Harvard Post-game

Started by Jim Hyla, November 22, 2008, 12:39:19 AM

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Jim Hyla

Best game I've seen them play all year. Obviously their puck handling was markedly better than the last few games. it was nice to see a win where we outplayed the other team, rather than the last few games where it seemed that at times we were brilliant, but they were too infrequent. Whereas with those games we scored enough to win or tie, but gave up many too many shots; here we controlled most of the play and won while out shooting them.

It's also nice to see the team rise up when Scrivens makes a mistake, as we all know he will, and not have to rely upon him to win. Aside from his mistake, I thought he played a good, not great game.

The PP was the best I've seen. Yes they had some terrifying problems getting out of their own end at times, but they tried many different options to score. I think their chances to score on the PP were very good. If they continue to improve, that could be a good part of their game.

The PK was good like usual. Harvard could control the puck, but not a lot of great chances. We were much more disciplined about not taking penalties.

Our main weakness is still getting out of our own end. All too often we turn it over. We seem to have a number of different plays, but still get caught. I think the problem is we are stationary waiting for a pass to come and by the time it does, Harvard was also there. We have to try and keep moving while we are trying to break out. Being flat-footed is a sure way to loose the puck.

Does anyone know what Donato was saying or upset about that caused the ref to come racing to their bench to talk to him? It almost seemed like someone on their bench said something to the ref as he went by and the ref came back to lay it into them.

The disputed goal to my view did not go in. It hit the line and bounced but never over. Why they couldn't have tried to talk or hand signal at the goal judge's box is beyond me. A simple question with thumbs up or down would have seemed to give an answer. I'm just glad we won without having to have that goal. Can you imagine what it would have been like if he overturned the ref and that was the important goal?

If this is the kind of improvement we can see as the season goes on, then we should have an enjoyable year. Coach certainly can use this game as an example of what they can do if they work at it. So much more intense than either Colgate game.

Now we have to turn around and do it again.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

dietlbomb

This game looked like a huge mismatch. We were on and they were totally off.

I could hear the drums from section D tonight during Gary Glitter. Usually they're too quiet. Were there more percussionists than normal?

hockeychick470

As happy as I was to not feel threatened by being patted down and having seemingly unnecessary bag checks... the total lack of fish detection/search kind of took the sport out of sneaking fish in.  But as a senior I was ecstatic to finally have a second win over harvard at Lynah... hopefully we will have a repeat at Lynah East in February.  

LGR!!!

Flyers1037

[quote dietlbomb]
I could hear the drums from section D tonight during Gary Glitter. Usually they're too quiet. Were there more percussionists than normal?[/quote]

The quad player from the last 2 years is back on quads as of tonight which contributes the most to you being able to hear the drums.

jtwcornell91

[quote Jim Hyla]Does anyone know what Donato was saying or upset about that caused the ref to come racing to their bench to talk to him? It almost seemed like someone on their bench said something to the ref as he went by and the ref came back to lay it into them.[/quote]

Jason's hypothesis (which seems like the right one) was that they were made because the whistle wasn't blown after one of their players got hurt blocking a shot in the sequence leading up to the goal.

MB

[quote Jim Hyla]It's also nice to see the team rise up when Scrivens makes a mistake, as we all know he will, and not have to rely upon him to win. Aside from his mistake, I thought he played a good, not great game.[/quote]

Maybe not his greatest, but from the video feed, it looked like he improved a lot.  His rebound control was pretty good this game, and he didn't wander out of the net too much.  Both of these made me feel a lot more comfortable with him in the net than I have before.

MattShaf

Well played win. Defensively we really minimized their opportunities. Strong play in the corners and very few chances from the front of the net. The offensive looked a little more lively. Strong cycling in the corners led to the first goal. The offenseman seemed to find each other more frequently than the first two games I saw (Pri and Q). BTW, Greening just exploded with the puck late in the third. Too bad he couldn't control the rebound well enough to tally the goal.
Looking forward to another strong performance tonight against an offensively productive Dartmouth game.

CUontheslopes

I have to agree - we did a nice job last night controlling the game. I was most proud of our hustle and ability to win the battles along the walls. We were disciplined and showed a lot more offensive flair then I've seen in recent years. Once we got across the red line, our offense and passing looked great.  On the other side of it...not so much. Brendan Nash continues to look like he has never seen a game of hockey. He's playing sloppy, turning the puck over and hitting no one. I'd give him  some credit for some fancy offensive moves, but that's not his job and one time he turned it over at our blue line dekeing around someone - not smart. He needs to be reminded he plays Defense, not Wing. Once he's in the offensive end he looks more comfortable, but wow...he looks downright scary bad in the defensive end and has all season.

I thought Scrivens played a decent game - the play behind the net was terrible and inexcusable, but at least it's early in the season - rather make that mistake now than later.

As mentioned, Greening looked great, as did Gallagher. It was a shame Greening couldn't score on his great chance late in the third or the 2:1 he had with R. Nash. Nice to see Riley Nash cracking the scoresheet. He played a nice game, though the second goal was more of a scrum in front of the net - I'm not actually sure it was him who scored it, but hey, who cares.

