Senior Night at Lynah East

[Killer]

I know it's still 2 weeks away, but when I got up this morning I began to think that with the final RS game being held at Lynah East this year, and with the huge (and vocal) Red contingent that always attends, we should make it something special for our seniors.  I don't know if Harvard has a Senior Night of their own, but after they put a damper on ours last year, it would be quite fitting to let them know who really rocks that place in support of their team...and oh so nice if the boys chalk up a big W as well.

So, maybe we can't do anything official, but people can start thinking about signs to thank the BIG RED seniors, cheers we start (e.g., in the 3rd period, we could call out each player individually: "Thank You, Evan!  Clap-Clap  Clap-Clap-Clap", or some such variation), etc.

Let's do our part off the ice, in the support of our team on the ice, to show that THIS IS OUR HOUSE!

LGR!!!

Killer

[Beeeej]

Personally, I think our fans purposely hijacking their senior night would go beyond rude to classless.  I'm all for seeing us crush them like gnats on the ice, and for plenty of resulting chants of "This is our house" - but if, e.g., traveling Princeton fans tried to make our senior night into theirs, we'd probably want to beat the crap out of them.  We have a senior night in Ithaca - thank the seniors then.  And then thank them at their last game in the playoffs, whenever that may be.

(Sorry, I had to chuckle out loud a little at using the phrase "traveling Princeton fans.")

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Beeeej]Personally, I think our fans purposely hijacking their senior night would go beyond rude to classless.  I'm all for seeing us crush them like gnats on the ice, and for plenty of resulting chants of "This is our house" - but if, e.g., traveling Princeton fans tried to make our senior night into theirs, we'd probably want to beat the crap out of them.  We have a senior night in Ithaca - thank the seniors then.  And then thank them at their last game in the playoffs, whenever that may be.[/quote]

I don't think Killer was suggesting we interfere with any Senior Night cermonies Harvard may have after the game.  Holding up signs and cheering for individual seniors during the game seems completely appropriate to me, since it will be the seniors' last RS game.

[Beeeej]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Beeeej]Personally, I think our fans purposely hijacking their senior night would go beyond rude to classless.  I'm all for seeing us crush them like gnats on the ice, and for plenty of resulting chants of "This is our house" - but if, e.g., traveling Princeton fans tried to make our senior night into theirs, we'd probably want to beat the crap out of them.  We have a senior night in Ithaca - thank the seniors then.  And then thank them at their last game in the playoffs, whenever that may be.[/quote]

I don't think Killer was suggesting we interfere with any Senior Night cermonies Harvard may have after the game.  Holding up signs and cheering for individual seniors during the game seems completely appropriate to me, since it will be the seniors' last RS game.[/quote]

I knew exactly what Killer was suggesting.  We have a senior night.  It's in Ithaca.

[Killer]

Exactly.  If Harvard does anything for their seniors after the game, anyone who sticks around should be totally respectful of their ceremony, as we would expect of visitors at Lynah.  I endorse no hijacking of anything official that Harvard does, regardless of when they do it.  You know, we should also make a point to respect the playing of their alma mater between periods, even if their fans don't seem to know the words or pay attention.  Heck, we're the Lynah Faithful, not the traveling goons of English soccer.

But for many of us who won't get to Senior Night at Lynah, it may be the last chance to say thanks.  Holding up a sign saying "Thank You Cornell Seniors", or naming the individuals, doesn't take anything away from Harvard.  In fact (and I know this is a long shot), maybe it would sink in with some of the Harvard fans that this is how you support your team.  I've had conversations with a number of Harvard parents that I've met in Albany or sitting in Section O at Lynah, and apart from a few of them saying things like, "Don't they know any words besides 'Sucks'?", the general sense is that they wish their fans were more like ours.  Dylan Reese's dad even told me he likes it when we hurl various taunts at his son.  He loves the passion that I guess he never sees from Harvard students and alumni.

So, no, no hijacking or disrespect for Harvard's Senior Night (assuming they have one).  But support of OUR team and thanks to OUR seniors?  You bet.

[Beeeej]

The tone of your first post in this thread strongly implied something much more than just focusing more than usual on the seniors in our always vocal support at Lynah East - it was very in-your-face.  If that extra focus is all you're hoping to do, I don't see anything wrong with it at all.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Beeeej][quote jtwcornell91][quote Beeeej]Personally, I think our fans purposely hijacking their senior night would go beyond rude to classless.  I'm all for seeing us crush them like gnats on the ice, and for plenty of resulting chants of "This is our house" - but if, e.g., traveling Princeton fans tried to make our senior night into theirs, we'd probably want to beat the crap out of them.  We have a senior night in Ithaca - thank the seniors then.  And then thank them at their last game in the playoffs, whenever that may be.[/quote]

I don't think Killer was suggesting we interfere with any Senior Night cermonies Harvard may have after the game.  Holding up signs and cheering for individual seniors during the game seems completely appropriate to me, since it will be the seniors' last RS game.[/quote]

I knew exactly what Killer was suggesting.  We have a senior night.  It's in Ithaca.[/quote]

Beeeej, to try and tell you nicely, I don't think you knew at all exactly what Killer was suggesting. I had the same impression that I think jtw did. Namely, saying something about our seniors, not about theirs.

