually watchable.  

Schafer is GAMING the system, CHANGE THE RULES COLLEGE HOCKEY before the game is ruined!!

Dafatone

Quote from: YankeeLobo
Quote from: TowerroadI think this is a little classless. Kick a guy when he is down.

Let's not bash the players.  Bash the coach!  the system!  This is the 3rd time Cornell's been beat in the tournament by Umile, because Umile knows how to coach these guys up to break the gimmick Cornell defensive system.  He makes it look easy, and he makes Schafer look stupid.

If it's just a coaching thing, how'd we win 5-2 against them earlier in the year?

Towerroad

Quote from: Kyle RoseSee ya, seniors.  What a way to go out.  Blah.

And see the rest of you in 7 months, for Cornell's rebuilding season. :-P

I agree with the comments on the Schafer System. It is the snarky tone dissing the Seniors that I object to.

Tom Lento

I think this year's team underachieved slightly, but only slightly - they probably should have made the regional final, all things considered, and even without the favorable draw they had the potential to get to the frozen four, but expecting another FF was at best wishful thinking. Just because we went into this season knowing that this was Cornell's best shot at a national title since 2003 doesn't mean Cornell actually had a great shot at a national title.

I don't think the seniors have underachieved at all. Greening developed into an absolute monster and will probably end up in the AHL next year, Gallagher improved tremendously over his time here and developed into a legitimate goal-scoring threat, Scali became a force in the corners, and Krueger ended his career as a terrific, steady defenseman. A lot of people like to bag on Brendon Nash, but Cornell will miss him terribly next season. Scrivens actually exceeded my expectations with his career improvement. I remember watching him play as a freshman, and believe me - he's been much better as a senior. That degree of improvement, and the quality of his performances are a credit to him. I don't care how good the defensive system is, you don't set shutout records at this level without being consistently good unless you play for an utterly, ridiculously, historically dominant team.

Best of luck to the seniors.

YankeeLobo

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Quote from: TowerroadI think this is a little classless. Kick a guy when he is down.

Let's not bash the players.  Bash the coach!  the system!  This is the 3rd time Cornell's been beat in the tournament by Umile, because Umile knows how to coach these guys up to break the gimmick Cornell defensive system.  He makes it look easy, and he makes Schafer look stupid.

If it's just a coaching thing, how'd we win 5-2 against them earlier in the year?

Probably cause we played a great game that night and UNH was off...might've had an excuse.  In the tournament there are no excuses.  that's the only game that mattered of the two.  Umile obviously made the adjustments, Schafer didn't.  I felt like the team panicked early in the third period and started taking chances they didn't have to, or were not equipped to take.  its pretty clear they panicked from an offensive standpoint, feeling like they needed to tie it up quickly.  that's the problem with schafer's system, all the players start thinking defensively.  when there comes a point in the game when they actually need a goal, and they shift their strategy, they're not good at it, hence why UNH dominated us in the 3rd period.  cornell can't play open hockey, period.

hockeychick470

this is fundamentally uncool and goes against everything i've come to hold myself to as a Cornell Hockey fan. You should really be ashamed of yourself for starting a thread like this on ELYNAH where Cornell Hockey FANS come to discuss hockey, not knock down our players.  While we all may have been discouraged by the game, this is a slap in the face to a group of men who have given their time and energy to us for the past 4 years.

semsox

Quote from: hockeychick470this is fundamentally uncool and goes against everything i've come to hold myself to as a Cornell Hockey fan. You should really be ashamed of yourself for starting a thread like this on ELYNAH where Cornell Hockey FANS come to discuss hockey, not knock down our players.  While we all may have been discouraged by the game, this is a slap in the face to a group of men who have given their time and energy to us for the past 4 years.

thumbs up x a million

adamw

Why is that when a team has a bad night, it was the coach's fault for not coaching them properly?  In this game, I think they just didn't play well. Period.
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