Title IX & Profitability of College Sports (once was: Syracuse to add hockey)

Al DeFlorio · June 11, 2007, 06:07:26 PM

Rather remarkable that revenue exactly equals expense at Harvard and Brown.:-O

I suspect Harvard and Yale draw as many for "The Game" as Cornell for all of its home football games combined--and the ticket price is high.

BillCharlton · June 11, 2007, 07:20:09 PM

Quote from: One thing to keep in mind with these numbers is that schools may count as revenue contributions from alumni and others, institutional support, State or other government support, student activity fees, and any other revenues attributable to intercollegiate athletic activities. In other words, schools such as Harvard and Brown use funds from these sources to make athletics "revenue neutral," which is why they show a profit of zero. The other schools do not practice revenue neutral budgeting. This does not mean, however, that they do not include "general athletic" revenues in their football revenue.

Schools have considerable latitude in how they assign revenues to individual sports.

You are right about disparities in attendance. "The Game" drew 30 thousand in 2006. Below is a listing of the average 2006 home attendance by school:

YALE   18.5
HARVARD   15.5
PRINCETON   12.2
PENN   12.0
BROWN   6.5
DARTMOUTH   5.6
CORNELL   5.0
COLUMBIA   4.6

ebilmes · June 11, 2007, 09:07:19 PM

[quote BillCharlton]
You are right about disparities in attendance. "The Game" drew 30 thousand in 2006. Below is a listing of the average 2006 home attendance by school:

CORNELL 5.0
[/quote]

I'm surprised it was even this high.

billhoward · June 19, 2007, 01:38:46 AM

[quote BillCharlton]

Quote from: One thing to keep in mind with these numbers is that schools may count as revenue contributions from alumni and others, institutional support, State or other government support, student activity fees, and any other revenues attributable to intercollegiate athletic activities. In other words, schools such as Harvard and Brown use funds from these sources to make athletics "revenue neutral," which is why they show a profit of zero. The other schools do not practice revenue neutral budgeting. This does not mean, however, that they do not include "general athletic" revenues in their football revenue.

Schools have considerable latitude in how they assign revenues to individual sports.

You are right about disparities in attendance. "The Game" drew 30 thousand in 2006. Below is a listing of the average 2006 home attendance by school:

YALE   18.5
HARVARD   15.5
PRINCETON   12.2
PENN   12.0
BROWN   6.5
DARTMOUTH   5.6
CORNELL   5.0
COLUMBIA   4.6[/quote]

If these are 2006 stats, then Yale stands to further outdraw Harvard in 2007 when the game (sorry, The Game) is back at Yale Bowl. If the game draws 30,000 then it ups the home team's season average by 2,000 to 3,000 fans and drops the visiting team's average that year by a similar amount. Maybe you should average attendance over a two-year cycle.

ursusminor · October 19, 2007, 10:10:11 AM

This is written by Ed Weaver of the Troy Record who has been known to get his facts mixed up, but buried in this article http://www.troyrecord.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18929751&BRD=1170&PAG=461&dept_id=32464&rfi=6 is

QuoteAnd know this - Syracuse University will field a men's hockey team by 2011-12, if not one year sooner than that.

upperdeck · October 21, 2007, 08:47:50 PM

I have not heard that from anyone I know at SU that it is coming that soon. since they dont have a coach or even a facility to hold games for mens teams that seems awfully soon..

Robb · October 23, 2007, 04:44:14 AM

[quote upperdeck]I have not heard that from anyone I know at SU that it is coming that soon. since they dont have a coach or even a facility to hold games for mens teams that seems awfully soon..[/quote]

Maybe he meant a "men's field hockey team...." ::crazy::