As for the controversial non-goal, I was sitting in E and had a great look at it - definitely didn't go in. It hit the inside of the crossbar and went straight down onto the outside of the line, but not over it. From where I was sitting it wasn't really even that close, only a tiny piece of the puck ever touched the line.

I was a little disappointed at the turnout - there were still quite a few empty seats and I was shocked to hear that tix were available up until 1pm on Friday. I remember being so crunched in for Harvard games that you had to stand sideways to fit everyone in the section. It's an absolute outrage how badly the Athletic Dept. has handled this situation. When I was an undergrad we had that streak of sellouts dating back to Alabama-Huntsville. I keep asking myself if I'm just older now as a law student and less in awe or whether Lynah is actually quieter and less raucous. I've come to the conclusion it really is the latter. The rink isn't nearly as packed and that's a shame. Additionally, as has been mentioned time and time again, because of the stupid lottery, the most die hard fans do not get the tickets (or the best tickets). There's little difference between B and E (I've sat in both this season). I really think it's time we all stopped whining about the Athletic Department not having general admission and start a petition to bring it back. If we had signatures from a thousand plus season ticket holders, it'd at least get the university to re-examine their position. Just my thoughts.

All in all, though, on the ice it was a solid night. Glad we were able to get a W and look good. Just wish we could've broken through for a 4-1 or 5-1 win. We certainly had the scoring chances.

pfibiger

[quote CUontheslopes] Nice to see Riley Nash cracking the scoresheet. He played a nice game, though the second goal was more of a scrum in front of the net - I'm not actually sure it was him who scored it, but hey, who cares.[/quote]

They showed the replay a couple of times on the video feed. Nash spun around and backhanded it, it may have hit Hoyle's pad and then it definitely went in off Greening's skate.
Phil Fibiger '01
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Cornell11

glad to see cornell take better shots on the power plays. i was getting tired of the deep slap shots from the blue line- good to see them take some higher percentage shots and crash the net for rebounds

i was sitting in row 3 of section G. i really thought the disputed goal was, in fact, a goal. i saw the replay on redcast this morning, and it wasn't conclusive one way or the other. it was unbelievable to chant "goal, goal, goal, goal" as they were checking the video. part of a spectacular 2nd period. one of the best periods ive seen in lynah.

scrivens made me nervous a couple of times, but he played a solid game.

hopefully theres no let-down tonight against dartmouth

CUontheslopes

As much as I wish it was a goal and I chanted goal, goal, goal, it definitely wasn't. I had a perfect angle in E just on the other side of the netting. It wasn't just me who saw it that way. My roommate did as well, as did two girls next to us who had never seen a hockey game and asked me "Is that a goal? Does it count because a piece of the puck touched the line or does all of the puck have to go across the line?" I hate to admit it, but the zebras got this one right.

andyw2100

[quote Cornell11] it was unbelievable to chant "goal, goal, goal, goal" as they were checking the video. [/quote]

They weren't checking any video. They called the goal judge over to the scorer's table so that he could answer a question or questions from the ref. The discussion, once the goal judge got there, was very short--perhaps 5-10 seconds.

jtwcornell91

[quote CUontheslopes]I was a little disappointed at the turnout - there were still quite a few empty seats and I was shocked to hear that tix were available up until 1pm on Friday. I remember being so crunched in for Harvard games that you had to stand sideways to fit everyone in the section. It's an absolute outrage how badly the Athletic Dept. has handled this situation. When I was an undergrad we had that streak of sellouts dating back to Alabama-Huntsville.[/quote]

Part of the difference has to be the addition over 400 seats in the last renovation.

imafrshmn

[quote jtwcornell91][quote CUontheslopes]I was a little disappointed at the turnout - there were still quite a few empty seats and I was shocked to hear that tix were available up until 1pm on Friday. I remember being so crunched in for Harvard games that you had to stand sideways to fit everyone in the section. It's an absolute outrage how badly the Athletic Dept. has handled this situation. When I was an undergrad we had that streak of sellouts dating back to Alabama-Huntsville.[/quote]

Part of the difference has to be the addition over 400 seats in the last renovation.[/quote]

The number of student seats sold by Athletics hasn't changed with the renovation, so there truly is a problem.
class of '09

Doug '08

[quote imafrshmn][quote jtwcornell91][quote CUontheslopes]I was a little disappointed at the turnout - there were still quite a few empty seats and I was shocked to hear that tix were available up until 1pm on Friday. I remember being so crunched in for Harvard games that you had to stand sideways to fit everyone in the section. It's an absolute outrage how badly the Athletic Dept. has handled this situation. When I was an undergrad we had that streak of sellouts dating back to Alabama-Huntsville.[/quote]

Part of the difference has to be the addition over 400 seats in the last renovation.[/quote]

The number of student seats sold by Athletics hasn't changed with the renovation, so there truly is a problem.[/quote]

I'd say the crowd at Cheel has been more raucous than Lynah for at least 2 years now.