Revenues from Div I Hockey Teams

Chris '03 · January 22, 2009, 02:23:51 PM

[quote CowbellGuy]All teams do. I definitely echo your sentiments about ND.[/quote]

This is something I've wondered about. In the past I'm pretty sure Schafer has been quoted in the press saying that the athletic department needs him to have X home games for revenue purposes. Wouldn't two games at [insert big arena western school] satisfy the need for revenue (even less the expenses of travel) of two home games vs. Army and SHU if all gates are getting split 50/50? I can't imagine CU is making that much off of incidental things like concessions.

KeithK · January 22, 2009, 02:27:38 PM

[quote Chris '03][quote CowbellGuy]All teams do. I definitely echo your sentiments about ND.[/quote]

This is something I've wondered about. In the past I'm pretty sure Schafer has been quoted in the press saying that the athletic department needs him to have X home games for revenue purposes. Wouldn't two games at [insert big arena western school] satisfy the need for revenue (even less the expenses of travel) of two home games vs. Army and SHU if all gates are getting split 50/50? I can't imagine CU is making that much off of incidental things like concessions.[/quote]
I wouldn't have expected that the split was 50-50. Something like 60-40 or 2/3 home team would've been my guess. I don't have any information to back up this guess so I'm certainly willing to believe Age.

BCrespi · January 22, 2009, 02:38:19 PM

[quote Chris '03][quote CowbellGuy]All teams do. I definitely echo your sentiments about ND.[/quote]

This is something I've wondered about. In the past I'm pretty sure Schafer has been quoted in the press saying that the athletic department needs him to have X home games for revenue purposes. Wouldn't two games at [insert big arena western school] satisfy the need for revenue (even less the expenses of travel) of two home games vs. Army and SHU if all gates are getting split 50/50? I can't imagine CU is making that much off of incidental things like concessions.[/quote]

Don't forget about the always lucrative CHA 50-50 Raffle!

Beeeej · January 22, 2009, 03:55:11 PM

[quote Chris '03][quote CowbellGuy]All teams do. I definitely echo your sentiments about ND.[/quote]

This is something I've wondered about. In the past I'm pretty sure Schafer has been quoted in the press saying that the athletic department needs him to have X home games for revenue purposes. Wouldn't two games at [insert big arena western school] satisfy the need for revenue (even less the expenses of travel) of two home games vs. Army and SHU if all gates are getting split 50/50? I can't imagine CU is making that much off of incidental things like concessions.[/quote]

That revenue also doesn't happen in a vacuum; it's great if we get $25,000 of the gate from playing at [insert big arena western school], but we also have to spend a lot of money getting the players there, feeding them, and putting them up in a hotel. That's not true at home.

Chris '03 · January 22, 2009, 04:14:43 PM

[quote Beeeej][quote Chris '03][quote CowbellGuy]All teams do. I definitely echo your sentiments about ND.[/quote]

This is something I've wondered about. In the past I'm pretty sure Schafer has been quoted in the press saying that the athletic department needs him to have X home games for revenue purposes. Wouldn't two games at [insert big arena western school] satisfy the need for revenue (even less the expenses of travel) of two home games vs. Army and SHU if all gates are getting split 50/50? I can't imagine CU is making that much off of incidental things like concessions.[/quote]

That revenue also doesn't happen in a vacuum; it's great if we get $25,000 of the gate from playing at [insert big arena western school], but we also have to spend a lot of money getting the players there, feeding them, and putting them up in a hotel. That's not true at home.[/quote]

Hence the "even less the expenses of travel" part of my question. Is 50% of the gate at the Kohl Center for two nights - flights, hotels, food, and other expenses of travel < 50% of the gate at Lynah times two(~$80-85k?)?

upperdeck · January 22, 2009, 04:14:57 PM

Are you sure the split the gate? do they do this in any other sports? they dont in any big time bball or football leagues.

CowbellGuy · January 22, 2009, 05:06:29 PM

Yes, I'm sure. Honestly couldn't give a crap what baseball or football do.

Townie · January 24, 2009, 08:48:50 AM

[quote CowbellGuy]Yes, I'm sure. Honestly couldn't give a crap what baseball or football do.[/quote]

It's not correct that the gate gets split with the visitor, at least not when I was working in athletics. There was a time when Ivy football revenue was split among the league, but I believe that policy was eliminated several years ago. It's correct that the home team typically pays for TV coverage (unless you're a big time football/basketball program). The hope is TV advertising revenue will defray broadcast expenses. Sometimes both teams will share broadcast expenses.

The numbers in the spreadsheet are probably derived from the "EDA" reports. There are no reporting standards for EDA report, and every school accounts for things differently,so comparisons between schools are pretty meaningless. What's relevant is looking at expenditures for men's programs versus women's programs for a given school. That is one of the Title IX complance measures, the value of which is constantly debated.