Polls 12/6

[chris \'06]

December 6, 2004

   Team        (First Place)    Record  Pts   Last Week
 1 Minnesota            (27)    11-4-0  582     1
 2 Wisconsin             (    12-4-0  534     4
 3 Colorado College      (3)    11-3-0  528     3
 4 Michigan              (1)    11-4-1  468     5
 5 Boston College        (1)     6-3-3  415     2
 6 Denver                       10-5-0  375     7
 7 New Hampshire                10-3-2  361     8
 8 Ohio State                   11-4-1  316     9
 9 North Dakota                 10-6-2  249     6
10 Vermont                       9-4-3  224    11
11 Maine                        10-6-2  223    10
12 Cornell                       7-2-2  174    12
13 Colgate                      12-4-0  142    13
14 Boston University             9-6-0   93    NR
15 Northern Michigan             8-4-2   63    15

Others Receiving Votes: Harvard 23, Bowling Green 13,
Minnesota-Duluth 9, Michigan State 3, Nebraska-Omaha 2,
Union 2, Alaska-Anchorage 1

[calgARI '07]

How 'bout those Catamounts?

Really hope Cornell gets a shot at Maine down in Florida.

[Greg Berge]

Nice to see there is no truly towering, unbeatable national power this year.  It's a good year to compete -- any of the top 10ish teams have a legitimate shot.

[Killer]

So what do we think is in our best interest when Vermont plays Harvard this Tuesday?

I'm going to the game and would love to root against both, but 2 points are at stake and both teams are ahead of us right now.  Granted, it's taken Harvard 9 games to get their 11 points, but ever since their debacle in NYS, they've been pretty hot.  Vermont, OTOH, hasn't lost in their last 11 games and now sits 10th in the poll.

I could never bring myself to root for anyone getting hurt, so what's the best outcome: Harvard wins, then all their players get suspended after finals for only getting B's?  :-P

[calgARI '07]

Well if Harvard beats Vermont, then there will probably be four ECAC teams ranked next week.  When was the last time that happened?

[Chris 02]

Kinda hard to believe that a WCHA team, St. Cloud is the underdog at the Florida tournament given the success of the WCHA this year.  If only Ohio State would have kept their spot this year, we'd have all four teams in the tournament in the top 15.  And Cornell would be the underdog.

[Greg Berge]

St. Cloud's sitting in the second division in the WCHA this year, whereas the other three schools are all ranked.  Of course, now watch SCSU win it...  ::uhoh::

[chris \'06]

EAM                        PTS    Record    Last week
    ----                        ---    ------   ----------
 1. Minnesota (29)              504    11-4-0         1
 2. Colorado College            459    11-3-0         4
 3. Wisconsin                   458    12-4-0         2
 4. Michigan                    406    11-4-1         5
 5. Boston College              361     6-3-3         3
 6. Denver                      322    10-5-0         8
 7. New Hampshire               317    10-3-2         7
 8. Ohio State                  267    11-4-1        10
 9. North Dakota                237    10-6-2         6
10. Maine                       205    10-6-2         9
11. Vermont                     178     9-4-3        11
12. Cornell                     126     7-2-2        12
13. Colgate                     100    12-4-0        13
14. Boston University            73     77-2        NR
15. Northern Michigan            52     8-4-2        15


Others receiving votes: Harvard University 9, 
University of Minnesota-Duluth 6

[KeithK]

How 'bout a big benchclearing brawl that gives multiple DQs to every player on both teams - enough to keep them all out until their next non-conference game?  That way both teams really do lose, but only in conference! :-D

[ben03]

BU is having one hell of a season! :-P

[billhoward]

You want Harvard to beat Vermont.

a) Root for Ivy over ECACHL, NYS ECACHL over New England ECACHL (not an issue here), ECACHL over Hockey East, East over West.

b) Root against the team that has fewer league losses. We're still expecting Cornell to win both the regular season title and the playoffs, right? Vermont is due to come crashing down at some point, but by then they may enough points to make Cornell's traditional late season charge inadequate, as Colgate did last year and possibly might this year. (Union, Harvard, Colgate, Vermont, and Brown have 12 11 or 10 points to Cornell's 9, but Colgate and Vermont have done it in just six games (as has Cornell) while the others have played 8 or 9.)

Also in general root for good academic school over non-academic school (ie Stanford or Cal in football, hoops), also good no-scholarship academic school over good academic scholarship school.

And root for small school especially with good academics, eg Hopkins in lax over Maryland or Colorado College over another western school. Or Gonzaga. In hockey, you have to admire Union, St. Lawrence, Clarkson except when they're playing us. Also RPI because Ned came from there.

Root against your safety school because it always reminds you of the slender thread on which, perhaps, you got into Cornell.

OK, it's chic to root against Harvard for being obnoxious preppies, but perhaps some of us, given acceptance letters to both Cornell and Fair Harvard, might have chosen a different path than the one we took.

To sound authentic, when Harvard scores, say, "Well played, fellows." Do not unclench your teeth while speaking.

[Ack]

[Q]ben03 Wrote:

 BU is have one hell of a season![/q]

You think 77 wins and only 2 losses is good?!  psh

[Will]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 You want Harvard to beat Vermont.

a) Root for Ivy over ECACHL, NYS ECACHL over New England ECACHL (not an issue here), ECACHL over Hockey East, East over West.

b) Root against the team that has fewer league losses. We're still expecting Cornell to win both the regular season title and the playoffs, right? Vermont is due to come crashing down at some point, but by then they may enough points to make Cornell's traditional late season charge inadequate, as Colgate did last year and possibly might this year. (Union, Harvard, Colgate, Vermont, and Brown have 12 11 or 10 points to Cornell's 9, but Colgate and Vermont have done it in just six games (as has Cornell) while the others have played 8 or 9.)

Also in general root for good academic school over non-academic school (ie Stanford or Cal in football, hoops), also good no-scholarship academic school over good academic scholarship school.

And root for small school especially with good academics, eg Hopkins in lax over Maryland or Colorado College over another western school. Or Gonzaga. In hockey, you have to admire Union, St. Lawrence, Clarkson except when they're playing us. Also RPI because Ned came from there.

Root against your safety school because it always reminds you of the slender thread on which, perhaps, you got into Cornell.

OK, it's chic to root against Harvard for being obnoxious preppies, but perhaps some of us, given acceptance letters to both Cornell and Fair Harvard, might have chosen a different path than the one we took.

To sound authentic, when Harvard scores, say, "Well played, fellows." Do not unclench your teeth while speaking. [/q]


Or you can just root for whoever you want. :-P

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
You want Harvard to beat Vermont.
 [/q]
And so they did, 3-1, with an ENG.