04-05 recruit Tyler Mugford

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]Greg Wrote:

 [Q2]imagine how much more impressive McKee would be if he'd played juniors for a year last year and he came in this year as a freshman.[/Q]
Hard to get more impressive than .920 1.84 / .939 1.37 in conference, as a freshman.

Man, it's still 5 more months...[/q]
Yeah, but 5 more is better than 6 more.

[sdh33]

If schafer really wanted to replace him, I'm sure he could find somebody, even if it was just a guy off of the club team who would never play. He's probably wary of having too few players, especially after the game in Colgate where there was barely enough people to play. Couldn't hurt to have extra guys, is there an NCAA limit to how many players you can have on the roster?

[Greg Berge]

That's a good question.  I'm not sure whether a "roster" has any official existence in terms of NCAA rules.  You can only dress 18 skaters and 3 goalies, and you can only play who you skate in the warm-up.  But beyond that, for all I know every undergraduate male (and perhaps female) in good standing at Cornell is game-eligible.

[CowbellGuy]

Didn't Pegoraro skate in place of Vesce when Ryan couldn't go, even though Dan didn't skate in warm-ups this yer? =]

You probably need to clear it with the ref, but it's not hard-and-fast.

[Tom Lento]

I think the coach has to provide a list of eligible players to the ref before the game.  This is separate from the starting lineup, which must be presented by the visiting team by a certain time so the home team has a chance to match lines.  I suspect if a player is on this list, he would be eligible to play even if he doesn't actually skate in the warmups.  I could go look up the rule for the exact wording, but I'm way too lazy for that.

There's also a limit to the number of players you can list as eligible.  Again, too lazy to look it up, but I believe it's around 25.  21 for the game plus a few alternates in case someone gets injured in the warmups, which is what happened with Pegoraro and Vesce.

[billhoward]

I'm pretty sure you can have as many people as you want actually skate with the team in practice in hopes of playing. There's a limit on NCAA scholarships but that's not an issue for an Ivy team. And there's the limit of how many can be in the lineup for the game, the 18 + 3 (goalies) cap.

OTOH, it's not good PR for the school to have, say, 35 reasonable candidates, because 14 of them are going to be disappointed, and some of them will go back home and tell their younger friends the school isn't realistic about your chances of playing. So it sounds as if Cornell's approximately 26-27 returnees plus incoming players is just about right.

[KeithK]

IIRC there is a limit to how many players you can travel with on any given roadtrip, but that's different from a roster limit.
Every undergraduate student in good standing who otherwise meets the eligibility requirements (age, 5 year clock, etc.) should be eligible to play.  The NC$$ is all about the student-athlete after all...

[ursusminor]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 I'm pretty sure you can have as many people as you want actually skate with the team in practice in hopes of playing. There's a limit on NCAA scholarships but that's not an issue for an Ivy team. And there's the limit of how many can be in the lineup for the game, the 18 + 3 (goalies) cap.  [/q] Besides for the limit of 18 scholarships, there is also a limit as to how many players can receive scholarships -- something in the 30's. That is, one can't give 1/10 of a scholarship to each of 180 players. However, as you said, these limits aren't an issue for the Ivies.

[KeithK]

[q]Besides for the limit of 18 scholarships, there is also a limit as to how many players can receive scholarships[/q]Aside tfrom that uncertain limit, can a team break up scholarships anyway it wants?  That is, give 1/10 scholarships, or 1/5 or whatever?  I've certainly heard of half scholarships, but not so much of smaller fractions (which proves nothing really).

[ursusminor]

[Q]KeithK Wrote:

 [Q2]Besides for the limit of 18 scholarships, there is also a limit as to how many players can receive scholarships[/Q]
Aside tfrom that uncertain limit, can a team break up scholarships anyway it wants?  That is, give 1/10 scholarships, or 1/5 or whatever?  I've certainly heard of half scholarships, but not so much of smaller fractions (which proves nothing really).[/q]
That's my understanding -- they can be broken up into any fraction, subject to the other restrictions.

[KeithK]

[q]That's my understanding -- they can be broken up into any fraction, subject to the other restrictions.[/q]
"Here kid.  Here's $20 bucks, go buy yourself some pitchers.  Don't worry, it's not a violation.  It's just a 0.2% scholarship..."

[jeh25]

[Q]KeithK Wrote:

 [Q2]Besides for the limit of 18 scholarships, there is also a limit as to how many players can receive scholarships[/Q]
Aside tfrom that uncertain limit, can a team break up scholarships anyway it wants?  That is, give 1/10 scholarships, or 1/5 or whatever?  I've certainly heard of half scholarships, but not so much of smaller fractions (which proves nothing really).[/q]

I have nothing to back this up, but I thought some MAAC teams had given 1/4 scholarships as part of their cost containment strategy.