Harvard at Cornell postgame

[Beeeej]

One of the idiots who threw fish in the second period was two rows in front of me. I tapped him on the shoulder and yelled at him for a bit. Sometimes there's nothing you can do, aside from someone making an announcement specifically to the student sections before the game.

This is likely the most realistic way to curb the 2nd and 3rd period fish throwing.  It reminds me of when some idiot would start the "shutout" chant with 5 minutes left or break out their keys with a 1 goal lead.  The rest of the students shut it down so to speak.  If enough people let them know it's not acceptable to throw fish after the first time, they'll stop.  Strength in numbers.

I'll jump in here for a moment and do my own old codger impression - why the hell was Section B chanting "Scoreboard" with eight minutes left?!

I wasn't there, but I'm guessing because Section O was acting up and we chose to notify them that they were losing 5-3?

The "eight minutes left" thing doesn't bother me with the scoreboard chant... the "Cornell spent a whole lot of time down 3-1" thing, well, a bit.

That's kind of my point, actually.  We had just gotten done scoring four goals in the space of about ten minutes.  Appearances of inferiority aside, Hahvahd could've done exactly the same thing to us.  For me, you just don't tempt fate with a "scoreboard" chant at all - but if you must, I'd prefer the game be a hell of a lot more sewn up than it was at the time.

[KeithK]

That's kind of my point, actually.  We had just gotten done scoring four goals in the space of about ten minutes.  Appearances of inferiority aside, Hahvahd could've done exactly the same thing to us.  For me, you just don't tempt fate with a "scoreboard" chant at all - but if you must, I'd prefer the game be a hell of a lot more sewn up than it was at the time.

You're being too paranoid when you say we should never chant "scoreboard".  There are plenty of appropriate ocasions (example: a mid third period goal by Windsor would have certainly qualified).  But I do agree regarding Saturday's game.

[Jordan 04]

One of the idiots who threw fish in the second period was two rows in front of me. I tapped him on the shoulder and yelled at him for a bit. Sometimes there's nothing you can do, aside from someone making an announcement specifically to the student sections before the game.

This is likely the most realistic way to curb the 2nd and 3rd period fish throwing.  It reminds me of when some idiot would start the "shutout" chant with 5 minutes left or break out their keys with a 1 goal lead.  The rest of the students shut it down so to speak.  If enough people let them know it's not acceptable to throw fish after the first time, they'll stop.  Strength in numbers.

I'll jump in here for a moment and do my own old codger impression - why the hell was Section B chanting "Scoreboard" with eight minutes left?!

I wasn't there, but I'm guessing because Section O was acting up and we chose to notify them that they were losing 5-3?

The "eight minutes left" thing doesn't bother me with the scoreboard chant... the "Cornell spent a whole lot of time down 3-1" thing, well, a bit.

That's kind of my point, actually.  We had just gotten done scoring four goals in the space of about ten minutes.  Appearances of inferiority aside, Hahvahd could've done exactly the same thing to us.  For me, you just don't tempt fate with a "scoreboard" chant at all - but if you must, I'd prefer the game be a hell of a lot more sewn up than it was at the time.

Meh. That's why they chanted scoreboard up 5-3, not down 3-1. I don't understand the problem. I hate these nit-picky type arguments about what's "good" cheering and what's "bad" cheering, because we get so bogged down in meaningless details of who tempted what gods, and who did what right or wrong, when everyone just trying to have their own version of fun in the stands.

"Scoreboard" is merely to point out to opposing fans who are cheering, cheering against us,or otherwise acting pleased, that "Hey asshole, you're losing the game right now."  It is different from keys, which say "You better go start the car, because the game is over."  The latter is tempting the woofing gods*; the former is not.

*Hypothetical argument on my part, as I couldn't really care less if someone busts out their keys up a goal with 15 minutes left in the third period.  They make look idiotic, and it may come back to bite them in the ass, but they paid the same price for their ticket as I paid for mine, so it's not my place to tell them they're cheering wrong.

[Jim Hyla]

One of the idiots who threw fish in the second period was two rows in front of me. I tapped him on the shoulder and yelled at him for a bit. Sometimes there's nothing you can do, aside from someone making an announcement specifically to the student sections before the game.

