Back-up goalies

[Beeeej]

A) It was Jan. 3, 1993, the third of the Bills' four consecutive SuperBowl seasons.

B) Frank Reich started the game in place of an already-injured Jim Kelly - injured in the final game of the regular season, against... the Oilers.

Reich also already held the record for the greatest comeback in college football history, for Maryland - down 31-0 to Miami, he replaced starting QB Stan Gelbaugh and scored four touchdowns, three passing and one running, on the way to a 42-40 win.

I'll never forget that during halftime in the Bills-Oilers wildcard game, when the Bills were down 32-3, Boomer Esiason mentioned that great Terp comeback (Boomer and Reich had been roommates at the time of the comeback) and said, "If anybody can do it, it's Frank."  That's the only reason I kept the TV on past halftime - and I almost turned it off a few minutes later when the Oilers scored a field goal to make it 35-3.  Glad I didn't.

Beeeej

[Josh '99]

Later, the Bills lost the Super Bowl.  Again.  :-))

[Richard Stott]

I also saw Brian play many times and although he was one of the most fluid skaters I've ever seen at Cornell -- long, smooth strides -- he certainly was no Nethery or Nieuwendyke.

And, to his credit as a coach, Brian did actually get Manderville by his sophomore year to actually go behind the goal line in his defensive zone!  He didn't usually check anyone, but at least he went in deep. The strange thing is that Manderville ended up in the NHL as a good defensive player.

[Beeeej]

Josh, if you're suggesting that it's possible Chabot or Marr will perform spectacularly in their appearances in place of LeNeveu only to have Cornell fail in the playoffs at the highest level of competition, I would suggest that that's not a very good attitude to have.

If you're merely enjoying yourself at the expense of Bills fans, I would suggest you move on to something more challenging, constructive, and timely, like needling Republicans about the Dewey vs. Truman 1948 presidential election.  Or, y'know, kicking cats.

Beeeej

[Josh '99]

Jeffrey "Beeeej" Anbinder '94 wrote:

If you're merely enjoying yourself at the expense of Bills fans, I would suggest you move on to something more challenging, constructive, and timely, like needling Republicans about the Dewey vs. Truman 1948 presidential election.  Or, y'know, kicking cats.

Yeah, it was this one.  :-))

(I don't see how kicking cats is constructive, but hey, if that's what you like to do with your free time, it's not my business.  :-P)

[a fan]

Besides, even if Chabot or Marr can't handle it (which I doubt will happen), we still have the focused, offensive team that we always have just with a different guy in net. If they really focus and try to keep the puck away from the net, there's a chance our goalie won't have to save too much. Just got to wait and see....I mean we're still CORNELL right ?

[Lenny \'01]

We must remember that Maine will also be missing some players.  Their starting goalie and one of their star forwards are playing for the USA junior team.
Their starting Goalie (Howard) will probably be replaced by Doyle, who played 7 games in NCAA (this year).  He went 4-0-2 with a SV% of 0.938 and a 1.54 GAA.  So he has some experience, but is not their favored goalie right now.
They will also lose forward Greg Moore who is 9th on the team in points (14).
So maybe the loss from both teams will equalize.

[Jim Hyla]

Beeej said:[Q]like needling Republicans about the Dewey vs. Truman 1948 presidential election. [/Q] I think Trent Lott has already said enough about that election.

[Richard Stott]

I'm afraid I'm more pessimistic about the goalie situation than you guys are.  I think Schafer will go with Chabot.  Marr is a very marginal Division One player, who was the third string goalie for Northeastern and in the process of transferring to Wesleyan when we recruited him.  Chabot looks like the real thing, but his will be his first Divsion one game. Cornell has a very deep team this year except at goal, tho with experience Chabot will probably be good.

[Adam \'01]

Even if we lose to Maine, it's not the end of the world.  In fact, it might have a hidden benefit.  Ian McCaw, the AD at UMass, is the chair of the NCAA selection committee.  So if we played UMass in the second game (win or lose in the first, I suppose) and kick the crap out of them, it might help score some 'beauty contest points.'

[Alan]

I'm certain that Mr. McCaw will be watching the Maine- Cornell game anyway. And what better way to get "beauty points" than to win the whole tournament impressively? I don't think that we should be looking to find solice in a loss to Maine.

I've mentioned it before, we are likely to win the Maine game. This year, Cornell has performed better in all team categories while playing more difficult teams.

All naysayers beware! I will be grilling up some Black Bear steaks in hot Red sauce on December 28th.

[jtwcornell91]

Big Ben '03 wrote:

Marr and Chabot are goalies that were recruited for a D1 team.

So was [fill in favorite unsuccessful college goalie here].  And remember Elliott and Underhill also had some disastrous games early in their careers.

[Al DeFlorio]

John T. Whelan '91 wrote:

So was [fill in favorite unsuccessful college goalie here]...

Weder?

[cbuckser]

Hopefully Todd Marr and Louis Chabot can make NCAA debuts as successfully as Jason Elliott and Matt Underhill's debuts.  On Nov. 12, 1994, Elliott stopped 37 of 39 shots in a 3-2 victory over Vermont at Lynah.  In the same building four years later, Underhill stopped all six Vermont shots he faced in relief at the end of a 5-3 loss on Nov. 21, 1998.  Underhill made his first career start at Matthews Arena the following Tuesday and stopped 47 of 49 shots to lead Cornell to a 4-2 win over Northeastern.

[Greg Berge]

> The strange thing is that Manderville ended up in the NHL as a good defensive player.

Mandy got a big, bad attitude adjustment in the Canadian Olympic camp.  The coaches weren't having any of his attitude and he wasn't even close to their top flight offensive talent, so to get any time at all he had to play a solid two-way game.

It really, really has paid off for him in the pros, where he's earned a role and stuck around far longer than many of us thought he would.