Colgate 1 at Cornell 2 - Postgame

Started by sah67, February 01, 2008, 09:40:16 PM

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BCrespi

Indeed, it must have been very frustrating for Scali who seemed to be on the receiving end of a ton of penalties with nothing to show for it.  It's a testament to his character and game that he just kept playing hard the whole night.  I thought Joe was one of the best players on the ice last night.  

I was livid after there was no tripping call on Scali's drive to the net followed immediately by that Mugford penalty which they tied the game on.  Luckily the guys kept playing hard and got the goal.

I thought there was a lot of stuff missed both ways, and I'm not one who usually gets on the referees.  That said, I thought Colgate saw the lion's share of no-calls and Cornell was the victim of a few phantom plays.  Time Warner's feed had a bunch of great replays and nice angles behind the goals.  Too bad we can't get that feed for the webcast more often.
Brian Crespi '06

Trigger

Greening was great last weekend too. He scored both goals against Yale, and was the reason for both goals against Gate. He did make a poor play in the Yale game, taking the body on the Yale forward, missing him, and allowing a 2-on-1 that tied the game, but since that one error he has played nearly flawless hockey. He has an excellent upside, with great size and hands, and decent speed. If he can continue to be a force, look for the Red to cement a bye-week for the ECACHL playoffs, and possibly to win in Albany.

redhair34

I agree with you on two of the non-calls, but...

[quote lynah80]
2) The hit on M Kennedy at 12:59 in the 3rd period looked like "contact to the head" to me.  I've watched the replay several times and I don't agree with Jason that it was a clean hit.  It was too high.  Why would Kennedy stay down on the ice for so long if his head wasn't hit?[/quote]  

From the video and the replay it looked to me like Mike got caught with his head down--I thought it was clean

Quote4) Punches were thrown several times by players from both teams during scuffles.  That warrants 5 minutes.  

Fighting is an automatic major and game DQ in college...You wanted the ref to give players DQ's which would mean that we probably would have less than 18 skaters for tonight?

upperdeck

Isnt a blow to the head a blow to the head.. its not like he ducked into the hit. the player was coming in high with a shoulder and hit him in the head..

geesh last week we got a hit to the head penalty when  our little guy tried to push the player off him and barely touched his head..

amc245

One raider even punched Scrivens in the face after one whistle...it was hard to see but I had the perfect angle (section F).  No call of course...much to the dismay of many fans

hockeygen17


MINIteam8s

Check TimeWarnerSyr.  It looks like they may show a rerun this afternoon at 4 pm before the 7pm live game at 'gate.

min

[quote sah67]
Has anyone heard of a defenseman (or forward for that matter) being forced to play goal in a situation like this?  Does the NCAA rulebook even deal with such a situation?  
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I've seen something similar in professional soccer.
Min-Wei Lin

imafrshmn

[quote hockeygen17]anyone have video of the GWG?[/quote]

http://news10now.com/Video/BuildASX.ashx?vids=66601&StationId=2

Not the best quality, but there it is.
class of '09

redice

[quote lynah80]

The black and white need to call a tighter game tonight in Hamilton, not only because it impacts the outcome of the game, but more important, because the safety of the players depends on it.[/quote]

I agree...That is the worst officiating that I've seen this season.   The ref was absolutely NOT in charge of this game.
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

ebilmes

Yeah, the officiating sucked last night. Lots and lots of scuffles, some of which got the traditional matching minors, but most of which just got nothing. The refs didn't establish any sort of law and order. If players can hit after the whistle and not get sent to the box, why shouldn't they? I expect a very physical game tonight.

The no-call on the Scali hit was ridiculous. You don't get many more obvious penalties than that. After Kennedy's injury, I would have placed money on the next penalty being called in favor of Cornell. It stunned me when Scali was taken down without a whistle, and then I couldn't believe when Mugford went to the box right after. Really inconsistent officiating.

The dramatic GWG distracts us from this team's offensive issues. We can't rely on Scrivens to play this well every night; someone has to find a way to put the puck in the net. We had some blown chances in the first two periods, and then had two poor PPs in the last 8 mins of the 3rd. Yes, Greening's goal was fantastic, but we have to start getting more shots on net. Scoring is a problem.

