Cornell lacrosse 2016

Started by billhoward, June 03, 2015, 09:20:46 PM

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billhoward

Quote from: CU77Great win by Brown. Reminded me of Cornell's epic beat-down of Hopkins in the 77 national championship game (13-1 in the third, 16-8 final).
Are we agreed it's okay to root for Brown because they are of our kind and/but they're not Harvard (or Yale)? I'd really like to see Brown go all the way. Plus they have a nice stadium for lax and soccer (Stevenson Field, capacity 3500), although today it was bursting at the seams. (This is the field Cornell needs. Our Berman Field only has about 1,000 capacity and IIRC the seats aren't that far above the ground where Stevenson Field is really elevated. Let's see if Schoellkopf Field feels more intimate if the field is moved right up to the edge of the Crescent seating.

CU77

I'm rooting for Brown. They're fun to watch. Yale is dull, I'm hoping they lose to Navy. I really don't want to see Brown lose to Yale in the quarters; Navy would be an easier opponent for Brown.

I also wish Cornell had a dedicated lax/soccer field with 3K or so seating. But an indoor facility is a bigger need for a successful lax program.

Quarterfinals at Brown will be in the football stadium, site of Cornell's epic 1976 championship win over Maryland.

billhoward

In the eastern bracket at Brown Saturday, Maryland is too much for Syracuse. Brown is being played close by Navy. Brown is missing Dylan Molloy who, shades of Rob Pannell, broke his foot. Happened in the second half of last week's 17-8 romp over Hopkins; the announcers early in the fourth said it's a runaway and Brown should pull its starters to avoid a rout and to avoid injuries.

QF at Brown Saturday 5/21/16
Maryland 13, Syracuse 7
Brown 11, Navy 10. Connors, Navy goalie, has 21 saves. Here's a neat trick Cornell might want to use when leading a key NCAA game by one with just a few seconds to go, with possession, and you're about to be trapped by the defense: Heave the ball up, up, up and toward the opponent's net. Burn off enough time to make the game effectively over when the ball comes down.
Maryland-Brown meet in semifinals next Saturday

QF Sunday at Columbus, Ohio Stadium (capacity 104,944)
North Carolina 13, Notre Dame 9 (final, after ND made a 4-goal run last 5 minutes to make it respectable)
Loyola 10, Towson 8
With 3-seed ND gone, remaining teams in the Ohio bracket are Loyola 7 and UNC / Towson unseeded. In this bracket without Molloy, Brown might have had a good shot at making the title game.

Swampy

Quote from: billhowardDylan Malloy ... Brown should pull its starters to avoid a rout and to avoid injuries.
Yeah. Brown was favored to win the NC. This really reduces Brown's chance.

QF at Brown Saturday 5/21/16
Maryland 13, Syracuse 7
Brown 11, Navy 10. Connors, Navy goalie, has 21 saves. Here's a neat trick Cornell might want to use when leading a key NCAA game by one with just a few seconds to go, with possession, and you're about to be trapped by the defense: Heave the ball up, up, up and toward the opponent's net. Burn off enough time to make the game effectively over when the ball comes down.
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Now you tell us! ::bang::

Actually, I saw Brown do something like this when they played Yale. It came down in the neighborhood of the goal and bounced out of bounds. Brown had an attackman positioned by the end line, so the ref called it a shot and gave the ball to Brown.

billhoward

Quote from: SwampyActually, I saw Brown do something like this when they played Yale. It came down in the neighborhood of the goal and bounced out of bounds. Brown had an attackman positioned by the end line, so the ref called it a shot and gave the ball to Brown.
Now that's a neat trick with an attackman on the end line so the heave becomes a quote shot.

Molloy gets one more year since he's a junior.

CU77

Molloy gets another year but his supporting cast will be mostly gone, so it's unlikely Brown will be a top-4 team next year.

Lots of excellent play in the tournament, including by last-team-in Navy and 3rd-to-last in UNC. Cornell will have a tough task to stay at a nationally competitive level.

billhoward

Maryland lost a 2-goal lead late in the fourth quarter of the 2016 NCAA lax title game and fell in OT to North Carolina. That keeps alive Maryland's incredible streak of not winning a title game since 1975 - 42 seasons. Since then, the Terps are 0-8 in title games. From 2011-2016, they made the final four 5 times with 4 title game losses. UNC hadn't won since 1991. It was also UNC over defending champ Maryland in the women's title game.

Maryland just got by Brown in the 2016 semifinal. Dylan Molloy played (barely) with a broken foot, Brown made up a 4-goal deficit late to force OT. Too bad for Bruno, which is a senior-heavy team, unless they have an incredible recruiting season.

In comparison, it's been 39 seasons since Cornell's last championship, since then 0-3 in title games.