I think this is another example of words vs. speech. I'm sure if you two were talking this wouldn't happen. We have to be careful in writing. I know, it's time for me to shut up, I've said this before.::smashfreak:: That's me getting pounded, not doing the pounding.

[Beeeej]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Beeeej][quote jtwcornell91][quote Beeeej]Personally, I think our fans purposely hijacking their senior night would go beyond rude to classless.  I'm all for seeing us crush them like gnats on the ice, and for plenty of resulting chants of "This is our house" - but if, e.g., traveling Princeton fans tried to make our senior night into theirs, we'd probably want to beat the crap out of them.  We have a senior night in Ithaca - thank the seniors then.  And then thank them at their last game in the playoffs, whenever that may be.[/quote]

I don't think Killer was suggesting we interfere with any Senior Night cermonies Harvard may have after the game.  Holding up signs and cheering for individual seniors during the game seems completely appropriate to me, since it will be the seniors' last RS game.[/quote]

I knew exactly what Killer was suggesting.  We have a senior night.  It's in Ithaca.[/quote]

Beeeej, to try and tell you nicely, I don't think you knew at all exactly what Killer was suggesting. I had the same impression that I think jtw did. Namely, saying something about our seniors, not about theirs.

I think this is another example of words vs. speech. I'm sure if you two were talking this wouldn't happen. We have to be careful in writing. I know, it's time for me to shut up, I've said this before.::smashfreak:: That's me getting pounded, not doing the pounding.[/quote]

No, I think you're right to an extent.  But there's a big difference between just being extra vocal toward our seniors during the game and doing something during the game that suggests we think it's our our senior night.  Killer's first post leaned heavily toward the latter, and nothing John said changed that.  Now that Killer himself has clarified a little better, I understand better.

[brm93]

I think Killer has both a good idea and the right tone.  How about during a play stoppage something like holding up a big sign (or two) saying, "Thank You Cornell Seniors From Your Fans at Lynah East" and then have a big individual sign (obviously in red marker) for each senior--and give them a name chant.  Both quick and loud.

We need to show that this is our house, but we still need to be respectful of all visitors and their activities.

[Killer]

[quote Beeeej]The tone of your first post in this thread strongly implied something much more than just focusing more than usual on the seniors in our always vocal support at Lynah East - it was very in-your-face.  If that extra focus is all you're hoping to do, I don't see anything wrong with it at all.[/quote]

Admittedly, in the haze of the morning after a late night entertaining friends from out of town, my tone probably was a bit in-your-face.  The intent always was to put the focus on our guys, at a time that would be appropriate, not to demean theirs.  Over the decades, they've been worthy opponents, and they deserve our respect for that (not to mention that they deserve better fans from the student body for their program).  If I find myself in the rink after the game and they're holding a ceremony, I'll applaud each and every one of them.  And I hope to find Reese's dad in the rink at some point to wish him and his son well (just not so much while he's on the ice against us:-)).

So, yes, let's give our guys that extra focus during the game, and then let Harvard salute theirs.

[min]

I'm not trying to be a party-pooper, but does anyone know what Cornell's overall record is when playing at Harvard? Unless the team has a winning record at Bright (or any rink before it), technically speaking it is not our house/rink. Nevertheless, everyone have fun for those who go!

[Jim Hyla]

[quote min]I'm not trying to be a party-pooper, but does anyone know what Cornell's overall record is when playing at Harvard? Unless the team has a winning record at Bright (or any rink before it), technically speaking it is not our house/rink. Nevertheless, everyone have fun for those who go![/quote]So that means, if my quick calcs are correct, Messa Rink is not Union's rink, since their Div 1 record there is 80-88 plus ties?::screwy:: There are teams that have a winning record there, so whose is it.::thud::

[billhoward]

[quote min]I'm not trying to be a party-pooper, but does anyone know what Cornell's overall record is when playing at Harvard? Unless the team has a winning record at Bright (or any rink before it), technically speaking it is not our house/rink. Nevertheless, everyone have fun for those who go![/quote]

Think of it as a timeshare: You're in occupancy, the other guy isn't, you control it that night or that week. If 300 Cornell partisans are more noticed then 2,000 or so Bright people, it's Cornell's house. Nobody cares about who leads the half of the overall series played at Harvard. And it's damned uplifting for the visiting team that actually has to earn its A's and B's vs. the NCAA's leading one-and-done squad.

[TimV]

I'm pretty sure we're way ahead in games played at Bright.  Because of the pre-1958 years, though we might be behind at Harvard.

[min]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote min]I'm not trying to be a party-pooper, but does anyone know what Cornell's overall record is when playing at Harvard? Unless the team has a winning record at Bright (or any rink before it), technically speaking it is not our house/rink. Nevertheless, everyone have fun for those who go![/quote]So that means, if my quick calcs are correct, Messa Rink is not Union's rink, since their Div 1 record there is 80-88 plus ties?::screwy:: There are teams that have a winning record there, so whose is it.::thud::[/quote]

Well, if Cornell (or any other team who has a winning record at Union) wants to claim Messa Rink as its own , it should be able to do so... ;-)

In fact, by my definition, Sacred Heart may very well own Lynah. As to Union, maybe they are just renting...:-)

My earlier point is that any claim of other team's home rink would be more justified if it's backed up by real victories, not just by number of bodies in the stands. I guess we each have different definitions/preferences.