hockey fund raiser

[Keith K]

I don't think I'm "entitled" to have a free audio feed in the sense of it being a god given right.  But I do think that the Atheltic Department should provide a free feed as a service to students and alums who want to follow the team from afar.  IMNSHO it's a good business decision since it allows alums to more readily follow the team from afar.  Those who follow more closely are more likely to support the team financially.  Also, we've shown a willingness in the past to provide support (voluntary support, not fees) to maintain such a service.

So I disagree with both the decision to use OCSN and the way things have been handled by the AD.  And I'm withholding money for both reasons.  I don't see that as "taking my ball home".  I see it as a logical economic decision.

[melissa\'01]

CULater- Don't want to get into a whole argument - that isn't my idea of a fun friday - but just wanted to point out that your posts are doing a lot of assuming about the thoughts and beliefs of others ... and we all know what is said of people who assume .... ;-)

to restate what many others have said - it isn't about the $. it is about a lack of respect on the part of the AD.  7$/ month is chump change for people who spend hundreds to thousands of dollars per year to see the team play all over the northeast.

[jtwcornell91]

melissa'01 wrote:

to restate what many others have said - it isn't about the $. it is about a lack of respect on the part of the AD.  7$/ month is chump change for people who spend hundreds to thousands of dollars per year to see the team play all over the northeast.

And in some cases the Midwest and Southeast as well. B-]

[Josh '99]

I'd like to present this thread with the following:

[CUlater \'89]

I understand your point that you believe it is a logical economic decision to withhold money, and I agree but only to the extent you have decided to not pay for the service.  Not paying for the service harms RealNetworks and the AD (in a limited sense), the parties "at fault" for both the decision and the results.  Withholding other funds that you would ordinarily have contributed extends the "harm" to others (the team, other AD teams, the University as a whole) which I believe is unfair and out of proportion.

[jtwcornell91]

This is what we're really talking about here.  We don't wield power directly over the Athletic Department, so we try to influence them by the means at our disposal.

[jeh25]

(and yes, I'm glad team orders this year mean that the McRaes and Sammy P won't see this awful, insensitive post....)

[Greg Berge]

Oh man, I peed my pants!  (No, really... that's embarrassing....)  Thanks, John.  :-D  :-D  :-D

BRA, I loved my four years at Cornell and get weepy at the Alma Mater & etc just as much as you.  Cornell The Platonic Ideal I Loved and Loathed I'd give my right arm for.  Cornell The Corporation is just another shell game.  But hey, I'm just another retard (see above)...

[Robb]

Ogletorp, don't think that the players voluntarily take time out of their busy schedules to help the future of Cornell Hockey.  As a varsity athlete, Cornell "forces" (no, not physically, but don't get picky with me) you to participate in the telethons.  And if you make the mistake of doing it too well, they make you come back the following week for the follow-up session to call people that weren't home the week before.  Been there, done that.  And my understanding while we were doing it was that all the $$$ went into the general athletic dept budget, not to my specific team.  That may have changed, though, what with all the recent emphasis on teams being self-funded.  Yes, you could truthfully tell the folks on the phone that they were helping your team, in the general sense that it gave the AD more money to divvy up, but I'm pretty sure that our team's budget was fixed and independent of telethon results.