Polls 9/27/04 (edited)

[Chris 02]

USCHO.com Division I Men's Preseason Poll
September 27, 2004

   Team        (First Place)    Record  Pts   Last Week
 1 Michigan             (17)   27-14-2  541     7
 2 Maine                 (9)    33-8-3  493     1
 3 Boston College        (2)    29-9-4  488     4
 4 Minnesota-Duluth      (4)   28-13-4  447     5
 5 North Dakota          (2)    30-8-3  413     2
 6 Minnesota                   27-14-3  331     3
 7 Denver                (4)   27-12-5  302     8
 8 Wisconsin             (1)   22-13-8  276    11
 9 Michigan State              24-16-2  262    12
10 New Hampshire         (1)   20-15-6  218    10
11 Dartmouth                   14-11-9  196    NR
12 Ohio State                  26-16-0  169     6
13 Cornell                     16-10-6  154    NR
14 Colorado College            20-16-3  149    14
15 Miami                       23-14-4   88     9

Others Receiving Votes: Mass.-Lowell 58, 
Boston University 47, Colgate 35, 
Northern Michigan 29, Notre Dame 27, Harvard 25, 
Massachusetts 21, Brown 10, Holy Cross 5, 
St. Cloud State 5, Clarkson 4, Niagara 4, 
Bowling Green 1, Mercyhurst 1, Rensselaer 1

USA Today/American Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
September 27, 2004

   Team                               Pts (1st) Last Record
 1 Boston College                     449 (9)    3   29-9-4  
 2 University of Michigan             441 (16)   7   27-14-2
 3 University of North Dakota         379 (1)    5   30-8-3
 4 University of Maine                374        2   33-8-3
 5 University of Minnesota-Duluth     348 (2)    4   28-13-4 
 6 University of Wisconsin            289 (2)    8   22-13-8
 7 University of Denver               280 (4)    1   27-12-5 
 8 University of Minnesota            260        6   27-14-3
 9 Michigan State University          240       14   20-16-3
10 University of New Hampshire        197       11   20-15-6
11 Dartmouth College                  172       NR   14-11-9
12 Colorado College                   108       15   20-16-3
13 Ohio State University              107        9   26-16-0
14 Cornell University                 104       NR   16-10-6
15 University of Massachusetts-Lowell  76       NR   10-23-7

Others receiving votes: Miami University (Ohio) 68, 
Boston University 62, Harvard University 28, 
University of Notre Dame 27, Colgate University 27, 
Brown University 15, University of Massachusetts 10,
Northern Michigan University 10, Mercyhurst College 3, 
Niagara University 3, Sacred Heart  University 3.

How is it that a team gets by far the most first place votes and ends up in 2nd?  Must have been a lot of 5ths and 6ths.

[calgARI '07]

Anybody else not affraid of Dartmouth?

[Jordan 04]

Still trying to figure out how Cornell is 13...

[Tub(a)]

[Q]Jordan 04 Wrote:

 Still trying to figure out how Cornell is 13...[/q]

I would say strength of recruiting class and returning players, and another year with McKee in the nets. Would you rank anyone below them differently?

[RichH]

[Q]Jordan 04 Wrote:

 Still trying to figure out how Cornell is 13...[/q]

Simple: the pollsters, looking to fill in their lists, grab, in order, the top few teams from the recently announced ECAC media poll.  Viola...enough poll points to crack the top 15, even though not 1 thing has been proven on any frozen water.  Happens every year.

[KeithK]

[q]Simple: the pollsters, looking to fill in their lists, grab, in order, the top few teams from the recently announced ECAC media poll.[/q]Besides, the pollsters remember seeing Cornell in the FF.  That'll get a few cheap early season votes for a couple of years.

[A-19]

most of those teams ahead and behind us will begin play much earlier than we do anyway. look for DM and us to drop accordingly.

[Jordan 04]

[Q]Tub(a) Wrote:

 [Q2]Jordan 04 Wrote:

 Still trying to figure out how Cornell is 13...[/Q]
I would say strength of recruiting class and returning players, and another year with McKee in the nets. Would you rank anyone below them differently? [/q]

Well, I guess it all depends on how the pollsters balance last year vs. 2004-05 projections, but I'd start with the team that finished ahead of us in the standings last year, and maybe the defending ECAC champions as well -- and that's just from our conference...I don't know enough about the others to argue for their placement ahead of us.

Not that I don't like seeing us there coming off such a disappointing end of the year and the loss of a few key components -- it just struck me as a little high to start the year.  But here's hoping we play like #13 coming out, and only get better

[Greg Berge]

Looks like the Harvard Effect (pre-season hype) works to our advantage this year.

Now let's hope we don't do with it what Harvard does each Winter....