This is likely the most realistic way to curb the 2nd and 3rd period fish throwing.  It reminds me of when some idiot would start the "shutout" chant with 5 minutes left or break out their keys with a 1 goal lead.  The rest of the students shut it down so to speak.  If enough people let them know it's not acceptable to throw fish after the first time, they'll stop.  Strength in numbers.

I'll jump in here for a moment and do my own old codger impression - why the hell was Section B chanting "Scoreboard" with eight minutes left?!

I wasn't there, but I'm guessing because Section O was acting up and we chose to notify them that they were losing 5-3?

The "eight minutes left" thing doesn't bother me with the scoreboard chant... the "Cornell spent a whole lot of time down 3-1" thing, well, a bit.

That's kind of my point, actually.  We had just gotten done scoring four goals in the space of about ten minutes.  Appearances of inferiority aside, Hahvahd could've done exactly the same thing to us.  For me, you just don't tempt fate with a "scoreboard" chant at all - but if you must, I'd prefer the game be a hell of a lot more sewn up than it was at the time.

Meh. That's why they chanted scoreboard up 5-3, not down 3-1. I don't understand the problem. I hate these nit-picky type arguments about what's "good" cheering and what's "bad" cheering, because we get so bogged down in meaningless details of who tempted what gods, and who did what right or wrong, when everyone just trying to have their own version of fun in the stands.

"Scoreboard" is merely to point out to opposing fans who are cheering, cheering against us,or otherwise acting pleased, that "Hey asshole, you're losing the game right now."  It is different from keys, which say "You better go start the car, because the game is over."  The latter is tempting the woofing gods*; the former is not.

*Hypothetical argument on my part, as I couldn't really care less if someone busts out their keys up a goal with 15 minutes left in the third period.  They make look idiotic, and it may come back to bite them in the ass, but they paid the same price for their ticket as I paid for mine, so it's not my place to tell them they're cheering wrong.

Totally agree. As long as you're not hurting the team or another person, for example fish during the game, cheer as you wish (yeah, yeah I know all ideas about profanity are going to be unleashed). Last year I decided to grow a playoff beard, this year maybe not; but guess what, I did it to have fun. Maybe I looked stupid, so what. I was having fun and I didn't hurt anyone.

[KeithK]

*Hypothetical argument on my part, as I couldn't really care less if someone busts out their keys up a goal with 15 minutes left in the third period.  They make look idiotic, and it may come back to bite them in the ass, but they paid the same price for their ticket as I paid for mine, so it's not my place to tell them they're cheering wrong.

Totally agree. As long as you're not hurting the team or another person, for example fish during the game, cheer as you wish (yeah, yeah I know all ideas about profanity are going to be unleashed). Last year I decided to grow a playoff beard, this year maybe not; but guess what, I did it to have fun. Maybe I looked stupid, so what. I was having fun and I didn't hurt anyone.

I consider it very much my place to tell someone that he is cheering "wrong".  More specificlly, if he looks and sounds stupid I have every right to inform him of this fact. He may choose to ignore my criticisms, of course. But the only way to combat stupidity is to criticse it. (Well, the only legal option anyway. :-D )

[KeithK]

And... Ye shall not tempt the almighty Woofing Gods!

[RichH]

One of the idiots who threw fish in the second period was two rows in front of me. I tapped him on the shoulder and yelled at him for a bit. Sometimes there's nothing you can do, aside from someone making an announcement specifically to the student sections before the game.

This is likely the most realistic way to curb the 2nd and 3rd period fish throwing.  It reminds me of when some idiot would start the "shutout" chant with 5 minutes left or break out their keys with a 1 goal lead.  The rest of the students shut it down so to speak.  If enough people let them know it's not acceptable to throw fish after the first time, they'll stop.  Strength in numbers.

I'll jump in here for a moment and do my own old codger impression - why the hell was Section B chanting "Scoreboard" with eight minutes left?!

I thought it was to shove it right back at the Harvard fans' (yes, there was more than 1) faces.  From what someone told me, Section O did a "scoreboard" chant pretty much immediately after getting a 1-0 lead in the 1st period.  It was more of a "no...THIS is when you do that chant" demonstration and a twisting of the knife.

[Jim Hyla]

*Hypothetical argument on my part, as I couldn't really care less if someone busts out their keys up a goal with 15 minutes left in the third period.  They make look idiotic, and it may come back to bite them in the ass, but they paid the same price for their ticket as I paid for mine, so it's not my place to tell them they're cheering wrong.