Year Winner        Runner-up
2016 North Carolina [b]Maryland[/b]    
2015 Denver   [b]Maryland[/b]
2014 Duke       Notre Dame
2013 Duke       Syracuse
2012 Loyola       [b]Maryland[/b]
2011 Virginia       [b]Maryland[/b]
2010 Duke       Notre Dame
2009 Syracuse       [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b]        
2008 Syracuse       Johns Hopkins
2007 Johns Hopkins   Duke        
2006 Virginia       Massachusetts
2005 Johns Hopkins   Duke        
2004 Syracuse       Navy        
2003 Virginia       Johns Hopkins
2002 Syracuse       Princeton
2001 Princeton       Syracuse
2000 Syracuse       Princeton
1999 Virginia       Syracuse
1998 Princeton       [b]Maryland[/b]
1997 Princeton       [b]Maryland[/b]
1996 Princeton       Virginia
1995 Syracuse       [b]Maryland[/b]
1994 Princeton       Virginia
1993 Syracuse       North Carolina
1992 Princeton       Syracuse
1991 North Carolina  Towson        
1990 Syracuse       Loyola
1989 Syracuse       Johns Hopkins
1988 Syracuse       [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b]        
1987 Johns Hopkins   [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b]        
1986 North Carolina  Virginia
1985 Johns Hopkins   Syracuse
1984 Johns Hopkins   Syracuse
1983 Syracuse       Johns Hopkins
1982 North Carolina  Johns Hopkins
1981 North Carolina  Johns Hopkins
1980 Johns Hopkins   Virginia
1979 Johns Hopkins   [b]Maryland[/b]
1978 Johns Hopkins   Cornell        
1977 [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b]       Johns Hopkins
1976 [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b]       Maryland
1975 [b]Maryland[/b]       Navy        
1974 Johns Hopkins   [b]Maryland[/b]
1973 [b]Maryland[/b]       Johns Hopkins
1972 Virginia       Johns Hopkins
1971 [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b]       [b]Maryland[/b]

billhoward

Dom Starsia (Brown '73) was released as Virginia lax coach after 24 years, 13 final fours, and 4 NCAA titles. But the last title was 2011. In the ACC, Virginia was 1-15 the last four years.

http://www.laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/2015-16/news/052616_stevens_does_starsias_ouster_take_lacrosse says the number of coaching changes is up in the last five years and talks about how schools are quicker to make a change in head coaches after only a couple bad seasons (Richie Meade at Navy, for example).

It's pretty late in the season for Virginian to find a new head coach. Maybe they'll punt on 2017, temporarily elevate an assistant, and use the year to find one? http://www.streakingthelawn.com/2016/6/2/11840856/virginia-lacrosse-coach-contracts-marc-van-arsdale-dom-starsia says longtime assistant Marc Van Arsdale has his contract extended through the end of the 2017 season. It described Starsia's departure as "termination without cause." According to the https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/cavaliers-journal/post/virginia-mens-lacrosse-coach-dom-starsia-signed-new-five-year-contract-in-january/2012/02/20/gIQAlTkPPR_blog.html, Starsia's 2012 contract called for him to make $250,000 plus longevity bonuses of $225,000 if he was head coach as of January 2015 and $150,000 if he was coach as of the contract's January 2017 termination date. Before the 2012 contract he was making just over $150,000.

Interesting to see how long Brown holds on to Sean Kirwin (Tufts '12), assistant at Tufts 2 years and now Brown 2 years. He's getting a lot of credit for developing the Brown attack. A Virginia would probably like to see him as head coach somewhere at a small school for 2-3 years (or at least have another couple years at Brown) and if he makes things happen there, make him a nice offer.

A five-year-old Bloomberg story says several Big Ten schools committed about $10 million top make their men's and women's lax teams competitive and annual operating expenses are about $2M a year. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-05-27/lacrosse-private-party-is-crashed-by-michigan-wolverines-with-10-million

This is an arms race the Ivies may have trouble matching. Except that Brown probably was the best team this year until Dylan Molloy broke his foot. He did win the Tewaarton.

billhoward

Matt Madelon (Roanoke '06), the interim lax coach, is made permanent at Princeton. http://www.goprincetontigers.com/news/2016/6/21/matt-madalon-named-head-mens-lacrosse-coach.aspx

Ousted coach Chris Bates winds up at Episcopal Academy ( Newtown Square, PA). http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20160705/SPORTS/160709845  And explains his actions (bumping a Brown player on the field) that got him suspended than fired: http://www.laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/2015-16/news/070616_bates_breaks_silence_in_letter_to_lacrosse_community


woodpile

Can anyone comment on Ryan and Dom no longer being part of the lacrosse program?

dag14

I am pretty sure that Ryan only needs one semester to graduate so I am guessing -- no inside info; just a guess -- that he is taking a leave of absence in the fall and will be back in the spring.  Others have done this in the past.

No clue about DM.

woodpile

Kerwick dismissed Dom from the team. Post by a teammate on Laxpower today.

scoop85

Quote from: woodpileKerwick dismissed Dom from the team. Post by a teammate on Laxpower today.

That post must have been deleted by the moderator, as there's nothing of that nature on the Cornell thread.

woodpile

The post was entered about 5 pm yesterday and was up for approx 30 min before it was deleted.  It was authored by a person who claimed to be a friend and teammate of Dom's (and a recent grad) and who stated that Kerwick called DM in June to tell him he was " no longer welcome" on the team.  The poster also stated that there were no off-field incidents; no other specifics were provided.