Harvard 0 at Cornell 3 Game 2 Postgame

Started by billhoward, March 13, 2010, 09:23:26 PM

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andyw2100

Quote from: ebilmesSorry that people couldn't hear in C or D; I'm not that loud!

No problem! The fact that you had the attention of what appeared to be at least two full sections, and probably some people on the B side of C, was quite impressive.

marty

Quote from: Tom Lento
Quote from: A-ronI noticed that after the game the team did a little victory lap around the ice...when did they stop inviting the fans onto the ice after the final playoff win at home?  That was one of my favorite moments as a Cornell fan!  I remember immediately after the win seeing the entire team gesture to the stands saying "come join us."  Is this a new policy from athletics or the coach or did people just decide they didn't feel like it?  Should I blame its absence on the success of the basketball team?

That moment really lost something for me after they went to the seamless glass, since fans were no longer allowed to jump over the boards and had to file onto the ice through the Zamboni doors. I'm pretty sure the last year with the old glass was 99-00,

The change to the higher glass happened after the December 2006 Union - RPI @ Cornell series.  I seem to remember the change occurred over winter break rather than in the off season.  Was there another change in glass before that?

Here are some of the shots I made that weekend in 2006.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,105083,105106#msg-105106
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

CUontheslopes

Not to switch gears from the discussion of the glass, but I thought that was one of the more complete games I've seen Cornell play in a long, long time. It was a night when the breaks didn't seem to be going our way. We hit a crossbar, had a bunch of shots go just wide, Richter played a solid game in net against us, but we pulled it out. Cornell was clearly the better team, but I've seen us drop games like that too many times in the past. This was old-school Cornell/Harvard hockey. If you closed your eyes, you could've thought you were back in '03 or '05. Bodies were flying all over the ice - both teams played with a mean streak. It was great to watch. Cornell finally clicked this weekend. The passing was very crisp and our old bugaboo, the breakout, was actually a strength even when Harvard dropped 2 forecheckers. If Cornell can find a way to keep playing this style - imposing its will on its opponents by outhitting them, I like our chances...a lot.

Some other notes:

- Gallagher's first goal was the PP play that he scored so many goals on earlier in the season - the beautiful skip pass from the slot to the backdoor. Glad to see we still have that one in the playbook. When it works, it's beautiful to watch, like watching a backdoor cut in the basketball.

- Brendan Nash had a decent game overall, but had 2 horrific turnovers again that led to great Harvard scoring chances. I think that unfortunately, that's what we're going to get at this point - he's good for one or two absolutely boneheaded turnovers a game, with some great offensive plays thrown in.

- Has anyone noted that Greening has ZERO penalty minutes to date? That's an incredible stat and shows you just how dominant he is. He skates so hard and moves his feet so well that he's always in position. He played a GREAT game last night.

- For one, I liked the victory lap around the rink. The team was fired up and so were the fans.  Would it be nice to go on the ice? Sure, but seriously? That's not something that's a particularly safe idea. I have no problem with Cornell ('s legal dept.) not allowing it.

Ronald '09

Quote from: CUontheslopes- Has anyone noted that Greening has ZERO penalty minutes to date? That's an incredible stat and shows you just how dominant he is. He skates so hard and moves his feet so well that he's always in position. He played a GREAT game last night.


Greening has 29 PIM this year ( http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2009-10/players/colingreeninggcmp ).  Do you not remember his 5 minute major and game misconduct against Q earlier this year?  Other than that, his total is pretty low though.  That one penalty counts for 15 PIM right?

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: CUontheslopesNot to switch gears from the discussion of the glass, but I thought that was one of the more complete games I've seen Cornell play in a long, long time. It was a night when the breaks didn't seem to be going our way. We hit a crossbar, had a bunch of shots go just wide, Richter played a solid game in net against us, but we pulled it out. Cornell was clearly the better team, but I've seen us drop games like that too many times in the past. This was old-school Cornell/Harvard hockey. If you closed your eyes, you could've thought you were back in '03 or '05. Bodies were flying all over the ice - both teams played with a mean streak. It was great to watch. Cornell finally clicked this weekend. The passing was very crisp and our old bugaboo, the breakout, was actually a strength even when Harvard dropped 2 forecheckers. If Cornell can find a way to keep playing this style - imposing its will on its opponents by outhitting them, I like our chances...a lot.