As for the 'no passengers' comment above...Brendon Nash looks awful. Really uninspired play, doesn't hustle. This was all the more obvious when Greening and Scali were flying around the ice last night, yet Nash was taking his time moving up to the blue line or going back to get pucks. Berk is also pretty bad, but I'll let amerks127 get into that if he wants.

Scrivens kept us in this game, and then Greening capped off a great night by firing that shot past Dexshow.

Also, best cheer of the night: "Ugly girlfriend" - directed at the Colgate fan who held up the "12 in the program, 1 in my heart" sign.

Let's go red!


redice

[quote sah67]Girlfriend who was in attendance informs me that about 6 Colgate fans were ejected throughout the game.[/quote]

At least 6!!   Probably many more than 6.   Historically, the Colgate fans are the most obnoxious visiting-team fans at Lynah.

I saw one (mature) Colgate fan arguing with someone from Cornell administration after the game.   I overheard his asking:  "How are the kids supposed to know?"   I presume he was referring to whatever rule was used to throw them out.    That is a legitimate question to ask relative to the first person who is ejected.   But, for the remainder who are ejected, they clearly were not paying attention to the first ejection.   (If you see you buddy thrown own for **whatever**,  doesn't it seem that you, too, should stop that behavior?   It seems simple to me!)

BTW, before Colgate fans jump on me about Cornell fans being equally obnoxious.    I am a townie who does not necessarily always agree with the conduct of the Cornell fans either.    Maturity will do that to a person, you know!!  :-)
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

redhair34

[quote ebilmes]
As for the 'no passengers' comment above...Brendon Nash looks awful. Really uninspired play, doesn't hustle. This was all the more obvious when Greening and Scali were flying around the ice last night, yet Nash was taking his time moving up to the blue line or going back to get pucks. Berk is also pretty bad, but I'll let amerks127 get into that if he wants.
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I stand by that comment.  Where have you been?  That's how Brendon always looks (uninspired).  He plays on an even keel (a la Pokulok) which is sort of a double-edged sword. He made a few pretty poor plays in the neutral/defensive zones, but also a couple of equally good plays in the offensive zone.  While, I would agree it wasn't one of his best showings, it wasn't because he was dogging it.  Agree on Berk--the kid really should be watching in the press box at this point--but it's not for lack of effort, he's clearly in over his head; I can't imagine that Davenport is a healthy scratch at this point.


Scoring is a problem for this team, no doubt, but I wouldn't say that last night was a good example.  They had 31 shots on goal and many of them were through traffic and a result of crashing the net.  Lots of scoring chances but Dekanich was solid in net. PP did look awful last night though.  The Scott unit couldn't even get the puck in the zone, and when they did, Devin would one-time it about 3 feet wide and Gate would clear.

ebilmes

[quote redhair34][quote ebilmes]
As for the 'no passengers' comment above...Brendon Nash looks awful. Really uninspired play, doesn't hustle. This was all the more obvious when Greening and Scali were flying around the ice last night, yet Nash was taking his time moving up to the blue line or going back to get pucks. Berk is also pretty bad, but I'll let amerks127 get into that if he wants.
[/quote]

I stand by that comment.  Where have you been?  That's how Brendon always looks (uninspired).  He plays on an even keel (a la Pokulok) which is sort of a double-edged sword. He made a few pretty poor plays in the neutral/defensive zones, but also a couple of equally good plays in the offensive zone.  While, I would agree it wasn't one of his best showings, it wasn't because he was dogging it.  Agree on Berk--the kid really should be watching in the press box at this point--he's clearly in over his head; I can't imagine that Davenport is a healthy scratch.[/quote]

I'm familiar with how Nash looks -- I've watched him the last two seasons and also got to see Sasha play about 20 times during his two years at Cornell. I have no problem with his 'even keel,' so long as it puts him in the right place at the right time. It's just that when his effort can make the difference in a shift, it's disappointing when he doesn't try a little harder.