Clarkson at Cornell postgame

Started by billhoward, February 02, 2007, 09:08:52 PM

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dto

Clarkson does the jock jams thing during warmups (or they did when I was there) and I hate it.  I could hear that crap on the radio; I'm there for the atmosphere which includes the band (except may Harvard's band, because if I wanted to go to a concert in Potsdam, State has a music school).

Maybe it was toothpaste that didn't bring their band, crap I can't remember now.  I wish today I would have stayed with the band for 4 years, but I worked in a bar, and it's tough to get every Friday and Saturday off.

RichH

[quote dto]Then again, Clarkson is an engineering school, so we aren't expected to have good grammar.[/quote]

As an engineer who was a TA for a course about technical writing, that's a real shame.  Part of being a good engineer/scientist is being able to communicate effectively.  For society and schools to say "you don't have to write well because you're an engineer," it's the wrong standard to set.

peterg

[quote redhair34][quote dto]Yeah, I was talking hockey with one of the ushers during warmups, and he said he loves how Cornell "puts" the opposite band against the glass.[/quote]


Since a number of people have commented about this I thought I'd throw my two cents in.  I can think of two possible explanations for why the the opposing bands have been pushed down to the glass this year.  When the band stands in the middle of the section it obstructs the view of the high rollers in the box seats.  Or the band doesn't obstruct their view, but athletics just wants to keep the band as far away from the box seats as possible.[/quote]

People standing in a section, other than in the top row, do not obstruct the view from the box.  [Oddly enough, when the top row of the section stands, the first row of the box has to stand and because they did not build in enough height differential between the two rows in the boxes - the ceiling is too low - when the first row of the box stands, the people in the second, top row of the box cannot see, even if they stand.  There have been lots of complaints about that - "Townies Up" means the top row of the boxes have obstructed views - not fun when there's a tight, exciting finish to the game.]

I would suspect that that reason for the seating change for the band is that the seats by the glass in that corner are simply perceived to be less desirable if you want to view the whole ice.

oceanst41

Well that was easily the best first period of the year. From the video feed I could hear that the crowd was somewhat louder than they have been for most games. I don't know if that really helped the fast start, but that combined with the first goal and Cornell played like they smelled blood in the water.

Sawada, Greening and Carefoot continued their great play from the past few games. Add to that players like Milo and Kennedy and Gallagher looking particularly fired up, and you had a Big Red team that was really playing with some confidence. They were continuing that physical play from the 'Gate and Clarkson looked unable to stop Cornell down low. During the second period especially this cycle led to a few PP chances.

As for the referee, I was actually happily surprised to see a game with some flow to it. There was almost, not quite, but almost a penalty free first. Now the penalty on Bitz, while it probably should have been a Clarkson penalty first as captain Bitz should know better than that. That is exactly what the Knights wanted, to get Cornell frustrated enough to take a cheap one and use that to claw back into the game. Luckily, Cornell maintained their big lead and didn't get caught up in that kind of game.

Finally, what was with Leggio? While some of those goals were a result of some hard work and great individual effort he looked like he was in poor position to stop those wrap-arounds. Aside from that he kept the game reasonable, because there were a few saves he probably had no business making.

RichH

[quote dto]I watched Scrivens in warmups ... they were right in front of me in section D and my pizza was already in my belly, so I was pretty much bored.  I was not at all impressed with him and I actually thought he was the backup to the backup.  He got really lucky on the rebounds tonight; he didn't get them to the sides in the game.  The Cornell defense outplayed Clarkson in front of the net though (funny, I remember having this exact conversation about Leggio earlier in the season).

This is a great experience for a freshman and I think he'll serve you well in the future, especially if your defense plays like it did last night.  However, you guys really need to get his hat painted.[/quote]

Hat?  ;-)

Scrivens is one of the most improved players on the team.  During the Red/White scrimmage, after Ben fell down and let in a horrible goal, I had a friend turn to me and ask in horror, "is that our goalie now?"  Now he's a good bet to get at least one start every week.  And I completely trust him to start now.

That said, Scrivens scares the crap out of me.  He flops, lunges, and just falls down before the puck is secure way too much for my comfort.  I dunno, maybe that's his style, and maybe it forces the defense to take control of the puck quickly when he's down and out.  For those who remember Andy Bandurski......yeah.

I completely agree with Ari that Davenport is more polished.  He has his weaknesses, but he's calmer and he's better positionally.

dto

Dang, now you're picking on my school.  We actually had a very good technical communications department when I was there, but there definitely wasn't much focus on the "fine art of the English language."  Actually, our equivalent of Literature 101 and 102 was called Great Ideas 1 and 2 and that was the last I remember seeing of literature.

dto

Yeah oceans... we've seen that on quite a few occasions this year with Leggio.  It seems he has great lateral movement when the play is in front of him, but very little on the wraparounds.  With that said, it doesn't seem that Clarkson's defence is interested in controlling the back of the net (I noticed that in the RPI game too).  Cornell's defence did a great job of boxing out Clarkson's forwards and not allowing chances on the long rebounds that Scrivens leaves out.  They helped compensate for their keeper's weakness, it's about time Clarkson's talented D does the same.

