Hockey polls 12/4/06 - Cornell 12th not 13th both polls

[billhoward]

[edit fixing to correct that Cornell moves up not down one place] Tie and a big win raise Cornell one place, to No. 12 and still tops among ECACHL teams. Alas, just three ECAC teams make the polls.

USA Hockey / USA Today 12/4/06
No.    Team         Points   Record   Last week   Weeks in top 15
1   Minnesota            504 (28)   13-1-3   1   10
2   New Hampshire   480 (6)   11-2-1   2   10
3   Maine            414   9-3-1   3   10
4   Miami (Ohio)   406   13-5-0   4   10
5   Notre Dame   392   12-3-1   5   7
6   Boston College   337   8-4-1   7   10
7   Michigan            297   12-5-0   6   10
8   St. Cloud State   276   8-3-3   11   5
9   Colorado College   185   10-5-1   NR   3
10   North Dakota   183   7-6-1   10   10 [edit not 7-7-1]
11   Boston University   181   5-3-5   9   10
12   Cornell            129   8-3-1   13   9
13   Denver             99   9-6-1   8   9
14   Michigan State    66   7-7-1   12   10
15   Vermont             62   9-5-1   NR   3

Others receiving votes: University of Massachusetts, 38; Clarkson University, 14; Dartmouth College, 6; Lake Superior State University, 5; University of Alaska-Anchorage, 4; University of Alaska, 1; Sacred Heart University, 1.

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USCHO/CSTV POLL December 4, 2006 [and I'm not going to try to heavily format this one. Look what trouble I got into, above]

Team (First Place Votes) Record Points Last Poll 
1 Minnesota (36) 13-1-3 796 1 
2 New Hampshire ( 4) 11-2-1 753 2 
3 Maine  9-3-1 685 3 
4 Miami  13-5-0 678 4 
5 Notre Dame  12-3-1 647 5 
6 Boston College  8-4-1 582 7 
7 Michigan  12-5-0 530 6 
8 St. Cloud State  8-3-3 522 10 
9 Colorado College  10-5-1 427 15 
10 North Dakota  7-6-1 383 11 
11 Boston University  5-3-5 369 9 
12 Cornell  8-3-1 359 13
13 Denver  9-6-1 293 8 
14 Vermont  9-5-1 255 18 
15 Michigan State  7-7-1 238 12 
16 Massachusetts  7-3-2 183 19 
17 Clarkson  10-5-1 173 NR 
18 Dartmouth  5-3-2 147 17 
19 Alaska  6-4-4 108 14 
20 Lake Superior  10-5-1 75 NR

Others Receiving Votes: Quinnipiac 73, St. Lawrence 43, Yale 26, Alaska-Anchorage 17, Northern Michigan 12, Niagara 10, Sacred Heart 7, Bemidji State 4, Wisconsin 2, Michigan Tech 1, Ohio State 1, RIT 1

[French Rage]

Uhh...

[Rosey]

[quote billhoward]Tie and a big win drop Cornell one place[/quote]
Uh... "big win"?  They creamed a team they should have creamed, and tied a team they should at least have beaten easily.  The drop doesn't surprise me at all.

Kyle

[ebilmes]

We also moved up one spot in USA Today.

Everblades (Florida) Outlook:
UNH #2
Maine #3
Cornell #12
Western Michigan

[Oat]

NoDak lost 7 times.. and is a top ten team?

[calgARI '07]

[quote Oat]NoDak lost 7 times.. and is a top ten team?[/quote]

Cornell losing to Wayne State and still being a top fifteen team is equally if not more baffling.  North Dakota plays a pretty tough schedule.  They beat the hell out of Quinnipiac twice so they should certainly be ranked if Cornell is.

[Will]

[quote Oat]NoDak lost 7 times.. and is a top ten team?[/quote]

Western bias. :-D

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Oat]NoDak lost 7 times.. and is a top ten team?[/quote]
Well, they did beat the US Under-18s in OT.

[bandrews37]

French, are you the only other one who noticed the lack of reading comprehension?

For those of you keeping score at home, Cornell moved UP one spot, from 13th last week to 12th this week.

[reilly83]

French, are you the only other one who noticed the lack of reading comprehension?

Nah, I noticed too, but was in too much of a hurry to read the "Peck the Sieve" thread to comment earlier.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote calgARI '07][quote Oat]NoDak lost 7 times.. and is a top ten team?[/quote]

Cornell losing to Wayne State and still being a top fifteen team is equally if not more baffling.  North Dakota plays a pretty tough schedule.  They beat the hell out of Quinnipiac twice so they should certainly be ranked if Cornell is.[/quote]

How many times have they beat Canisius?

[French Rage]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote calgARI '07][quote Oat]NoDak lost 7 times.. and is a top ten team?[/quote]

Cornell losing to Wayne State and still being a top fifteen team is equally if not more baffling.  North Dakota plays a pretty tough schedule.  They beat the hell out of Quinnipiac twice so they should certainly be ranked if Cornell is.[/quote]

How many times have they beat Canisius?[/quote]

Only 4, but they'll round it out to 10 by the season's end.

[RichH]

[quote bandrews37]French, are you the only other one who noticed the lack of reading comprehension?

For those of you keeping score at home, Cornell moved UP one spot, from 13th last week to 12th this week.[/quote]

Also, it wasn't specified which poll this is.  I'm familiar enough with the polls to know that the one that ranks Top 15 is USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine.

[Beeeej]

[quote krose][quote billhoward]Tie and a big win drop Cornell one place[/quote]
Uh... "big win"?  They creamed a team they should have creamed, and tied a team they should at least have beaten easily.  The drop doesn't surprise me at all.[/quote]

Then the fact that we moved up should really be shocking.

[Rosey]

[quote Beeeej]Then the fact that we moved up should really be shocking.[/quote]
I'd like to point out that I, probably like most of the others who made this mistake, didn't look at the actual poll results from both weeks, but relied on Bill's faulty interpretation:
[quote billhoward]Tie and a big win drop Cornell one place, from No. 12 to No. 13[/quote]
The point has been made and acknowledged.  I still wouldn't be surprised if we had dropped one place.

Cheers,
Kyle