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Started by a.c. slater, October 06, 2004, 02:52:21 PM

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ninian '72

Precisely.  And it's not clear from seeing a player on crutches exactly what the nature of the injury might be.  Is it a clean break?  Stress fracture?  Sprain?  I don't recall the technical terms for all this, but breaks can spiral, go straight across or lengthwise.  These injuries differ in the amount of time it takes to heal and the amount and duration of PT needed to get back to speed.  (Do we have any orthopedists on the forum who can help out ?)  :-/

I think the athlete's right to privacy trumps everything else here, but even so, without full knowledge of the athlete's case history and the ability to interpret it, it's likely that forum denizens or anyone else is likely to get it wrong, particularly an injury's potential impact on participation.  Although spreading misinformation to our opponents might not be a bad thing, I think it is best just to leave these cases alone and let the Athletic Department let us know what's going on as they see fit.

jeh25

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 Defensive?  No.  But I'm having trouble understanding the issue at hand.  Again, I can totally understand why non-obvious injuries like Vesce's all of last year should not be disclosed because he tried to play through it.  An injury as obvious as Bitz's when not in season is harmless.[/q]

Ari, did you ride the short bus today?

The issue isn't hurting the team. The issue is privacy.

"Harmless" or not, it isn't your call.

A student athlete has the right to medical privacy.

End of story.

Cornell '98 '00; Yale 01-03; UConn 03-07; Brown 07-09; Penn State faculty 09-
Work is no longer an excuse to live near an ECACHL team... :(

Facetimer

Wow, you guys are all so stupid.

John Hayes is a douchebag, he admits it -- he says he's a republican.   And although I don't like Ari because he cut in line last year and is now Cowbell guy, he is right.  Everyone needs to loosen up.

This is not a privacy issue, because last I checked, nobody posted his medical records on this forum.  Neither his doctor or a representative from Cornell disclosed his medical condition.  Nobody violated HIPAA laws or the Family Education Rights and Privacy Act.  Plus, the hockey players are quasi-famous public figured on campus, especially to all you facetimers out there.  This is a sport were injuries should be made public, especially to the fans that spend good money to see the games.  If Bitz is offended, then he is a vagina.

Also, you guys have this crazy idea that anyone remotely related to the ECAC or NCAA frequents this website.  They must be a really good advance scout relying on posts at eLF.

And John Hayes, saying end of story doesn't make you right.  Nice try.
I'm the one who views hockey games merely as something to do before going to Rulloff's and Dino's.

Ack

"hey morris, mr. belding called..."

A-19

ahhh, mike, at least somebody remembers that. i thought that was one of our shining and underrated moments of the year

coopercan

he actually broke his heel not an ankle.

Jim Hyla

[Q]Facetimer Wrote:



Everyone needs to loosen up.

This is not a privacy issue, because last I checked, nobody posted his medical records on this forum.  Neither his doctor or a representative from Cornell disclosed his medical condition.  Nobody violated HIPAA laws or the Family Education Rights and Privacy Act.  Plus, the hockey players are quasi-famous public figured on campus, especially to all you facetimers out there.  

Also, you guys have this crazy idea that anyone remotely related to the ECAC or NCAA frequents this website.  They must be a really good advance scout relying on posts at eLF.

And John Hayes, saying end of story doesn't make you right.  Nice try.[/q]Well, at least for this part, as hard as it might be to say it, I agree. As far as I can see, nothing that I've seen on this forum has anything to do with privacy. It's certainly not a HIPPA issue and talking about a "public person" and what you saw is hardly a legal issue. (Yes, I know, I'm not a lawyer.) Also, do any of you really think anyone else but us, really cares about what we say? Yes, I also know about those past "famous" incidents, but "the exception proves the rule".[Q]This is a sport were injuries should be made public, especially to the fans that spend good money to see the games. [/Q]Now, as far as this goes, "forgetaboutit". Doing that would definately violate HIPPA, and do we really need to know that badly? I hope we all have much more important things to do than staying up all night worrying and speculating.:-)
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jerseygirl

I say, keep the injury posts coming.  I like to watch the pissing matches that transpire when people trip over each other with "inside" information.  However, I think we should devote a section to the more gossipy stuff like injury speculation.  How much more fun would this be in a New York Post (coughNewsCorpisfascistcough) Page Six "Just Asking" format?

Example:

Just Asking...
WHICH highly touted sophomore athlete was spotted trying to cross the Ag quad on crutches?  He seemed to have bits and pieces of lingering pain.  

Get it?  "Bits" and pieces?  That way it's a fun guessing game, instead of a crappy ethics argument.  Of course there's no telling what kind of heartbreak will ensue when someone eschews this format to beat the more creative minds to the forum with info.  SO STICK TO THE FORMAT, PEOPLE!






atb9

I think it would be even more fun to infiltrate other campuses, stalk the opposition, and then let the guessing begin!  :-P   I call Colgate!
24 is the devil

Will

[Q]atb9 Wrote:

 I think it would be even more fun to infiltrate other campuses, stalk the opposition, and then let the guessing begin!     I call Colgate![/q]

Hey, no fair, you actually get a place to stay for free in the Albany area; you should get RPI or Union. :-P
Is next year here yet?

Greg Berge

Just Asking...

IS THERE a nomination for funniest post of the off-season?  Understand we're not taking sides, here.  But this poster has certainly tried her best, with some pointed and timely commentary.

Get it?  "Understand" "her" "point"?