Some other notes:

- Gallagher's first goal was the PP play that he scored so many goals on earlier in the season - the beautiful skip pass from the slot to the backdoor. Glad to see we still have that one in the playbook. When it works, it's beautiful to watch, like watching a backdoor cut in the basketball.

- Brendan Nash had a decent game overall, but had 2 horrific turnovers again that led to great Harvard scoring chances. I think that unfortunately, that's what we're going to get at this point - he's good for one or two absolutely boneheaded turnovers a game, with some great offensive plays thrown in.

- Has anyone noted that Greening has ZERO penalty minutes to date? That's an incredible stat and shows you just how dominant he is. He skates so hard and moves his feet so well that he's always in position. He played a GREAT game last night.

- For one, I liked the victory lap around the rink. The team was fired up and so were the fans.  Would it be nice to go on the ice? Sure, but seriously? That's not something that's a particularly safe idea. I have no problem with Cornell ('s legal dept.) not allowing it.
Great posting.  Agree 100% with everything you wrote.  Classic Cornell hockey.

This one sentence (describing the first period) from the Harvard Athletics write-up on the game sums it up nicely:

"Harvard put the puck in the offensive corners for some long stretches, but Scrivens stopped all three Crimson shots on net."

When "putting the puck in the offensive corners" is the highlight of your play...
Al DeFlorio '65

CUontheslopes

Quote from: Ronald '09
Quote from: CUontheslopes- Has anyone noted that Greening has ZERO penalty minutes to date? That's an incredible stat and shows you just how dominant he is. He skates so hard and moves his feet so well that he's always in position. He played a GREAT game last night.


Greening has 29 PIM this year ( http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2009-10/players/colingreeninggcmp ).  Do you not remember his 5 minute major and game misconduct against Q earlier this year?  Other than that, his total is pretty low though.  That one penalty counts for 15 PIM right?

My apologies - I was looking here:

http://www.uscho.com/stats/team-overall.php/cornell-big-red/mens-college-hockey/season,20092010/team,cor/gender,m.html

And, now that you mention it, yes I do recall it. Mea culpa.

amerks127

Quote from: CUontheslopes
Quote from: Ronald '09
Quote from: CUontheslopes- Has anyone noted that Greening has ZERO penalty minutes to date? That's an incredible stat and shows you just how dominant he is. He skates so hard and moves his feet so well that he's always in position. He played a GREAT game last night.


Greening has 29 PIM this year ( http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2009-10/players/colingreeninggcmp ).  Do you not remember his 5 minute major and game misconduct against Q earlier this year?  Other than that, his total is pretty low though.  That one penalty counts for 15 PIM right?

My apologies - I was looking here:

http://www.uscho.com/stats/team-overall.php/cornell-big-red/mens-college-hockey/season,20092010/team,cor/gender,m.html

And, now that you mention it, yes I do recall it. Mea culpa.

Greening also had the final penalty of the game on Friday.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: CUontheslopesNot to switch gears from the discussion of the glass, but I thought that was one of the more complete games I've seen Cornell play in a long, long time. It was a night when the breaks didn't seem to be going our way. We hit a crossbar, had a bunch of shots go just wide, Richter played a solid game in net against us, but we pulled it out. Cornell was clearly the better team, but I've seen us drop games like that too many times in the past. This was old-school Cornell/Harvard hockey. If you closed your eyes, you could've thought you were back in '03 or '05. Bodies were flying all over the ice - both teams played with a mean streak. It was great to watch. Cornell finally clicked this weekend. The passing was very crisp and our old bugaboo, the breakout, was actually a strength even when Harvard dropped 2 forecheckers. If Cornell can find a way to keep playing this style - imposing its will on its opponents by outhitting them, I like our chances...a lot.