KP '06

[quote redhair34][quote dto]I went to Clarkson 92-96 and never saw Cornell's band up there (or if I did, I got way too drunk at happy hour to remember).  I watched the game from Cheel this year on the internet and I saw some Red fans, but don't recall seeing or hearing a band.[/quote]

The were there.  I'm guessing about one third of the band made the trip?[/quote]

About a dozen people made it as part of an unofficial alumni band. Last year (during the semester) a more sizable contingent made it up North.

The pep band has 51 tickets to home games. Considering that the full marching band typically has 150-200 people, you could say that only one third of the Big Red Bands gets to go to our home games.

mttgrmm

yeah i always thought wraparounds were something you did playing Blades of Steel because they almost always resulted in goals (and the AI never controlled the back of the net either)...

i can't think of many times off-hand when a single player has attacked one side, skated around and poked it in on the far side.  i can remember a lot where the player skates around and puts it into the slot right in front for a crashing forward, but no single-handed wraps... kinda crazy.

Drew

[quote ebilmes][quote evilnaturedrobot][quote ebilmes]
Cornell had a big win last night--isn't this supposed to be the time on eLynah when we all get along?[/quote]

well Clarkson is the one fanbase, aside from cornell that is, that has a pretty reasonable pressance on elynah, so it makes sense that there would be some contention (which I happen to enjoy, who likes preaching to the choir?)

however, it this case I'd say that most of the Clarkson fans have been pretty respectful and a few of the faithful are overreacting.[/quote]

 I was referring more to the grammar issue. It's expected that our Clarkson posters (with the exception of Drew) get contentious whenever we face each other.[/quote]
ebilmes, I like to give you guys shit every once in awhile. I try not to make it personal.

   Last night, I listened to half the 1st period (since my 5 year old convinced his mother he would sleep over his friends house, in which he lasted until 8:00, then I had to leave the computer, drive in a snowstorm to pick the little crumbsnatcher up! The driving was so horrible it took me forever to get back home,log in and see the game was over and my team lost 5-1 ARGHHHH!) so I couldn't make an educated post or argument on the game. (Not that it stops others).:-P

Ok, so you bastards won, congrats!  I have a funny feeling this was not our last tango this year. We will get after it again, hopefully in Albany, where we can meet in a bar, put faces with the names and really beat the shit out of each other.;-)
Cheers!
Drew

dto

Hahaha!  I'll have your back Drew ... I'm off to work, but to leave the Lynah faithful one last message ... BEAT SLU!!!

evilnaturedrobot

[quote Drew][quote ebilmes][quote evilnaturedrobot][quote ebilmes]
Cornell had a big win last night--isn't this supposed to be the time on eLynah when we all get along?[/quote]

well Clarkson is the one fanbase, aside from cornell that is, that has a pretty reasonable pressance on elynah, so it makes sense that there would be some contention (which I happen to enjoy, who likes preaching to the choir?)

however, it this case I'd say that most of the Clarkson fans have been pretty respectful and a few of the faithful are overreacting.[/quote]

 I was referring more to the grammar issue. It's expected that our Clarkson posters (with the exception of Drew) get contentious whenever we face each other.[/quote]
ebilmes, I like to give you guys shit every once in awhile. I try not to make it personal.

   Last night, I only listened to half the 1st period (since my 5 year old convinced his mother he would sleep over his friends house, in which he lasted until 8:00, then I had to leave the computer, drive in a snowstorm to pick the little crumbsnatcher up! The driving was so horrible it took me forever to get back home,log in and see the game was over and my team lost 5-1 ARGHHHH!) so I couldn't make an educated post or argument on the game. (Not that it stops others).:-P

Ok, so you bastards won, congrats!  I have a funny feeling this was not our last tango this year. We will get after it again, hopefully in Albany, where we can meet in a bar, put faces with the names and really beat the shit out of each other.;-)
Cheers!
Drew[/quote]

hey now!  we keep this inside the rink! which meens we'll have to find an isolated corner of the pepsi center to rumble (But if they say blades, I say blades. If they say guns, I say guns.)

then we'll go out for a drink:-D

jtwcornell91

[quote Drew]
Ok, so you bastards won, congrats!  I have a funny feeling this was not our last tango this year. We will get after it again, hopefully in Albany, where we can meet in a bar, put faces with the names and really beat the shit out of each other.;-)[/quote]

I think you mean "drink each other under the table".

Drew

quote jtwcornell91][quote Drew]
Ok, so you bastards won, congrats!  I have a funny feeling this was not our last tango this year. We will get after it again, hopefully in Albany, where we can meet in a bar, put faces with the names and really beat the shit out of each other.;-)[/quote]

I think you mean "drink each other under the table".[/quote]

Yes, all in good fun.::drunk::

Rich S

[quote Drew]

Ok, so you bastards won, congrats!  I have a funny feeling this was not our last tango this year. We will get after it again, hopefully in Albany, where we can meet in a bar, put faces with the names and really beat the shit out of each other.;-)
Cheers!
Drew[/quote]

I hope to go to Albany but can be there only on Friday.

If you guys want to "beat the shit" out of me, go for it.  But you gotta pay my bar tab first. :-D