RPI 0 @ Cornell 4 (FINAL) - Game 2, 3/14/09

[redice]

Frankly, I found the officials to be too friendly with RPI players.    We saw on linesman (Asst Ref?) patting an RPI player on the backside near the RPI bench.   Lots of friendly chatter better the officals & RPI players.   Add in the goalie stick thing and it looks bad for the on-ice officials.

RPI fans could easily counter that I should look at the number of penalties called on their team.   Clearly no favoritism there.

[upperdeck]

the penalty calls were even until the last 9 min when cleary RPI just started tackling/holding/tripping anything that moved. at that pt in a 3-0 game does it really matter

[David Harding]

[quote CowbellGuy]It was Kotyra that got the stick. Almost positive refs can't do that. I know a player can't pick up another stick and hand it off. I've seen refs and linesmen pick up sticks and hold onto them until stoppages, but I've never seen an official hand a stick to a player or goalie.[/quote]

e. A player or goalkeeper shall not participate in play while in possession
of more than one stick, except that a penalty shall not be assessed
to a player who is struck accidentally by the puck while carrying a
replacement stick to a teammate (see 6-4-c).

b. A goalkeeper may continue to play with a broken stick until a stoppage
of play or until the goalkeeper legally has been provided with a stick.
c. A player whose stick is broken may not receive a stick thrown onto the
ice from any part of the rink but must obtain a stick at the players' bench
or be handed one by a teammate not serving a penalty. A goalkeeper
whose stick is broken may not receive a stick thrown onto the ice surface
from any part of the rink but may receive a stick from a teammate without
proceeding to the players' bench.
PENALTY—Bench minor.

I was 700 miles away and not even watching the video, so this is pure speculation, but I offer this hypothesis:  Most sticks loose on the ice are there because they are broken and have been dropped, as required.  Kotyra reacted to the loose goalie stick on the ice as he would normally to a broken stick, picking it up to get it out of play.  Once he had it in his hands, he realized it wasn't broken and then faced the problem of what to do with it.  

We've seen quotes from the rules and from the statisticians manual.  There must be an officials manual somewhere.

[CowbellGuy]

Then allow me to clarify. The goalie lost his stick behind the net. Cornell was in RPI's end and got a bunch of chances and shots that were blocked or saved, but he was stickless for a good 20-30 seconds. Eventually RPI got the puck out of the zone. Kotyra was the trailing ref and was behind the net. When everyone had cleared the zone, he skated over, picked up the stick, and handed it to the goalie. It was completely deliberate and ridiculous. All the officials' rules are in the rulebook.

[marty]

[quote David Harding][quote CowbellGuy]It was Kotyra that got the stick. Almost positive refs can't do that. I know a player can't pick up another stick and hand it off. I've seen refs and linesmen pick up sticks and hold onto them until stoppages, but I've never seen an official hand a stick to a player or goalie.[/quote]

e. A player or goalkeeper shall not participate in play while in possession
of more than one stick, except that a penalty shall not be assessed
to a player who is struck accidentally by the puck while carrying a
replacement stick to a teammate (see 6-4-c).

b. A goalkeeper may continue to play with a broken stick until a stoppage
of play or until the goalkeeper legally has been provided with a stick.
c. A player whose stick is broken may not receive a stick thrown onto the
ice from any part of the rink but must obtain a stick at the players' bench
or be handed one by a teammate not serving a penalty. A goalkeeper
whose stick is broken may not receive a stick thrown onto the ice surface
from any part of the rink but may receive a stick from a teammate without
proceeding to the players' bench.
PENALTY—Bench minor.

I was 700 miles away and not even watching the video, so this is pure speculation, but I offer this hypothesis:  Most sticks loose on the ice are there because they are broken and have been dropped, as required.  Kotyra reacted to the loose goalie stick on the ice as he would normally to a broken stick, picking it up to get it out of play.  Once he had it in his hands, he realized it wasn't broken and then faced the problem of what to do with it.  

We've seen quotes from the rules and from the statisticians manual.  There must be an officials manual somewhere.[/quote]

But as stated here: Rule Book Quote
only the goalie can play with a broken stick.  So for your theory to be true either Kotyra didn't remember the rules or can't tell a goalie stick from a regular stick or picked the stick up and then thought "OOPS - WTF do I do with this thing?"

None of these constitute good officiating.  But then that was what many at the rink thought about the whole evening.

[imafrshmn]

[quote redice]We saw on linesman (Ass. Ref?) patting an RPI player on the backside near the RPI bench.[/quote]

FYP