Some other notes:

- Gallagher's first goal was the PP play that he scored so many goals on earlier in the season - the beautiful skip pass from the slot to the backdoor. Glad to see we still have that one in the playbook. When it works, it's beautiful to watch, like watching a backdoor cut in the basketball.

- Brendan Nash had a decent game overall, but had 2 horrific turnovers again that led to great Harvard scoring chances. I think that unfortunately, that's what we're going to get at this point - he's good for one or two absolutely boneheaded turnovers a game, with some great offensive plays thrown in.

- Has anyone noted that Greening has ZERO penalty minutes to date? That's an incredible stat and shows you just how dominant he is. He skates so hard and moves his feet so well that he's always in position. He played a GREAT game last night.

- For one, I liked the victory lap around the rink. The team was fired up and so were the fans.  Would it be nice to go on the ice? Sure, but seriously? That's not something that's a particularly safe idea. I have no problem with Cornell ('s legal dept.) not allowing it.
Agree, especially on the breakout. I've thought that this year our most vulnerable position has been when a defenseman was standing, with the puck, behind the net. Yes we often did it to get a line change, but it also allows the opposition to set up a forecheck. More often than not, last night when we got the puck we immediately started skating and passing it out. It was even different than Friday's game. Hopefully we have picked up the idea and we won't all be moaning when we seem unable to breakout, leading to turnovers. If so that could be the final piece in our puzzle.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005


David Harding

It must be those funny lights at Lynah that the photographers complain about - changing the colors, and numbers, and...  ::innocent::

billhoward

Harvard Crimson as of Monday morning has the game one story posted, only. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/3/15/mhockey-ECACquarterfinals-gamerecap-031210/  

Quote from: B. Marjorie Gullick, Crimson Staff WriterAfter an impressive sweep of Princeton last weekend in the first round of ECAC playoffs, the Harvard men's hockey team (9-20-3, 7-11-3 ECAC) dropped the first game of a three-game quarterfinal series to No. 9 Cornell (18-8-4, 13-5-3 ECAC) on Friday night. The Big Red used the energy of its fans, the talent of its freshmen, and the effectiveness of its power play in a dominant 5-1 win over the Crimson at Lynah Rink.

Yale Daily News reported on the Bulldogs' three-game loss to Brown. http://www.yaledailynews.com/sports/sports-general/2010/03/14/m-hockey-yale-eliminated-ecac-tournament/

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: billhowardYale Daily News reported on the Bulldogs' three-game loss to Brown. http://www.yaledailynews.com/sports/sports-general/2010/03/14/m-hockey-yale-eliminated-ecac-tournament/
With this quote from Keith Allain:

"I thought we showed great discipline getting through the hooks, the holes [I assume this should read "holds," or the ice at Ingalls really needs work.;-)], the hacks, the whacks that were allowed to go on in the slot area in front of their net."

You'd think he was an SLU grad.
Al DeFlorio '65

marty

Did anyone else catch the Qpac announcers bellyaching about no penalties against Union last night? That was their banter during the last few minutes of the third.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Rita

Quote from: martyDid anyone else catch the Qpac announcers bellyaching about no penalties against Union last night? That was their banter during the last few minutes of the third.

It seemed to me that they were belly-aching for most of the game about the lack of calls on Union. It was very annoying and I felt like screaming "stop the homerism" already, please.

I did enjoy the first intermission trip down memory lane and my childhood in CT with Dan Fridgen and Chris Kotsopoulos and their days with the Hartford Whalers. All that was missing was "Brass Bonanza" **] playing in the background.

I think Kotsopoulos wore #24 while playing with the whale, and if that is true, why do I remember that factoid and not what I wanted to get out of the room I just entered?

dbilmes

Quote from: billhowardHarvard Crimson as of Monday morning has the game one story posted, only. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/3/15/mhockey-ECACquarterfinals-gamerecap-031210/  


The Crimson story also has Riley Nash listed as a freshman. We wish!