Totally agree. As long as you're not hurting the team or another person, for example fish during the game, cheer as you wish (yeah, yeah I know all ideas about profanity are going to be unleashed). Last year I decided to grow a playoff beard, this year maybe not; but guess what, I did it to have fun. Maybe I looked stupid, so what. I was having fun and I didn't hurt anyone.

I consider it very much my place to tell someone that he is cheering "wrong".  More specificlly, if he looks and sounds stupid I have every right to inform him of this fact. He may choose to ignore my criticisms, of course. But the only way to combat stupidity is to criticse it. (Well, the only legal option anyway. :-D )

So, consider it criticized. ::stupid::::blush::

[French Rage]

"Scoreboard" isn't woofing, it's merely pointing out when the other team is giving you crap that you're the one currently in the lead.  Chanting "shutout" or dangling your keys is closer to woofing, and thus should only be done at the end when it's safe.

[KeithK]

*Hypothetical argument on my part, as I couldn't really care less if someone busts out their keys up a goal with 15 minutes left in the third period.  They make look idiotic, and it may come back to bite them in the ass, but they paid the same price for their ticket as I paid for mine, so it's not my place to tell them they're cheering wrong.

Totally agree. As long as you're not hurting the team or another person, for example fish during the game, cheer as you wish (yeah, yeah I know all ideas about profanity are going to be unleashed). Last year I decided to grow a playoff beard, this year maybe not; but guess what, I did it to have fun. Maybe I looked stupid, so what. I was having fun and I didn't hurt anyone.

I consider it very much my place to tell someone that he is cheering "wrong".  More specificlly, if he looks and sounds stupid I have every right to inform him of this fact. He may choose to ignore my criticisms, of course. But the only way to combat stupidity is to criticse it. (Well, the only legal option anyway. :-D )

So, consider it criticized. ::stupid::::blush::

Touche!

No, I don't do diacritics or whatever the heck you call them.

[imafrshmn]

"Scoreboard" isn't woofing, it's merely pointing out when the other team is giving you crap that you're the one currently in the lead.  Chanting "shutout" or dangling your keys is closer to woofing, and thus should only be done at the end when it's safe.

Why is it called woofing anyway?

[French Rage]

"Scoreboard" isn't woofing, it's merely pointing out when the other team is giving you crap that you're the one currently in the lead.  Chanting "shutout" or dangling your keys is closer to woofing, and thus should only be done at the end when it's safe.

Why is it called woofing anyway?

It dates back to a sportswriter from the 20s named Fred J. Wooferson.

[Jim Hyla]

*Hypothetical argument on my part, as I couldn't really care less if someone busts out their keys up a goal with 15 minutes left in the third period.  They make look idiotic, and it may come back to bite them in the ass, but they paid the same price for their ticket as I paid for mine, so it's not my place to tell them they're cheering wrong.

Totally agree. As long as you're not hurting the team or another person, for example fish during the game, cheer as you wish (yeah, yeah I know all ideas about profanity are going to be unleashed). Last year I decided to grow a playoff beard, this year maybe not; but guess what, I did it to have fun. Maybe I looked stupid, so what. I was having fun and I didn't hurt anyone.

I consider it very much my place to tell someone that he is cheering "wrong".  More specificlly, if he looks and sounds stupid I have every right to inform him of this fact. He may choose to ignore my criticisms, of course. But the only way to combat stupidity is to criticse it. (Well, the only legal option anyway. :-D )

So, consider it criticized. ::stupid::::blush::

Touche!

No, I don't do diacritics or whatever the heck you call them.

But thanks, I've not ever found a place where I could safely use that emoticon.

[billhoward]

Here's something weaker than the Harvard offense in the third period -- The Harvard Crimson game story: "Harvard Loses in Rivalry Matchup."

Doesn't sound as if the writer even made the trip. One could not fathom The Daily Sun not making the trip to Cambridge if only because it's one way to get tickets.

[jtwcornell91]

"Scoreboard" isn't woofing, it's merely pointing out when the other team is giving you crap that you're the one currently in the lead.  Chanting "shutout" or dangling your keys is closer to woofing, and thus should only be done at the end when it's safe.

Why is it called woofing anyway?

http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~dwilson/rsfc/Woof.html